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    After six months of Starting Strength and Bill Starr 5x5, I am going to give a program with hypertrophy variables a shot.

    First I am: Age-36, 5’10”, 195. Lift stats are in my signature line below.

    My new program is Growth Stimulus Training (GST). GST is a split style program runs on four week Macrocycles. Each week, I will do four workouts each of which revolve around a compound lift.

    My compounds will be: Press- Bench, Push- Squat, Lift-Deadlift, Pull- Chinups. Each workout also employs two supplemental lifts. Each week uses a different rep scheme. Week 1 uses an 8 rep scheme with 65% of 1RM. Week 2 gets to 6 reps for 75%. Week 4 uses 2+reps for 90-95% of 1RM. In addition each workout schedules a final set (of 3 total sets) as an AS MANY REPS AS POSSIBLE (AMRAP).

    This setup is way out the ordinary strength-based program that I am familiar with. I am going to commit to GST in order to harden up, build muscle, and work on muscle endurance.

    GST http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121353501
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    1-1 Press

    GST Macrocycle 1 - Microcycle 1 Press

    Explosive Primers interlaced with warmup and work sets

    Core Lift - Bench Press
    Warmup
    8x45
    8x95
    3x135
    Worksets
    8x170
    8x170
    16x170 AMRAP

    Supplemental Lift #1 - Incline Bench
    Warmup
    8x45
    Worksets
    10x95
    10x95
    10x95

    Supplemental Lift #2 - Dips
    10xBW
    10xBW
    7xBW Did 10, but cant in good faith count the final three

    Abs - Decline Situps
    10xBW+35
    10xBW+35
    10xBW+35


    Notes - Way out of the ordinary from my normal strength-based routines. First, I dont feel like death afterwards. Yet, this was way more demanding than it looked on paper. Tris were fried after the first set of dips.
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    GST Macrocycle 1 - Microcycle 1 Push

    5 minute walk with dynamic warmup movements

    Explosive Primers interlaced throughout warmups and worksets

    Core Lift - Low Bar Squat
    Warmup
    8x45
    5x95
    5x135
    3x160
    3x185
    Worksets
    8x225
    8x225
    15x225 AMRAP

    Supplemental Lift #1 - Front Squat
    Warmup
    5x45
    Worksets
    10x95
    10x95
    10x95

    Supplemental Lift #2 - Stationary Lunges
    10xBW+40
    10xBW+40
    10xBW+40

    10 per leg on each set with 20# dbs in each hand

    Notes - Holy god! My body is really geared towards low rep squat sets. This was a challenge to say the least. Also, cutting back on milk a tad to cut a few calories. Trying to cut back from 8-10 cups per day to 4-5 cups. That represents about 500 calories.
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    subbed- have fun with GST!

    show us your plan?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
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    Always good to have your feedback. Welcome aboard......again!

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    subbed- have fun with GST!

    show us your plan?
    Will do soon, but right now I am off to purchase a lat machine and 180# of weight from a craigslist ad for........$50 whole dollars.
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    Dam I was beaten to 1st! Very well done on your amazing 1rms and theh best of luck with your new plan. Looks very interesting
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    Lets tear this up FatsCat!
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    Originally Posted by SionX View Post
    Dam I was beaten to 1st! Very well done on your amazing 1rms and theh best of luck with your new plan. Looks very interesting
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    Lets tear this up FatsCat!
    Thanks guys. I know that this is way different than previous. I'll try and give as much feedback/critique as possible since it is likely that each of you will get to a split sometime in the future. What I like about the setup is the compound lifts that are emphasized.

    Also - I am sore as hell from yesterdays Squats.
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    Originally Posted by K-Krakrz View Post
    show us your plan?
    Core Press - Bench Press
    Supp #1 - Dips
    Supp #2 - Incline

    Core Push - Low Bar Squat
    Supp #1 - Front Squats
    Supp #2 - GHR/Hypers

    Core Pull - Chins
    Supp #1 - Self Supported Dumbell Rows
    Supp #2 - Underhand Barbell Rows

    Core Lift - Deadlift
    Supp #1 - Strait Leg Deadlift (Romanian)
    Supp #2 - Hack Squat *This is actually to support Push movements

    Abs - 3x/week


    The above is also my order of workouts.

    As far as weights, in Week 1 I will use 65% of 1RM. In Week 4 I will be at 90% of 1RM for sets of AMRAP-3-3. That will equate to Bench@235, Squat@315, Chins-AMRAP, and Deads@370. A little leary of the deads and trying to crank out reps. Goes against what I have done with keeping deads in low rep ranges to protect yourself. Besides, I am not sure I could crank out more than three at 370. That may be a telling point early on in the program.
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    1-1 Pull

    GST Macrocycle 1 - Microcycle 1 Pull

    Light Lat Pulldowns interlaced throughout warmups and worksets

    Core Lift - Chins/Reverse Chins
    8/0@BW
    6/2@BW
    4/4@BW

    The aim here was eight, but I had never done eight chins or pullups before, so my plan was to go to failure and then do reverse chins to make up the difference. This would give anyone great incentive to get their scheduled chins since reverses, when done with effort, are damn challenging.

    Supplemental Lift #1 - Flat Bench Dumbbell Rows
    10x35
    10x35
    10x35

    Ten with each arm per set.

    Supplemental Lift #2 - Underhand Bent Rows
    10x75
    10x85
    10x90

    No idea what I could do here. The 90 ended up being a good final set.

    Supplemental Lift #3 - Barbell Curls
    8x45
    10x65
    8x65
    10x55

    I'm a complete pansy!


    Notes - Once again, I thought this looked like a light workout on paper. In actuality, these movements are all weak points for me which made the workout challenging. Will have to be careful when doing the dumbbell rows as heavier weight will make me want to pull with my arms. The underhanded rows are the first rows that I have been able to hit my back with. Pendlays never did anything for me. Biceps were trashed after chins, thus the weak-ass curls. That was probably my third sets of curls in six+ months.

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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    Core Press - Bench Press
    Supp #1 - Dips
    Supp #2 - Incline

    Core Push - Low Bar Squat
    Supp #1 - Front Squats
    Supp #2 - GHR/Hypers

    Core Pull - Chins
    Supp #1 - Self Supported Dumbell Rows
    Supp #2 - Underhand Barbell Rows

    Core Lift - Deadlift
    Supp #1 - Strait Leg Deadlift (Romanian)
    Supp #2 - Hack Squat *This is actually to support Push movements

    Abs - 3x/week


    The above is also my order of workouts.

    As far as weights, in Week 1 I will use 65% of 1RM. In Week 4 I will be at 90% of 1RM for sets of AMRAP-3-3. That will equate to Bench@235, Squat@315, Chins-AMRAP, and Deads@370. A little leary of the deads and trying to crank out reps. Goes against what I have done with keeping deads in low rep ranges to protect yourself. Besides, I am not sure I could crank out more than three at 370. That may be a telling point early on in the program.
    Pretty solid workout there. However, why do you have a lift exercise ( GHR ) on push day and a push exercise ( hack swquat ) on lift day?

    Also, do you do complexes/weakpoint training?
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    Originally Posted by K-Krakrz View Post
    Pretty solid workout there. However, why do you have a lift exercise ( GHR ) on push day and a push exercise ( hack swquat ) on lift day?

    Also, do you do complexes/weakpoint training?
    GHRs & hack squats are my weak point training (legs)
    Have not done the complexes this weak as I am more just concentrating on surviving these DOMS.
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    Aborted

    Today's Deadlift workout was aborted after deads and strait leg dead. On my last set of sldl (Romanian) all was going well until my sacrum area felt crushed upon completing ther last rep (a rep I easily completed). After 5 mins of not being able to bend, I tried to man up and do my ab work, but could not get on the bench. Its 2 hours out and its getting better but still present. Its not muscle but rather a deep locked-up feeling in my sacrum area. Hope I didn't ruin myself.
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    Don't worry about 'manning up' when you have that kind of pain. Keeping healthy is every bit as important if not more so than the workout itself. Can't say I've experienced pain directly in the sacrum area (maybe once on the leg press) but not being able to bend over is not a good sign. Tried using the foam roller?
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    I'm 3 hours out and I'm able to function, bend, stretch, etc. Although I can definitely tell I did something. I'm hoping it was just an intense spasm in that area that led to the problem. Its not a foam roller kind of situation. More like tendons or nerves. Anyways, I did do 16 reps at 250 on my last set of deads today before going to sldl. This may have just been my body going on strike momentarily!
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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    Today's Deadlift workout was aborted after deads and strait leg dead. On my last set of sldl (Romanian) all was going well until my sacrum area felt crushed upon completing ther last rep (a rep I easily completed). After 5 mins of not being able to bend, I tried to man up and do my ab work, but could not get on the bench. Its 2 hours out and its getting better but still present. Its not muscle but rather a deep locked-up feeling in my sacrum area. Hope I didn't ruin myself.
    Ouch. Doesn't sound extremely promising. You will find out quite a bit come tomorrow morning, I thin
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Ouch. Doesn't sound extremely promising. You will find out quite a bit come tomorrow morning, I thin
    This is my first thought as well. I dont think I am injured, but its more than just soreness.
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    GST Macrocycle 1 - Microcycle 1 Lift

    10 minute warmup - walking, jogging, dynamic movements

    Deadlift "jumps" interlaced throughout warmups and worksets

    Core Lift - Deadlifts
    Warmups
    5x135
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    3x225
    Worksets
    8x250 - 60% of 1RM
    8x250
    16x250

    Wow. Final set was 5-6 with double overhand grip, the rest were alternate grip.

    Supplemental Lift #2 - Romanian Deadlift
    10x135
    10x155
    8x175

    On last rep, my sacrum area totally locked up upon completing the rep. I mean I couldnt bend down to get my towel. Didnt know if I would make it out of the Bally's as was at. Should have done hack squats after these, but there was no way.

    Notes - Really worried that Ive tweaked myself at the beginning of this program.
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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    GST Macrocycle 1 - Microcycle 1 Lift

    10 minute warmup - walking, jogging, dynamic movements

    Deadlift "jumps" interlaced throughout warmups and worksets

    Core Lift - Deadlifts
    Warmups
    5x135
    3x185
    3x225
    Worksets
    8x250 - 60% of 1RM
    8x250
    16x250

    Wow. Final set was 5-6 with double overhand grip, the rest were alternate grip.

    Supplemental Lift #2 - Romanian Deadlift
    10x135
    10x155
    8x175

    On last rep, my sacrum area totally locked up upon completing the rep. I mean I couldnt bend down to get my towel. Didnt know if I would make it out of the Bally's as was at. Should have done hack squats after these, but there was no way.

    Notes - Really worried that Ive tweaked myself at the beginning of this program.
    Might want to ask Ryan about how to go about GST while recoverying from your injury.
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    Woke up at 6am and could barely roll over to get my feet on the floor. This must be what its like to be in a car crash! Still not sure if I'm injured as serious DOMS have set in. This follows the same pattern as each of my first three GST workouts as far as the DOMS are concerned. I have two rest days to foam roll and see whats up. One thing I know for sure........no quick movements!
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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    Woke up at 6am and could barely roll over to get my feet on the floor. This must be what its like to be in a car crash! Still not sure if I'm injured as serious DOMS have set in. This follows the same pattern as each of my first three GST workouts as far as the DOMS are concerned. I have two rest days to foam roll and see whats up. One thing I know for sure........no quick movements!

    I'm afraid it is an injury and the only question is how serious. I say this based on the fact that you couldn't bend over immediately after finishing.

    And I hate to say it, but this might prove to be an example of why so many people are against high rep deadlifts.

    Get that DOMS worked out and see what happens.
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    Yeah, I hear you on the reps. It was a lighter weight for the deads (250), but still a boatload of reps. The injury occured while doing sldls after the deads. It was also light weights (135-175) but that is still loading the lower back/hips to a degree.

    I may survive. DOMS are bigtime today, but the pain I was feeling yesterday is gone. Then again, I have been on my feet today moving around.
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    After more thought, I realize that I used a three inch step for my sets of sldls. That is what probably caused me to put my back at an unnnatural angle (i.e. rounded). If I would not of used the step I would probably be good and if I stayed with sets across rather than uping from 135 to 175,. I probably would have been good.

    Update is that I think I will survive. I can touch my toes, albeit not real quickly. But, I am not in any ungodly pain and have not taken any meds. I would just rate what I have as discomfort.
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    If you can toe touch the day after and only rate it as discomfort you should be alright.

    Take it as a slap on the wrist. You have to be very careful regarding your back position whenever you are pulling from the floor or otherwise bending over at the waist under load.
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    subbed. I've always been a little interested in GST, hope to see you make some good gains!
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    If you can toe touch the day after and only rate it as discomfort you should be alright.

    Take it as a slap on the wrist. You have to be very careful regarding your back position whenever you are pulling from the floor or otherwise bending over at the waist under load.
    Been reading up on erectior spinae muscles and the psoas muscle. In the article below scroll to Psoas. This kind of stuff should be required reading for those of us that pull shit from the floor. I think my Psoas muscle spasmed.

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    Originally Posted by FastCatChamp View Post
    Been reading up on erectior spinae muscles and the psoas muscle. In the article below scroll to Psoas. This kind of stuff should be required reading for those of us that pull shit from the floor. I think my Psoas muscle spasmed.

    http://www.julstro.com/what_happens_exactly.html
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    Good stretch and more importantly......I think I will surely be unaffected in time from the back deal of a few days back.
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