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    Should I cut or bulk? *Pictures included

    Should I cut or bulk?

    Should I cut then bulk? or bulk then cut?

    Thanks for any feedback.

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    The last 3 pictures (taken September 2009) was before I started my cut

    Did I lose any fat that is noticeable?

    I was 183LB in September 2009, now I stand at 155LB in July 2010

    To me, it does not seem like I have lost much.
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    doesnt look like you have a TON of muscle mass, so if you cut too low you will just look "skinny"...cut for the rest of this month then clean bulk is what id say...im in a very similar situation as u OP so im going thru the same problems
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    Originally Posted by Football 4 Life View Post
    doesnt look like you have a TON of muscle mass, so if you cut too low you will just look "skinny"...cut for the rest of this month then clean bulk is what id say...
    This ^^

    Also keep the resistance training going while cutting, it will help for when you decide to bulk
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    BULK dude lift between 8 and 10 reps and eat clean protiens and carbs
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    Thanks for the feedback.

    Should I cut first or bulk first?
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    Turn that little fat you have now into gorging muscle power lol Your in the perfect spot to bulk but clean
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    well if you clean bulk then you wont halfta cut as much at the end and wont gain much fat during your bulk
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    What do YOU want to do? Its all about what you want and will make you happy. You could go either way in my opinion. The biggest thing in your situation is what will keep you motivated. Its your body.
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    so my answer is bulk then cut a little of the fat after the bulk but it wont be much fat if you take your time, get your diet in check, and go to gym consistent. Getting ripped is 80% diet
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    The terms, cutting and bulking are extremes. Don't cut, and don't hardcore bulk. Just lift hard, eat plenty, but clean, and you'll achieve what you want. Good luck.
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    You have a flat chest, I'd definitely bulk
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    Originally Posted by knot4reel91 View Post
    The terms, cutting and bulking are extremes. Don't cut, and don't hardcore bulk. Just lift hard, eat plenty, but clean, and you'll achieve what you want. Good luck.
    this!

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    How about my comparison pictures?

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    Originally Posted by pkahnman View Post
    Turn that little fat you have now into gorging muscle power lol Your in the perfect spot to bulk but clean
    Just so we are clear, fat doesn't turn into muscle anymore than lead turns into gold. The excess fat you have on your body has to come off at some point.

    Luckily you are young enough that your testosterone levels should be high and you may be able to lose fat while adding some muscle. At your age you may be able to recomp with decent success.

    What do YOU want to do?

    Have you been lifting heavy at least 3 times per week?
    A diet isn't punishment. A diet is a way to reward your body with the wholesome, nutritious food that it needs. Your body composition is a direct reflection of what you put in your mouth.
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    Definitely BULK. Lift heavy, and consume 1.5 gms of protein per lean lb of muscle mass goal, daily.

    Dig in, work hard, and no cheating or slacking.
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    I would say keep cutting, you still have quite a bit of fat. If you bulk at this stage you will look kinda fat.
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    I vote for CUT, keep the loosing the fat
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    Originally Posted by aesix View Post
    How about my comparison pictures?

    Top 3 are as of July 2010, Bottom 3 are as of September 2009

    I see a very noticeable difference between the current pics and the ones from September.
    Like you said:
    "I was 183LB in September 2009, now I stand at 155LB in July 2010"
    That's almost 30lb you've lost, it's a big difference...
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    cut till you are down to 10%
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    Clean bulk if you can. BB.com here has great meal plans, just have a look. If you gain muscle and keep the same amount of fat you already have, youre bodyfat% will go down and also when youre bigger its much easier to notice muscle when youve lost harldy any fat where as if you kept cutting, you would need to lose a lot more fat and even then as the saying goes "abs on a skinny gguy doesnt count". For me I think about not worrying about the short term goals if it will pay off in the long run. So if youre doing this for girls or confidence, dont worry about fat at the minute, bulk, add muscle, then cut when youre as big as you want to be. You'll be much happier with your results then. And plus, if I was stocky and strong, I'd be much more confident than ripped but super skinny, so think of it like that too. Plus if youre in it for girls like me when I started (no longer the case, I'm just f-ing addicted to it now), a girls not worth it if she only wants youre body.

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    I recommend cutting, its kinda dissappointing to bulk when your still fat.... I.E. clean bulking would probably help... but it still adds fat... its inevitable (well some people are miracles and can do it without, dont ask me how) Nothing is more depressing then getting bigger when your not defined... it seems counterproductive. I think you need to get a bit leaner, then start adding muscle... skinny fat is a lose lose situation.

    Either you get skinnier, and still have no definition because you lack muscle tone.... or you get bigger whilst adding fat because its inevitable on a bulk and your face gets puffy and unaesthetic. IDK but you must choose one way or the other.
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    You're getting a mix of answers because you could probably do either. Cutting vs bulking are less applicable for someone in your position to my mind, because you need to do both. I'd just eat at maintenance for awhile, lift, make noob gains, then in a few months time do a bit of a cut, reassess.
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    Originally Posted by genius1265 View Post
    I recommend cutting, its kinda dissappointing to bulk when your still fat.... I.E. clean bulking would probably help... but it still adds fat... its inevitable (well some people are miracles and can do it without, dont ask me how) Nothing is more depressing then getting bigger when your not defined... it seems counterproductive. I think you need to get a bit leaner, then start adding muscle... skinny fat is a lose lose situation.

    Either you get skinnier, and still have no definition because you lack muscle tone.... or you get bigger whilst adding fat because its inevitable on a bulk and your face gets puffy and unaesthetic. IDK but you must choose one way or the other.
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