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    Continuous ulcers in my mouth

    I have been getting ulcers lately since my diet change, ranging from my throat, inside lip, gum and tongue. It's been happening for a good month now and its starting to get frustrating.

    I take multi V and Vitamin C aswell as the occasional salt water daily but i can't seem to stop them coming through.

    My cutting diet consists of a 1500 cal day of Cereal, Eggs, Low fat milk and yoghurt, Chicken, Fish, Steak, Veggies, Nuts, natty pb, Whey, Casein.

    Is there anything that is causing this or is my immune system still dodgy from my tonsils being romoved a couple of months ago and a tongue peircing last month?

    Thank you in advance
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    Originally Posted by Bryce965 View Post
    I have been getting ulcers lately since my diet change, ranging from my throat, inside lip, gum and tongue. It's been happening for a good month now and its starting to get frustrating.

    I take multi V and Vitamin C aswell as the occasional salt water daily but i can't seem to stop them coming through.

    My cutting diet consists of a 1500 cal day of Cereal, Eggs, Low fat milk and yoghurt, Chicken, Fish, Steak, Veggies, Nuts, natty pb, Whey, Casein.

    Is there anything that is causing this or is my immune system still dodgy from my tonsils being romoved a couple of months ago and a tongue peircing last month?

    Thank you in advance
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    Originally Posted by JolietKev View Post
    My advice, and the only advice you should take, is go to the doctor.
    Yeah well i have seen two doctors and they both have just said its the diet change and to gargle salt water.
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    Take Lysine pills several times a day. They will be gone by the morning I promise you.
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    Thank you both, ill look into these.
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    Purchased some Lysine tablets today, will check back in a couple of days and let you know
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    Originally Posted by Bryce965 View Post
    I have been getting ulcers lately since my diet change, ranging from my throat, inside lip, gum and tongue. It's been happening for a good month now and its starting to get frustrating.

    I take multi V and Vitamin C aswell as the occasional salt water daily but i can't seem to stop them coming through.

    My cutting diet consists of a 1500 cal day of Cereal, Eggs, Low fat milk and yoghurt, Chicken, Fish, Steak, Veggies, Nuts, natty pb, Whey, Casein.

    Is there anything that is causing this or is my immune system still dodgy from my tonsils being romoved a couple of months ago and a tongue peircing last month?

    Thank you in advance
    Have you changed your toothpaste or mouth products? You say you got a tongue pierced and you probably are using some type of mouth rinse. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in your mouth products can cause ulcers. Go check out your toothpaste or mouthrinse and try a different one without that chemical.

    Let me know if that helps.
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    When I altered my diet once I started breaking out with ulcers in my mouth. Did some research and turned out it was due to vitamin deficiency. I started taking vitB complex and within no time ulcers went away.
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    Originally Posted by qubilist View Post
    Have you changed your toothpaste or mouth products? You say you got a tongue pierced and you probably are using some type of mouth rinse. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in your mouth products can cause ulcers. Go check out your toothpaste or mouthrinse and try a different one without that chemical.

    Let me know if that helps.
    I'm at work at the moment but i will be sure to check both my toothpaste and mouth wash when i get home.

    Thanks for the info!
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    Originally Posted by Bryce965 View Post
    I'm at work at the moment but i will be sure to check both my toothpaste and mouth wash when i get home.

    Thanks for the info!
    Whitening toothpaste does this to me and it suuuuuuucks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome

    when I eat apples or blueberries I can feel my mouth swell up, but I haven't linked this directly to ulcers
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    Originally Posted by qubilist View Post
    Have you changed your toothpaste or mouth products? You say you got a tongue pierced and you probably are using some type of mouth rinse. Sodium Lauryl Sulfate in your mouth products can cause ulcers. Go check out your toothpaste or mouthrinse and try a different one without that chemical.

    Let me know if that helps.
    Turns out my toothpaste has this ingredient. although i have been using that toothpaste for ages :S

    If the lysine tablets don't fight off the ulcers and contain them, i will change out my toothpaste.

    Thanks man
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    if you haven't had the issue with the toothpaste in the past and recently changed your diet...well, probably not the toothpaste then.

    is there something in your diet your are currently ingesting more amounts of? take stock of what you have b/c there might a small component or trace element in the food that is causing these aphthous ulcers(if they painful, elevated, throughout the mouth).

    knew of someone who was very allergic, she could not eat bananas/kiwi's b/c they caused her to have ulcers all over her mouth...turned out, there was a trace element in both that set her allergy off.

    topical care is what you can look for, they make something called debacterol(given my licensed doc) that could help w/ pain...

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    By ulcers do you mean cold sores? I have gotten them before from too much vitamin c.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    By ulcers do you mean cold sores? I have gotten them before from too much vitamin c.
    no, canker sores are another name, completely different from cold sores
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    Originally Posted by BLab5 View Post
    if you haven't had the issue with the toothpaste in the past and recently changed your diet...well, probably not the toothpaste then.

    is there something in your diet your are currently ingesting more amounts of? take stock of what you have b/c there might a small component or trace element in the food that is causing these aphthous ulcers(if they painful, elevated, throughout the mouth).

    Everything in my diet i have eaten previously, although i have had more of certain things than i did previously.

    I eat maybe a dozen almonds a day as a hunger suppressent, this could possibly be causing them, although i doubt it.

    Stuff that i had implemented into my diet in the past few weeks has been:

    Scivation Xtend
    Opti-Men Multi Vitamin
    ON 100% Gold Standard Casein
    No new foods.

    I'll just continue taking Lysine tablets for a couple more days and see what happens
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    Originally Posted by Bryce965 View Post
    I have been getting ulcers lately since my diet change, ranging from my throat, inside lip, gum and tongue. It's been happening for a good month now and its starting to get frustrating.

    I take multi V and Vitamin C aswell as the occasional salt water daily but i can't seem to stop them coming through.

    My cutting diet consists of a 1500 cal day of Cereal, Eggs, Low fat milk and yoghurt, Chicken, Fish, Steak, Veggies, Nuts, natty pb, Whey, Casein.

    Is there anything that is causing this or is my immune system still dodgy from my tonsils being romoved a couple of months ago and a tongue peircing last month?

    Thank you in advance

    I remember a while ago i took these fish oil caps and got 2 bad sores in my mouth, i stopped after like 3 days, i believe it was some kinda poisoning from the caps, right after i stopped the fish oil, sores stopped. Id watch the fish consumption maybe, might be the mercury or something, worth a shot but im rly not sure.
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    Originally Posted by gooseguy312 View Post
    I remember a while ago i took these fish oil caps and got 2 bad sores in my mouth, i stopped after like 3 days, i believe it was some kinda poisoning from the caps, right after i stopped the fish oil, sores stopped. Id watch the fish consumption maybe, might be the mercury or something, worth a shot but im rly not sure.
    Yeah i have cans of John west tuna and Nature's own fish oil pills. hmm, ill just start a rotation of removing certain foods if they continue to irritate me
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    We actually got a question like this when I was interning in a drug information center and it turns out theres some good information to support B12 supplementation like the previous poster said. Haven't heard of using lysine but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt. It can take a while for these supplements to have a significant effect so if it's really bothersome you might want to grab an OTC anesthetic like Orajel for the pain.

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    Originally Posted by hojoseph99 View Post
    We actually got a question like this when I was interning in a drug information center and it turns out theres some good information to support B12 supplementation like the previous poster said. Haven't heard of using lysine but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt. It can take a while for these supplements to have a significant effect so if it's really bothersome you might want to grab an OTC anesthetic like Orajel for the pain.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19124628
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    Originally Posted by Bryce965 View Post
    Yeah i have cans of John west tuna and Nature's own fish oil pills. hmm, ill just start a rotation of removing certain foods if they continue to irritate me
    Ohhh dam it, hahaa dude now i remember.

    Thier are traces of heavy metals and other stuff besides mercury as well in certain fish oil brands, i looked it up and thats what made me stop.

    The poisoning symptoms from this 1 very bad compound in it could actually get worse then mercury poisoning as i remember, if i recall correctly, can i ask if ur getting heat flashes or anything like that? if it is the fish oil, which it probably is, id get off it asap lol, you can read about it too if u want. I dont have any links but just google fish oil toxicity.
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    three things i did that got rid of them

    1) gargle with hydrogen peroxide
    2) lysine pills
    3) Debacterol ( can buy it online or get script)apply to sore, hurts like hell but gets rid of them within a few hours.
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    My husband also has a canker sore problem.....has had it on and off for many years, and he is an MD himself. He has been to the mayo clinic and seen specialists, nothing really works long term, it might help for a bit, but not for the long haul.

    What he has learned is that he can avoid certain products that make him break out more, he still does break out but not as much if he avoids certain products.

    He avoids tooth paste with certain ingredients (dont remember off the top of my head)
    He only uses certain Tom's of Maine toothpastes, certain Sensodyne, Biotene and Weleda Salt Toothpaste.

    Chewing gum makes him breakout.
    Muscle Milk Strawberry flavored protein, or any artificial strawberry makes him breakout.

    He never had canker sores till his mid 20's and has had them since. He has learned what to avoid to control them.
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    its interesting to hear what makes someone breakout cause i could never figure it out. all things to watch. I only knew of supplements and treatments, but couldnt figure out the cause.
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    I had this problem more so when I was in high school....at the time I ate a ton of candy (cinnamon *****, like a pack a day), so I thought it was either the sugar or the cinnamon, and today eating clean I don't get them as much unless I cut my mouth and one will inevitably form. I do think it's somewhat hereditary bc my uncle gets them really bad.
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    Originally Posted by Skimartist35 View Post
    I had this problem more so when I was in high school....at the time I ate a ton of candy (cinnamon *****, like a pack a day), so I thought it was either the sugar or the cinnamon, and today eating clean I don't get them as much unless I cut my mouth and one will inevitably form. I do think it's somewhat hereditary bc my uncle gets them really bad.
    seriously for those that get them and want to hurry them up and go away try Debacterol. Not trying to peddle it, its not cheap but the stuff has worked for me. not sure if can still buy it online or if need a script. definately get the vial not the single use swabs. ok thats all i got, im out of ideas. glad this happens to other people too and im not the only one who cant figure out the cause.
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    I get these all the time, I've been to the docs and dentist to try and sort them, they have said there is nothing you can do, I believe that getting enough sleep is key and stress, but also having enough vitamins in your diet. I use Bongella on mine it just numbs the pain.
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    Originally Posted by Kevaldo09 View Post
    I get these all the time, I've been to the docs and dentist to try and sort them, they have said there is nothing you can do, I believe that getting enough sleep is key and stress, but also having enough vitamins in your diet. I use Bongella on mine it just numbs the pain.

    BONG ella? is that like a potheads nickname in France? I bet it numbs the pain. Sorry too easy. I can be an infant sometimes
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