I binge drink 1-2x a week, but usually once a week. 13+ shots. Been doing this for 3 years now. (This also means late night mcdonalds runs...)
I'm going to quit drinking to see if alcohol really does influence weight lifting and physique appearance.
I will be slowly bulking. +300 above maintenance.
I'm doing this for curiosity.
I'm still gonna go to parties/clubs/bars and I'll still be social. I'll just be sober while doing it.
Wish me luck misc.
Will report at end of summer.
If anyone wants to join me you're more than welcome :P
07-18-2010, 03:27 PM #1
Does alcohol slow down gains?? I'm gonna find out.
07-18-2010, 03:31 PM #2
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it obviously hurts your gains but i'd rather get drunk a couple times a month then add some more weight to my bench. Depends on your goals.
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I was the same exact way OP (bust my ass 5-6 days a week in the gym but kill it on Fri & Sat with 10+ shots and beers by the case).
About 5 months ago I decide to completely quit drinking (after getting literally thrown out of a casino ) and for the first time in my life I can see my abs.
I thought it would be hard as hell going out and not drinking but it isn't that bad - everyone else is still drunk and crazy and now I can actually remember what the hell happened the night before.
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07-18-2010, 03:46 PM #9
i'll bump thread at the end of august and report back.
07-18-2010, 03:47 PM #10
Alcohol does lower test production which is pretty crucial in building and maintaining muscle.
TBH, I used to be in your exact boat, I would binge drink 3-4 nights out of the week, vodka waters, cuz I thought they were healthy. I would get completely obliterated. I didn't start making good gains untill I got a DUI and gave up drinking for a while, I also became a little bit more serious about training.
But yeah, too much alcohol hinders gains for sure.
07-18-2010, 03:51 PM #11
I'm the leanest and biggest of all my friends and the only time I really monitor my drinking is when I'm cutting. With that said try and make your workout regimen not conflict with your drinking schedule if you do intend to drink. For example I drink Friday/Saturday almost always so I lift Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday. End up being insanely sore if I drink after lifting and tend to feel like **** anyway.
I value my social life over the potential gains I'm losing though but also have no intention of ever being huge or going pro. Alcohol obviously hurts my gains but not enough to cut it out.
07-18-2010, 03:57 PM #12
what im saying is, maybe your body can react differently to the constant ingestion of alcohol. and my body maybe freaks out a lil more. that's why i wanna try it to see what happens.
I eat very clean mon-thursday and workout mon-thursday. then friday,saturday i feel like im destroying all my hard work. my sleep is ruined, i stay up late, i dont eat properly the day of or the day after.
my social life won't go down. i will still go out and party lol
07-18-2010, 04:05 PM #13
Surprisingly no. http://leangains.com/
Alcohol, hormones and training
You've probably heard that alcohol intake lowers testosterone. While this is true, the actual impact has been widely exaggerated. A three-week study that had men and women consume 30-40 g alcohol per day, showed a 6.8% reduction in testosterone for the men and none for the women at the end of the study-period. That's three beers a day for three weeks and a measly 6.8% reduction in testosterone for the men. What kind of an effect would you think a few beers on an evening once or twice a week would have? Hardly any.
For alcohol to significantly lower testosterone, you need to do some serious drinking. ~120 g alcohol, the equivalent of 10 beers, will lower testosterone by 23% for up to 16 hours after the drinking binge. If you drink so goddamn much that you are admitted to the hospital, you get a similar effect with a reduction of about -20%.
A few studies have looked at alcohol consumption in the post-workout period. One study examined the hormonal response to post-workout alcohol consumption using 70-80 g alcohol, equivalent to 6-7 beers. Talk about "optimizing" nutrient timing. Anyway, despite this hefty post-workout drinking binge, no effect on testosterone was found and only a very modest effect on cortisol was noted. The latter is as expected, considering the effect of alcohol on catecholamines. Citing directly from this paper, this quote sums up the scientific findings regarding the effects of alcohol on testosterone:
"Although the majority of studies involving humans show no ethanol effect on serum luteinizing hormone (LH), some data have demonstrated an increase while others have supported a decrease"
Binge drinking @ 120g of alcohol (equal to approx 10 beer) results in a dip of 23% for 16 hrs.
Edit : I do agree with the other guy about getting hammered multiple times/week being bad for gains, but once/week doesn't sound bad.
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07-18-2010, 04:29 PM #15
OP also stated he does 13+ that's well over ten beers that the study showed to lower test 23% for 16 hours. And when you think about it the average male doesn't produce that much testosterone to begin with, we need all that we can get, that's why I think even at 6.8% reduction could be somewhat detrimental.
Gaawd daamn, I'm just thinking about those nasty asss hangovers I used to get, I was worthless the entire day, could not do anything.
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Drinkings overrated. I maybe get drunk once a month now (used to 3-4 times a week). All that happens is I end up feeling ****ty by the end of the night, possibly throw up, make stupid decisions, end up potentially hooking up with a bitch I would never touch sober, and feel crappy about myself the next day because I just consumed a few thousand calories (including the food) of junk. The only upside is I rarely get hungover, but that's hardly a motivator to get drunk.
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