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    pull up question

    i can't currently do a pull up at the moment and i've been doing negatives.

    just a question, how does doing the negative part of a pull up help with the initial pull?

    people say negatives are the best way to develop strength for the initial pull but i fail to understand how negatives help the pull.
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    You can lift more with a negative than the concentric. You are still targeting the same muscles with the eccentric (given you are actually fighting the descent), which in turn will eventually turn into enough strength to perform a concentric.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    You can lift more with a negative than the concentric. You are still targeting the same muscles with the eccentric (given you are actually fighting the descent), which in turn will eventually turn into enough strength to perform a concentric.
    cheers. would you suggest weighted negatives for faster progress?
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    Originally Posted by H1t_V3r4c View Post
    cheers. would you suggest weighted negatives for faster progress?
    I doubt it will hurt.
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    Negative pull ups are a waste of time and don't work for everyone IMO.

    Just try and do as many reps as you can. Whether it's one or two pull-ups. Do 4 sets of however many reps you can currently do. Stick to that number until you feel you can do 1 more rep for a given set (which would most likely be the first set and so on and so forth as you get stronger). Eventually, you should be able to do 4 sets of 10 reps.

    I would also suggest you doing the pull up exercise everytime you workout as the first exercise.
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    Originally Posted by darklifter View Post
    Negative pull ups are a waste of time and don't work for everyone IMO.

    Just try and do as many reps as you can. Whether it's one or two pull-ups. Do 4 sets of however many you can currently do. Stick to that number until you feel you can 1 more rep for a given set (which would most likely be the first set and so on and so forth as you get stronger). Eventually, you should be able to do 4 sets of 10 reps.

    I would also suggest you doing the pull up exercise everytime you workout as the first exercise.
    Maybe reading the entire initial post (or even the first sentence) would help.

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    i can't currently do a pull up at the moment
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    Originally Posted by darklifter View Post
    Negative pull ups are a waste of time and don't work for everyone IMO.

    Just try and do as many reps as you can. Whether it's one or two pull-ups. Do 4 sets of however many you can currently do. Stick to that number until you feel you can 1 more rep for a given set (which would most likely be the first set and so on and so forth as you get stronger). Eventually, you should be able to do 4 sets of 10 reps.

    I would also suggest you doing the pull up exercise everytime you workout as the first exercise.
    Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I can't do 1 pull up yet. But I will take your info to consideration once I can do 1/2.
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    If slow negatives aren't working for you try the assisted pull up machine. Start with 40 lbs or whatever is comfortable and focus on really good form, then slowly lower the weight. This is how I learned and I progressed very fast.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    I doubt it will hurt.
    Thanks
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Maybe reading the entire initial post (or even the first sentence) would help.

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    Originally Posted by H1t_V3r4c View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I can't do 1 pull up yet. But I will take your info to consideration once I can do 1/2.
    I see. Well in that case, having a spotter to help you achieve the movement wouldn't hurt. I also think that's better than doing negatives.
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    Originally Posted by darklifter View Post
    Say what??
    Your advice. \/\/
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    Just try and do as many reps as you can. Whether it's one or two pull-ups.
    His first sentence. \/\/
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Your advice. \/\/

    His first sentence. \/\/
    The advice still holds valid once he is able to do one or two unassisted pull-ups.
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