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    So You Want To Become a Doctor, Eh?

    We should have a solid thread for all of us Pre meds and current med students to discuss everything from the application process to what classes we are taking to how to study for the MCAT.

    All pre-health students and current health care providers are welcome too!!!

    Enjoy!
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    I do med in australia but similar stuff to MCAT(yes have looked at MCAT smaples)
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    Originally Posted by wildphucker View Post
    I do med in australia but similar stuff to MCAT(yes have looked at MCAT smaples)
    Nice man, whats the schooling system like there?
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    i'm in on this thread. what classes are you guys taking in the fall? i'm taking (2nd year undergrad):
    - biochem
    - genetics
    - organic 2 lab
    - virology
    - survey of human diseases
    - and a bs ancient history class lol

    i think i'm gonna take an MCAT class in the fall or spring and take the actual MCAT shortly after that. any suggestions on which prep course is most helpful?
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    Originally Posted by moosecakes4all View Post
    Nice man, whats the schooling system like there?
    grad med is a bit less stressful. Pass/fail, no grades.


    So you just gotta pass and youre a doctor no matter what actual score you got(of course, you still gotta go through residency and shiz)


    Still as youre aware, they do throw a crazy amount of info at you in a short amount of time
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    Originally Posted by flexbrah View Post
    i'm in on this thread. what classes are you guys taking in the fall? i'm taking (2nd year undergrad):
    - biochem
    - genetics
    - organic 2 lab
    - virology
    - survey of human diseases
    - and a bs ancient history class lol
    vandenberg is a dinosaur and uses an overhead projector still..don't buy the book for virology either its useless..he tests you on the stupid little differences too so focus on those and the class is easy
    biochem and genetics are easy too..if you have merkler for biochem he can be a dick
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    Originally Posted by flexbrah View Post
    i'm in on this thread. what classes are you guys taking in the fall? i'm taking (2nd year undergrad):
    - biochem
    - genetics
    - organic 2 lab
    - virology
    - survey of human diseases
    - and a bs ancient history class lol

    Im taking both semesters of Organic chem and lab right now over the summer. Just finished semester one and got an A in both classes!!!

    Fall semester:

    Cell biology
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    Calculus 2
    Biochemistry
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    Youve got a solid schedule there brah!



    Thats pretty cool how its pass fail over there in Au. What year are you in now?
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    Originally Posted by r0bo View Post
    vandenberg is a dinosaur and uses an overhead projector still..don't buy the book for virology either its useless..he tests you on the stupid little differences too so focus on those and the class is easy
    biochem and genetics are easy too..if you have merkler for biochem he can be a dick
    haha vandenbergh is pretty cool. i have him for microbio right now... he reads straight off his notes but his stories about working in the field is actually really interesting. its the only reason i come to class anymore haha. i think i have some chick for biochem, she's supposed to be borderline retarded... i don't know if thats a good thing or bad lol.
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    Originally Posted by flexbrah View Post
    haha vandenbergh is pretty cool. i have him for microbio right now... he reads straight off his notes but his stories about working in the field is actually really interesting. its the only reason i come to class anymore haha. i think i have some chick for biochem, she's supposed to be borderline retarded... i don't know if thats a good thing or bad lol.
    dr l prob..she is real easy..i had her for biochem 1 and merkler for advanced biochem
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    Originally Posted by moosecakes4all View Post
    Im taking both semesters of Organic chem and lab right now over the summer. Just finished semester one and got an A in both classes!!!

    Fall semester:

    Cell biology
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    Youve got a solid schedule there brah!



    Thats pretty cool how its pass fail over there in Au. What year are you in now?
    ah GJDM! congrats! i don't think i've ever studied as much as i did for organic 1 and 2. i ended up with an A in orgo 1, but orgo 2 i got a B- ... the ACS final absolutely wrecked my grade. my prof didn't prepare us for it very well. for instance: the numbers/values for NMR/mass spec/IR spec that he taught us were different from the actual ACS values. the ones we used were rounded. oh well, at least i'm done with that god forsaken class haha
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    Originally Posted by r0bo View Post
    dr l prob..she is real easy..i had her for biochem 1 and merkler for advanced biochem
    yeah his stores are great..vandenberg is like a fking millionaire and just teaches now for the lulz
    ah good to know. i was hoping my biochem prof wouldn't be too tough, since its a 8am class.
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    Originally Posted by flexbrah View Post
    ah GJDM! congrats! i don't think i've ever studied as much as i did for organic 1 and 2. i ended up with an A in orgo 1, but orgo 2 i got a B- ... the ACS final absolutely wrecked my grade. my prof didn't prepare us for it very well. for instance: the numbers/values for NMR/mass spec/IR spec that he taught us were different from the actual ACS values. the ones we used were rounded. oh well, at least i'm done with that god forsaken class haha
    Ive got to take the ACS final too. Im studying for it already with the ACS study guide booklet.
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    Originally Posted by moosecakes4all View Post
    Ive got to take the ACS final too. Im studying for it already with the ACS study guide booklet.
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    Originally Posted by moosecakes4all View Post
    We should have a solid thread for all of us Pre meds and current med students to discuss everything from the application process to what classes we are taking to how to study for the MCAT.
    Enjoy!
    videos like that are fascinating.

    Even after taking anatomy, I never quite understood exactly how you can tell what is where when you're opening say, an abdominal cavity. Sure you can make out organs and whatnot but if you're looking for something obscure that has the same general pinkish red color soaked in blood how do you know you're cutting out the right thing?

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    Originally Posted by flexbrah View Post
    ah GJDM! congrats! i don't think i've ever studied as much as i did for organic 1 and 2. i ended up with an A in orgo 1, but orgo 2 i got a B- ... the ACS final absolutely wrecked my grade. my prof didn't prepare us for it very well. for instance: the numbers/values for NMR/mass spec/IR spec that he taught us were different from the actual ACS values. the ones we used were rounded. oh well, at least i'm done with that god forsaken class haha
    lulz yeah that test was dumb..i had like 2 questions on nomenclature and spent like half the class on that ****..i do research in fcoe-bitt proteomics lab and gonna be in an epigenetics lab in the fall also, if you want some help getting into a lab or something..premeds tend to not get chosen so if you wanna do research don't tell them you want to go to med school lulz
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    videos like that are fascinating.

    Even after taking anatomy, I never quite understood exactly how you can tell what is where when you're opening say, an abdominal cavity. Sure you can make out organs and whatnot but if you're looking for something obscure that has the same general pinkish red color soaked in blood how do you know you're cutting out the right thing?

    I guess thats why i'm sticking to Pharmacy.
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    I was thinking about becoming a doctor, I'm really good with dissection and stuff, and I got 100% in anatomy. I'm not sure if I still want to be though. :/
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    Originally Posted by Emperador View Post
    I was thinking about becoming a doctor, I'm really good with dissection and stuff, and I got 100% in anatomy. I'm not sure if I still want to be though. :/
    Its a lot of work for sure, but if your passionate about it it will pay off huge in the end.
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    lulz yeah that test was dumb..i had like 2 questions on nomenclature and spent like half the class on that ****..i do research in fcoe-bitt proteomics lab and gonna be in an epigenetics lab in the fall also, if you want some help getting into a lab or something..premeds tend to not get chosen so if you wanna do research don't tell them you want to go to med school lulz
    that's awesome man, how are you liking it? and thanks for the tip!! it's appreciated! i'm gonna try to get into the undergraduate research in the fall also. i'll definitely keep that in mind.
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    Originally Posted by moosecakes4all View Post
    Its a lot of work for sure, but if your passionate about it it will pay off huge in the end.
    Yeah I know, I love helping people and all that good stuff, but I can't really "buckle down" and tell myself it's what I want to do. I mean 12 years of school kinda blows, but the rewards are great. I'm split between being a doctor and being an astronaut.

    On top of that, most of the doctors that I've talked to say they really "overqualify" you for the job. Half the stuff they learned in college they've never used.
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    Originally Posted by Emperador View Post
    Yeah I know, I love helping people and all that good stuff, but I can't really "buckle down" and tell myself it's what I want to do. I mean 12 years of school kinda blows, but the rewards are great. I'm split between being a doctor and being an astronaut.

    On top of that, most of the doctors that I've talked to say they really "overqualify" you for the job. Half the stuff they learned in college they've never used.
    Wouldnt you want that though?


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    Originally Posted by Emperador View Post
    Yeah I know, I love helping people and all that good stuff, but I can't really "buckle down" and tell myself it's what I want to do. I mean 12 years of school kinda blows, but the rewards are great. I'm split between being a doctor and being an astronaut.

    On top of that, most of the doctors that I've talked to say they really "overqualify" you for the job. Half the stuff they learned in college they've never used.
    They do overqualify you for sure. Its to weed out the weak from the strong willed. They dont want those people who are in it for the money alone, they want to people who really want it. If you think about it, the 8 years of college are not that bad. These days more and more high paying jobs require a masters (6 years of college total), and your last 2 med school years are all on the job training essentially.
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    FWIW- I am a current PA (physician assistant) student. I dabbled with the idea of med school for a while but for a number of reasons I chose the PA profession (if you are interested in specifics I can go into it). Feel free to ask me any questions regarding the medical field, PA/med school (I literally take about 25% of my courses with the med students on campus including pharm, some of the systems courses, etc.).

    My background- I graduated undergrad with a cumulative 4.0 and had 5 years of work experience in radiology. I started PA school 3 weeks after I graduated from undergrad and I'm almost done with my first block of courses.

    My experiences in PA school- **** hits the fan quick. PA school is a 2 year masters and we literally cover 2.5 years of med school in a year. I cover the same anatomy/phys topics in 8 weeks that the med students cover in the better part of their first year. Med students in general have a bit more time and are out of class by 12-1 tops each day, but the amount of detailed information you cover is intense. I'm in class from 8-5 daily and study another 6+ hours each night just to still fall behind... there's literally no way to keep up with everything. There's a lot of pump and dump goin on but exams are fair and most in my class are doing extremely well.

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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    FWIW- I am a current PA (physician assistant) student. I dabbled with the idea of med school for a while but for a number of reasons I chose the PA profession (if you are interested in specifics I can go into it). Feel free to ask me any questions regarding the medical field, PA/med school (I literally take about 25% of my courses with the med students on campus including pharm, some of the systems courses, etc.).

    My background- I graduated undergrad with a cumulative 4.0 and had 5 years of work experience in radiology. I started PA school 3 weeks after I graduated from undergrad and I'm almost done with my first block of courses.

    My experiences in PA school- **** hits the fan quick. PA school is a 2 year masters and we literally cover 2.5 years of med school in a year. I cover the same anatomy/phys topics in 8 weeks that the med students cover in the better part of their first year. Med students in general have a bit more time and are out of class by 12-1 tops each day, but the amount of detailed information you cover is intense. I'm in class from 8-5 daily and study another 6+ hours each night just to still fall behind... there's literally no way to keep up with everything. There's a lot of pump and dump goin on but exams are fair and most in my class are doing extremely well.

    Any specific questions let me know, Ill try to check back here regularly.
    Where are you attending college? I found out two days ago that PSU is charging 6.0% more for NO REASON.

    Tuition has more than doubled in the past 10 years....

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    Originally Posted by Emperador View Post
    Where are you attending college? I found out two days ago that PSU is charging 6.0% more for NO REASON.

    Tuition has more than doubled in the past 10 years....

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    I go to Des Moines University-- It's a small private Med school that only offers graduate medical degrees. I was accepted at every school I applied to which included more well known schools like university of wisconsin, etc. but DMU blew me away so it was a no brainer.

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    Originally Posted by Emperador View Post
    Yeah I know, I love helping people and all that good stuff, but I can't really "buckle down" and tell myself it's what I want to do. I mean 12 years of school kinda blows, but the rewards are great. I'm split between being a doctor and being an astronaut.

    On top of that, most of the doctors that I've talked to say they really "overqualify" you for the job. Half the stuff they learned in college they've never used.
    you genuis grade? acing a college anatomy course in high school. impressive. took anatomy this year as a senior but it doesnt compare to the legit **** in college/med school from what iv heard.

    thinking of going pre-med or research as well. Just signed up/am signing up now for classes actually. any tips on labs/classes to be wary of?
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    not trying to be a doctor but a pharmacist. Taking the PCAT in august hopefully ill do good
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    Originally Posted by HoldOn View Post

    thinking of going pre-med or research as well. Just signed up/am signing up now for classes actually. any tips on labs/classes to be wary of?
    Classes are completely dependent on the professor. Undergrad really isn't too complex and the pace is a slow walk in the park compared to grad school so you should be fine. I found labs to be a waste of life and dreaded the weekly lab reports/quizzes/exams....

    Enter undergrad with good study habits form day 1. Take a little time each night to go through everything, and start really studying for an exam 3ish days before the test. My plan in undergrad was to always overstudy for the first exam or 2 until I knew how the professor tested. After that I would slack where I could.
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