Nice thread, srs, no homo
Nelson had a sick physique.
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07-28-2010, 07:36 AM #31
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07-28-2010, 07:54 AM #32
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07-28-2010, 07:54 AM #33
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07-28-2010, 07:59 AM #34
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07-28-2010, 08:01 AM #35
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07-28-2010, 08:02 AM #36
Scott was on gear, this is known, and is in the open.
Park, and Reeves were not, as has been discussed many times. You can choose to believe whatever you want. If you could provide your source to your info that would be helpful.
If your truely interested in facts let me know and I'll put together some more info. Anything is possible, however, at this time my best sources say they were clean.
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07-28-2010, 08:05 AM #37
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07-28-2010, 08:07 AM #38
Here are a few good sites that I use.
http://musclememory.com/
http://classicphysiquebuilder.blogspot.com/
http://www.weightrainer.net/articles.html#Casey_Butt
Dr. Casey Butt on some of the History of BB through the years.
http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/46096-post33.htmlLast edited by glwanabe; 07-28-2010 at 08:14 AM.
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07-28-2010, 08:09 AM #39
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07-28-2010, 08:17 AM #40
I have never understood the reeves obsession...
"Testosterone levels peak during a man's late 20's but decline soon after, decreasing about 1.5 percent per year after age 30. "
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." - Buddha
!!!+052 kcab per lliW
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07-28-2010, 08:19 AM #41
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07-28-2010, 08:23 AM #42
yeah, no
you can tell which ones are natural just from looking at pics... hint: the ones from early 1900's to 1930's
The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1939 was awarded to Professor L. Ruzicka for synthesizing testosterone
look at BBers from before park and reeves time
look at the ones after
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07-28-2010, 08:27 AM #43
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07-28-2010, 08:28 AM #44
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07-28-2010, 08:29 AM #45
Here, read.
http://weightrainer.blogspot.com/200...ybuilding.html
If you search here at BB.com for Casey Butt, you will find a lot of info on various subjects. The man has a bit more education than most.
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07-28-2010, 08:31 AM #46
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07-28-2010, 08:31 AM #47
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07-28-2010, 08:33 AM #48
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07-28-2010, 08:37 AM #49
yes, he also posts on this forum. he talks about the use of testosterone in athletes in this thread.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1669501&page=7
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07-28-2010, 08:37 AM #50
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07-28-2010, 08:40 AM #51
casey explains it in this thread.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1669501&page=7
the west didnt know about the athletic capabilities of testosterone until the mid 50's. first signs of testosterone usage for athletic performance were first used by the russian weight lifting team in the early 50's but the results werent too good and the side effects were quite harsh which is why Ziegler made dianabol in 1959 which was supposed to be "side effect free".
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07-28-2010, 08:41 AM #52
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07-28-2010, 08:43 AM #53
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07-28-2010, 08:43 AM #54
Look, you really think bodybuilders couldn't get their hands on some sweet juice if they wanted to? They isolated testosterone in 1935 or something. I would believe Casey's theory if it wasn't for the fact that 1. every bodybuilder before the 1930s looks natural and 2. every bodybuilder after looks juiced. I'm sure someone will say "oh but training and nutrition improved a lot", yeah, right.
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07-28-2010, 08:44 AM #55
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07-28-2010, 08:46 AM #56
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"testosterone was first approved for prescription as a cancer, wasting and burn treatment in the U.S. in 1950. Before that it was classified as an experimental drug and not available even to physicians. For a bodybuilder to be using testosterone before 1950 he would not only had to have known more about the biochemistry, dosing and potential usage of it than anybody else in the world (including the research scientists working with it), but also have had access to what was then an experimental drug, isolated sporadically in limited amounts for controlled research purposes, and not produced in quantity."
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07-28-2010, 08:46 AM #57
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07-28-2010, 08:48 AM #59
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07-28-2010, 08:49 AM #60
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