NEW DAA!? Nutrex T-UP Black.

[Helpandy!]

New test booster featuring DAA.

Interesting... Nutrex jumping on the DAA bandwagon pretty quick.

(This product is part of the whole "underground" side of their company with Zack Khan on the advertisements.)

Hmm....

Nutrex T-UP Black

150 Black Liqui-Caps
Serving Size: 5 Black Liqui-Caps
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

The Ultimate Underground Testosterone Boosting Complex 3127mg *
Sodium D-Aspartic Acid *
Massularia Acuminata *
Vitamin B6 100%
Folic Acid 100%
Vitamin B12 100%
*Daily Value not established


Discuss...

[nni]

daa raises test levels 33% if i am correct. the argument exists that at what level do test levels need to be raised to see effect, im thinking 33% isnt going to be that level.

[manofmany]

daa raises test levels 33% if i am correct. the argument exists that at what level do test levels need to be raised to see effect, im thinking 33% isnt going to be that level.

Not even close.

[Synapsin]

Not to mention you need 3g a day and that prop blend is barely 3 g itself...

[factotum]

daa raises test levels 33% if i am correct. the argument exists that at what level do test levels need to be raised to see effect, im thinking 33% isnt going to be that level.

33% raise in LH and 42% raise in test.

What I don't understand is the paranoia surrounding ingesting mg amounts of aspartame and possible NMDA receptor agonism. Yet consuming multi-gram doses of a possible excitotoxin is no cause for concern because it has the benefit of raising test levels.

[em-dubya]

Not to mention you need 3g a day and that prop blend is barely 3 g itself...

This^^^^^^

[em-dubya]

daa raises test levels 33% if i am correct. .

Where did you get that # NNI?

[THEHUGE]

daa raises test levels 33% if i am correct. the argument exists that at what level do test levels need to be raised to see effect, im thinking 33% isnt going to be that level.

42% actually and in just 12 days. It slowly builds up in your system so higher #'s can be reasonably expected with a longer supplementation.

What I don't understand is the paranoia surrounding ingesting mg amounts of aspartame and possible NMDA receptor agonism. Yet consuming multi-gram doses of a possible excitotoxin is no cause for concern because it has the benefit of raising test levels.

DAA has been extensively used for a while in the clinical setting in EU with no neurotoxicity reported.

[Helpandy!]

[QUOTE=THEHUGE;526667193]42% actually and in just 12 days. It slowly builds up in your system so higher #'s can be reasonably expected with a longer supplementation.[QUOTE]

Good God that's an impressive stat.

Why didn't we (the supplement industry & consumers) know about the effectiveness of
D-Aspartic Acid years ago?

[Brothylated]

New test booster featuring DAA.

Interesting... Nutrex jumping on the DAA bandwagon pretty quick.

(This product is part of the whole "underground" side of their company with Zack Khan on the advertisements.)

Hmm....

Nutrex T-UP Black

150 Black Liqui-Caps
Serving Size: 5 Black Liqui-Caps
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value

The Ultimate Underground Testosterone Boosting Complex 3127mg *
Sodium D-Aspartic Acid *
Massularia Acuminata *
Vitamin B6 100%
Folic Acid 100%
Vitamin B12 100%
*Daily Value not established


Discuss...

Isn't that pink magic's primary ingredient?

Edit: Just looked it up and it is. Weren't they saying that it was rare as fck, even though it was obviously a lie? inb4shietstorm

[TMac26]

[QUOTE=Helpandy!;526747323][QUOTE=THEHUGE;526667193]42% actually and in just 12 days. It slowly builds up in your system so higher #'s can be reasonably expected with a longer supplementation.

Good God that's an impressive stat.

Why didn't we (the supplement industry & consumers) know about the effectiveness of
D-Aspartic Acid years ago?

Because years ago things like 1-AD were still legal. So therefore the industry had no reason to seek out new test boosting agents.

[nni]

there is nothing to suggest a continuous rise can be expected. its completely a guess, and a ceiling can easily exist for this compound.

[Mikehapsner]

there is nothing to suggest a continuous rise can be expected. its completely a guess, and a ceiling can easily exist for this compound.

A ceiling is guaranteed with any substance, this should be of no surprise to anyone. However, without actual studies comparing increased doses when compared to 3g/day it's just one persons word against another.

[THEHUGE]

Good God that's an impressive stat.

Why didn't we (the supplement industry & consumers) know about the effectiveness of
D-Aspartic Acid years ago?

We did, but we had no human data.

there is nothing to suggest a continuous rise can be expected. its completely a guess, and a ceiling can easily exist for this compound.

I didn't mean an indefinite rise.

[quank]

Isn't that pink magic's primary ingredient?

Edit: Just looked it up and it is. Weren't they saying that it was rare as fck, even though it was obviously a lie? inb4shietstorm

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?p=500137681

[Bring_The_Pain]

DAA must be cheap to source since it seems its popping up in everything now.

[RatherBeLifting]

there is nothing to suggest a continuous rise can be expected. its completely a guess, and a ceiling can easily exist for this compound.

I have never understood why everybody thinks that test levels are going to continue rising further the longer you take DAA. As far as I have seen there is nothing that shows that is going to happen. 33% may very well be as high as DAA is going to raise test no matter how much or how long your take it.

[RatherBeLifting]

DAA must be cheap to source since it seems its popping up in everything now.

Doesn't mean that it's cheap, just that there is a growing market for the substance.

[THEHUGE]

I have never understood why everybody thinks that test levels are going to continue rising further the longer you take DAA. As far as I have seen there is nothing that shows that is going to happen. 33% may very well be as high as DAA is going to raise test no matter how much or how long your take it.

It was 42%, not 33%. Also 12 days are nothing. I got a +50% increase after 4 weeks of Dadavit supplementation last year.