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    Strength Standards

    Do you guys feel the advanced strength standards are reasonable?

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    I dont considered myself strong at all and i'm in the advanced category, almost elite in the press.
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    upper- Intermediate
    lower- Beginner

    brb milk and some deadlifts
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    Originally Posted by johnsonb90436 View Post
    upper- Intermediate
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    brb milk and some deadlifts
    Almost the exact opposite for me.
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    Originally Posted by fatdaddy67 View Post
    Do you guys feel the advanced strength standards are reasonable?

    http://www.muscleandbrawn.com/streng...dards-men.html
    I think that's geared towards a general athlete or lifter, not people who train for strength. I personally, I'm in between advanced and elite for OHP/BP/Squat/Deadlift and I don't consider myself strong let alone elite. I'd day say what they're calling advanced I'd start intermediate, and elite is way off their scale.
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    lol @532 being an elite 220 squat.
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    Originally Posted by Big Sexy J View Post
    lol @532 being an elite 220 squat.
    Lol @ it being so easy still people a) can't do it in any circumstance or b) wrap up, belt up, suit up to lift the weight in 99 % of the cases.
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    Originally Posted by squinky View Post
    lol @ it being so easy still people a) can't do it in any circumstance or b) wrap up, belt up, suit up to lift the weight in 99 % of the cases.
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    Originally Posted by Squinky View Post
    Lol @ it being so easy still people a) can't do it in any circumstance or b) wrap up, belt up, suit up to lift the weight in 99 % of the cases.
    99% of people who squat 530 Need a belt/wraps/and suit????
    The fu@k is wrong with you?
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    Originally Posted by IAmBatman View Post
    99% of people who squat 530 Need a belt/wraps/and suit????
    The fu@k is wrong with you?
    Maybe a slight exaggeration, but only slight.
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    i assume these numbers are 1rm ?
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    lol.... I hope you can do that half bodyweight is pretty low... Maybe with OHP but even then thats not all that much!
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    Originally Posted by RP41 View Post
    better system

    can bench half your bodyweight for 3 sets of 10 for 3 times a week, good

    can't do it, bad
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    lol.... I hope you can do that half bodyweight is pretty low... Maybe with OHP but even then thats not all that much!
    get that weak sauce out of here. A man should be able to do 75% of his bw on the OH Press or more, and i stress more.
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    Originally Posted by johnsonb90436 View Post
    i assume these numbers are 1rm ?
    yes
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    I have an overhead press that contends with advanced lifters 320+... I know overhead pressing is tougher than bench pressing, but wow.
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    lol LOW standards, I agree with the dude that said he thought it was geared towards a general athlete, NOT a powerlifter. If it was towards a general athlete I think it is legit.

    I am in between advanced and Elite and I am NOT anywhere near ELITE.
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    I am an advanced man, so...no. Not a good system.
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    Originally Posted by SHOWTIME View Post
    lol LOW standards, I agree with the dude that said he thought it was geared towards a general athlete, NOT a powerlifter. If it was towards a general athlete I think it is legit.

    I am in between advanced and Elite and I am NOT anywhere near ELITE.
    To put things into perspective. If one could hit those elite numbers, one could, in many places, possibly represent his country in weightlifting at the olympics with that kind of strength base. Taking into consideration he knows how to do the lifts of course. Just saying. Those numbers are far from laughable.
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    These also appear on exrx and were designed by Lon Kilgore I believe. I think the elite standards are a bit low.
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    These are fair

    I'm intermediate on all these lifts, almost advanced. I think these are general standards, if you're a powerlifter or Olympic lifter you are already elite in your strength.
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    i assume these numbers are 1rm ?
    That's what I assumed.
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    these standards are great. i feel so strong! so advanced!
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    I agree with most here. For a non strength-athlete, these are great. But for those of us whose goal is to increase these specific lifts, not so good. Anyone know if the overhead press is a strict/military press or a push-press?
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    Originally Posted by SetYourGoals View Post
    these standards are great. i feel so strong! so advanced!
    this.
    my OHP is teh 1337 mang.
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    I think it's based on the stats printed in Practical Programming, which was never intended to be used for powerlifters or other strength athletes but rather for other athletes who have to play their sport as well as occasionally lift some weights.
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    OHP- Intermediate-Advanced
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    wow im not even 16 yet. This might be HS strength standards???
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    Thing is, all these standard are meant for people who haven't been doing too much specialized training.

    For instance, take my Deadlift (4 plates). Now, I don't consider my Deadlift anywhere near advanced; however, if I saw a newbie who hasn't done Deadlifts that much walk into the gym and rip 405lbs off the floor, I would say his musculature is pretty darn advanced.
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    Originally Posted by DanielBeauchamp View Post
    Thing is, all these standard are meant for people who haven't been doing too much specialized training.

    For instance, take my Deadlift (4 plates). Now, I don't consider my Deadlift anywhere near advanced; however, if I saw a newbie who hasn't done Deadlifts that much walk into the gym and rip 405lbs off the floor, I would say his musculature is pretty darn advanced.
    There are also sports that arent 100% focused on getting maxes up.

    I mean really, stock car drivers lift weights but they dont run smolov to win the Daytona.
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    Originally Posted by jdude94 View Post
    There are also sports that arent 100% focused on getting maxes up.

    I mean really, stock car drivers lift weights but they dont run smolov to win the Daytona.
    Yes, but the numbers on a barbell are only an indication of strength; a bigger rock being lifted is also an indicator of greater strength. Everything involving lifting focuses on progression; even if it's not measured in pounds or kilograms.
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