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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you just wrote there. I think it's a oxymoron? What do you mean "beating Ronnie"? I dun get it.
    Bro, you said that top 6 of 2009 beats top 6 of the 90's. Logically it means that the 1st from 2009, Jay, beats all of them. Ok. Then the 2nd from 2009, Branch, beats all the others from the 90's or not?
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    Bro, you said that top 6 of 2009 beats top 6 of the 90's. Logically it means that the 1st from 2009, Jay, beats all of them. Ok. Then the 2nd from 2009, Branch, beats all the others from the 90's or not?
    He means the general lineup, the overall standard of the top 6, has improved, he never said that all of the top 6 of 2009 beats all of top 6 of the 90s and obviously isn't saying anyone beats Ronnie.
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    He means the general lineup, the overall standard of the top 6, has improved, he never said that all of the top 6 of 2009 beats all of top 6 of the 90s and obviously isn't saying anyone beats Ronnie.
    True, but it should be an order for them there. Funny thing is that Jay is basically a 90's bber too. He just spended his late 20's and early 30's trying to beat Ronnie. Dex is an old boy too
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    True, but it should be an order for them there.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    Bro, you said that top 6 of 2009 beats top 6 of the 90's. Logically it means that the 1st from 2009, Jay, beats all of them. Ok. Then the 2nd from 2009, Branch, beats all the others from the 90's or not?
    Funny how when you point out the logic in the statement that todays pros beat the pros of the 90's and then you start breaking it down one by one and the noobs start defending themselves by saying what I never said that?
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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you just wrote there. I think it's a oxymoron? What do you mean "beating Ronnie"? I dun get it.
    You said the the pros of today would beat the 90's so if Branch warren got 2nd place that means he would beat every pro in the lineup in the past except for Ronnie and Dorian. This is what it means.
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    He means the general lineup, the overall standard of the top 6, has improved, he never said that all of the top 6 of 2009 beats all of top 6 of the 90s and obviously isn't saying anyone beats Ronnie.
    The general lineup? Branch warren is the number 2 guy today. He said the top 6 today beats the top 6 of yesterday.
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    The general lineup? Branch warren is the number 2 guy today. He said the top 6 today beats the top 6 of yesterday.
    Yeah, as in the overall quality of the top 6.

    What he said was today > 90s, which refers to the overall state of things. Its obvious he's not just talking about the top 1 or two guys - he says himself Ronnie isn't touched by anyone.
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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you just wrote there. I think it's a oxymoron? What do you mean "beating Ronnie"? I dun get it.
    Then break it down. Branch got 2nd at the 0 and you said the pros today beat the pros in the past.

    now:jay,branch,kai,phil,dexter,kevin

    then: Ronnie beats everyone there. Flex beats everyone there except for maybe jay.Chris Cormier same thing. Branch woudn't even make the top 6 then since everyone was on point in their conditioning. The rest is pretty obvious. The pic you posted clearly shows todays pros outmatched by symmetry,size, and conditioning.
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    Yeah, as in the overall quality of the top 6.

    What he said was today > 90s, which refers to the overall state of things. Its obvious he's not just talking about the top 1 or two guys - he says himself Ronnie isn't touched by anyone.
    So where does the number 2 guy stand then?
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    Funny how when you point out the logic in the statement that todays pros beat the pros of the 90's and then you start breaking it down one by one and the noobs start defending themselves by saying what I never said that?
    Logic gives me sometimes headaches too
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    So where does the number 2 guy stand?
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    Originally Posted by Duckenheimer View Post
    Dunno.
    If even the number 2 guy today dosen't beat the top 5 of yesterday or we are in doubt of that even though he made the statement of today's top 6 with the pics posted is better than the 1990's than that statement makes no sense.
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    The entire point of that discussion is that if the 90s bbers were to compete today, the Olympia placings would change drastically...it could end up being something like

    1. Jay Cutler
    2. Kai Greene
    3. Flex Wheeler
    4. Chris Cormier
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    6. Nasser El-Sonbaty

    (that would only happen if Phils mysterious last-minute illness came back again though)
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    Originally Posted by BaGeL23 View Post
    The entire point of that discussion is that if the 90s bbers were to compete today, the Olympia placings would change drastically...it could end up being something like

    1. Jay Cutler
    2. Kai Greene
    3. Flex Wheeler
    4. Chris Cormier
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    (that would only happen if Phils mysterious last-minute illness came back again though)
    Where is Ronnie?
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    Where is Ronnie?
    im hoping he choose to leave him out because everyone knows he's a dead cert for top spot.
    benevolent vaginal showers? Wow such a wordsmith. That can def happen. I do NOT want the Sahara Desert.
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    Originally Posted by asbrus View Post
    If even the number 2 guy today dosen't beat the top 5 of yesterday or we are in doubt of that even though he made the statement of today's top 6 with the pics posted is better than the 1990's than that statement makes no sense.
    It makes sense if he thinks 3-6 are better. Ask him yourself.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    The 90's really had the most genetically gifted bodies in the history. Here is the top 6 from 1999, put them and the other top pros from that decade in today's contests and the placings would change pretty much.

    I don't think it's fair to use Ronnie in that line-up as he was only one of the elite for two years. He falls into to early 2000s if you ask me.

    Also, even if you remove Ronnie, I think that line-up might still be better than it is today, HOWEVER, I think the line-up at the 2010 Mr. Olympia will outshine the 90s. Unfortunately, 3 of the top 6 from last year were off. Had they come in shape, I think they would have been better than the 90s line-up you posted.
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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    I don't think it's fair to use Ronnie in that line-up as he was only one of the elite for two years. He falls into to early 2000s if you ask me.

    Also, even if you remove Ronnie, I think that line-up might still be better than it is today, HOWEVER, I think the line-up at the 2010 Mr. Olympia will outshine the 90s. Unfortunately, 3 of the top 6 from last year were off. Had they come in shape, I think they would have been better than the 90s line-up you posted.
    Somewhat agree with the first part since most of his wins were 2000 and later, but most people say his peak years were 1998 and 1999. I agree with the second part, if everyone from this years expected top 6 came in at their best they would beat the top 6 of the 90s.
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    Originally Posted by spamy View Post
    The 90's really had the most genetically gifted bodies in the history. Here is the top 6 from 1999, put them and the other top pros from that decade in today's contests and the placings would change pretty much.

    Just noticed the 2 foot 10" woman next to Flex's leg
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    Somewhat agree with the first part since most of his wins were 2000 and later, but most people say his peak years were 1998 and 1999.
    I guess that depends on how heavily you weigh a wider waist compared to much more mass. I think his peak was 2003. In the above line-up, he actually appears top heavy. His legs, for whatever reason, took a bit longer to catch up with his upper body. In 03, his legs were cartoonish, but his waist was also a bit bigger.
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    does anyone else think that Cris Cormier had the potential to be the GOAT?

    and for what reason he didn't?
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    Originally Posted by vve View Post
    does anyone else think that Cris Cormier had the potential to be the GOAT?

    and for what reason he didn't?
    Victor Martinez kicked the sh*t out of him!
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    Originally Posted by vve View Post
    does anyone else think that Cris Cormier had the potential to be the GOAT?

    and for what reason he didn't?
    Maybe... He is my favourite physique.

    Maybe drugs/slacking off (just rumours though...)
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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    Victor Martinez kicked the sh*t out of him!
    Cris was already out of the shape when dis happened)
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    Originally Posted by OtisBDriftwood View Post
    THat's the thing, Levrone could hang with much bigger guys while maintaining that Classic look, while still packing on alot of mass and thickness specially from the front.
    This Kevin has the best body of all time imo classic but massive
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    Originally Posted by OtisBDriftwood View Post
    Hands Clasped Most Muscular - Can go either way

    Abs & tights - Kevin

    Front Lat Spread - Kevin

    Front Double Biceps - Phil

    Side-Chest - Kevin

    Side-Triceps - Phil

    Rear Double Biceps - Phil

    Rear Lat Spread - Phil

    so no, Kevin does not win the other 6 poses.. Lay off the fanboyism..
    Kevin wins front double so
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