Ok so ive been working out for 4 years and the last two i have really devoted my lifestyle to body building. I make sure I eat right and try to get 4000 calories a day. I have done intense research and have experimented to find which workouts suit me the best. I even take all kinds of supp like Jack3d, ZMA, Tribulus, Creatine, an estrogen reducer, and a good multi and I am not seeing great results.
So i have decided that im going to try out a prohormone. A friend of mine is told me about a product he used from complete nutrition called 5 Deca Zol, and he said it worked wonders for him with little side effects. He gained about ten pounds and kept it without PCT. I have done reasearch on this product and found out that its basically superdrol and halodrol together. I know both of these are methalated and can cause harm for your liver but i plan on having liver support and a SERM on hand when i do it. I will also do PCT.
Does anyone have any problems with me using this product. Any comments would help
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Thread: Using prohormones(5 Deca zol)
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07-29-2010, 10:28 AM #1
Using prohormones(5 Deca zol)
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07-29-2010, 10:32 AM #2
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07-29-2010, 10:34 AM #3
i would not stack SD and HD in one go. no wonder he gets results but i'd hate to see his cholesterol, plus remember some people are lucky when it comes to shutdown/rebound
i think try Hdrol 1st especially since its one of the best PHs out there.
People shouldnt run SD for more than 3-4 weeks, but with HD you can go for 6 weeks max which gives you more time to consolidate your gains and take advantage of time on cycle, especially as its your 1st.
in summary: 5 deca zol is a bad bad idea, in general and for you.** I rep back **
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07-29-2010, 10:34 AM #4
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07-29-2010, 10:35 AM #5
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07-29-2010, 10:44 AM #6
My buddy ran this product for 3 weeks with no kind of support which even i know is dumb. Though the product does come with a bull s*** PCT which consist of 6-Oxo and a little tribulus. I know this will not do the job and would like to get Nolvadex but other than buying it from a non-reliable source online i dnt know how to get it. Is there a good over the counter drug anyone can recomend
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07-29-2010, 10:49 AM #7
6oxo wouldnt do poop for a cycle of SD. as would trib.
no otc would suffice for deca zol. stay away from this product. from my googling it looks like its
2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol =15mg
^ superdrol
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol =12.5mg
^ halodrol
so at 2/day the SD is at max ideal dose and the hdrol is still very low. people usually run hdrol at 50 then up to 75 not 25.
and SD as a steroid is hard on your system.
as a 1st PH, try straight up hdrol or epistane. keep the cycles short.
if you have to go OTC then keep an easy going prohormone eg epi. 4 week cycle of 30/day, and then use a pct of reversitol + bioforge.
just becaus your mate says hes ok, he might not be on the inside and you may not react so well either.
and always run cycle support. NAC or an all in one product are popular** I rep back **
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07-29-2010, 10:54 AM #8
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07-29-2010, 10:54 AM #9
Thanks for the imput man. One last question i had was do i have to worry about gyno(bitch tits) if i run this or another prohormone. I say this because i have a little bit of puffiness in my nipples from when I went through puberty and I dont know if i would be more apt to get it. Also if u think i would what we be good to run to ensure gyno does not arise
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07-29-2010, 11:16 AM #10
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07-29-2010, 11:33 AM #11
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07-29-2010, 11:36 AM #12
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07-29-2010, 11:48 AM #13
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07-29-2010, 11:49 AM #14
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Yeah, that's too young bro. We have some young guys in the gym taking it and they have had some sides.
I've taken it myself, but am experienced (47yo). I can tell you that it's the bomb tho. I only took half dosages (1 per day) and it worked great.
5deca-zol, cyclo-bolan, pro-stanivar are all the same forumlation (halodrol and superdrol together). But they are increasingly hard to find.
I would recommed starting out with non-methylated compounds
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07-29-2010, 12:41 PM #15
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07-29-2010, 12:54 PM #16
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07-29-2010, 06:20 PM #17
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07-29-2010, 06:46 PM #18
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07-29-2010, 10:53 PM #19
EAT MORE FOOD!
Think about this: If you're not EATING enough to make gains now, you still won't be eating enough to make gains while ramming powerful & dangerous drugs into your body.
Read the first three links, then the other two for Teens:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3296321
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07-29-2010, 11:56 PM #20
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07-30-2010, 12:52 AM #21
im thinkin about running a ph cycle myself.I on the other hand am 23 and have been working out for 3 years on and off.im taking my first cycle and ive thought about m drol.
i already have my cycle and pct supplements thought out
i will run m drol and cycle support for 4 weeks and prior to cycle i will pop milk thistle,hawthorne berrys for 2 weeks and during cycle.pct i will continue to do so just be be sure idont experience anything out of the ordinary.For pct i will run either nolvadex xt or arimidex and i heard arimiedex is better because it blocks estrogen more effectively.Along with one of those i will use T Bomb 2 to make sure i get my test levels back up and reason why im gunna use t bomb is because i already ahve a bottle and might as well not waste it.PCT assist will be in the mix as well.
i have all the money set aside for what i will need but i just need to know where i can get a authentic bottle of m drol and no gimmics or scams.I dont want to spend money on sumthing that is fake and work at all.
anybody have any suggestions on what side or where i can my bottle of mdrol.
because i heard phs are "illegal" or banned meaning they pulled all the items of the shelves and are not sold,where would i be able to purchase them ?
im open to any suggestionss and advice.
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07-30-2010, 01:55 AM #22
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07-30-2010, 01:57 AM #23
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07-30-2010, 03:37 AM #24
obviously i meant nolvadex and mispelled.they are both similar in names so thats a mistake anyone can make.but now that i know its "nolvadex" ill make sure to follw through with that rgarding pct.now my GREATEST question is still yet to be answered.
can sum one pm me and let me know a legit place to purchase the m drol.
sumwhere where you can rely on.
please and thank you.
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07-30-2010, 05:50 AM #25
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Complete Nutrition, LMAO. Man if you care about your health you'd stay away from them. I've heard their adds on the radio and their sharks out for your $$$. Gotta remember their also enginering and making their own supplements and god knows what their putting in them. I'd stick with a more reputable company if I were you!
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07-30-2010, 07:22 AM #26
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02-07-2011, 11:21 AM #28
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Oh man I can see why PH's are banned!
The over the counter crap isn't a PCT which ever way you slice it. Neither is liver support during a cycle. Really milk thistle and the ilk to deal with Superdrol?
Superdrol will turn your body into a toxic waste ground and if you value your health then do a proper PCT which will also get your body on track so you can keep some of the gains and continue to grow. Don't do this and you'll lose the gains and have terribly unhealthy insides.
I'm not against PH's or the real stuff but I am against irresponsible folk who are going to destroy their bodies and will only accept this once it's too late and they've got to deal with the aftermath.
The other thing I don't understand is, if you're going to take banned substances why not take the real stuff that is 10x's as cheap, 100x's as good and won't damage your health with responsible use.
I wish everyone the best who takes this stuff and be safe.
Leo
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09-27-2011, 03:18 AM #29
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