Is Lesnar the next Fedor?

[LatsMakeTheMan]

Brock is not getting 27 fights in 7 years

lol....good point. He'll be lucky to have 15 fights at his current pace.

[Maine]

Cleaning out the PrideFC heavyweight division > Cleaning out the UFC heavyweight division

face it, all of the current top UFC heavyweights are overrated prospects with 12 or less fights and only 1 or 2 notable career wins, who are untested in certain areas. and when/if they are/were tested in that area, they were exposed for huge weaknesses and holes in their game.

Carwin = No Cardio, suspect chin after Gonzaga fight, untested ground against good grapplers, still really untested off his back
Lesnar = Horrible standup, afraid to get hit, turtles up under pressure, no defense off his back
JDS = Untested chin, untested ground game
Cain = Suspect chin after Gonzaga fight


no wonder Lord_Semen is so renowned for wanting to lick lesnars cawk tat on his chest so much

The strange thing is, Lesnar's standup might not be the best but he wasn't afraid to get hit when he fought Coutre, Herring or Mir?

[Dragger]

If we look 7 years into the future is Lesnar gonna be 32-1-0?

Ummmm....













































NO!

[John_Connor]

some people are delusional and let nostalgia cloud their judgement of the Pride HW division.

Let's see:

Pride:
Fedor -lost to werdum who jds beat,overated and can only beat UFC rejects like Sylvia and Arlovski and Lindland.
Barnett - overrated juicer who lost to Cro Cop three times and Cro Cop can't hack it in the UFC
Nog - beaten up by Mir,Cain.
Cro Cop - beat 2 horrible fighters in unremarkable fashion and got beat by a couple UFC guys not even in top 10
Sergei - guy got beat by Monson who couldn't even beat Sylvia
Randleman - Couture already beat him; Liddell beat him--guy's a joke
Coleman - this old man raped Pride's whole division in one night

[F5connecting]

Fedor Emelianenko, Aleksander Emelianenko, Josh Barnett, Mirko Cro Cop, Big Nog, Igor Vovchanchyn, Sergei Kharitonov > Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, Gabriel Gonzaga, Frank Mir, Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez

Let`s settle this at the annual survivor series. Team Lesnar vs. Team Fedor.
It`s gonna be five on five though, so:

Team Fedor:

Fedor Emelianenko
Aleksander Emelianenko
Mirko CroCop
Big Nog
Josh Barnett

vs.

Team Lesnar:

Brock Lesnar
Shane Carwin
Cain Velasquez
JDS
Frank Mir

That would be great.

[Mrs Grudge]

lol 4 years from now everyone will call the guys Lesnar is fighting cans. JDS, Carwin, Cain, Roy Nelson...oh wait Brock only fought one of those guys so far.

How bout we let Brock beat a few more decent guys first.

And please, if someone is seriously going to crap on Tim Sylvia and Arvloski, you could just as easily crap on Mir who hasn't looked hot lately either.

[Brunosaurus]

No one is going to do what Fedor did. But I do think Lesnar has the potential to be the greatest heavyweight of all time at this point. I don't see it as being very likely, but if he beats Cain and JDS he's well on his way.

[209vaughn]

Let`s settle this at the annual survivor series. Team Lesnar vs. Team Fedor.
It`s gonna be five on five though, so:

Team Fedor:

Fedor Emelianenko
Aleksander Emelianenko
Mirko CroCop
Big Nog
Josh Barnett

vs.

Team Lesnar:

Brock Lesnar
Shane Carwin
Cain Velasquez
JDS
Frank Mir

That would be great.

Um I take team Lesnar every day of the week on this one.

[Urban1904]

The strange thing is, Lesnar's standup might not be the best but he wasn't afraid to get hit when he fought Coutre, Herring or Mir?

youre delusional, the fight with couture was the fight that first showed lesnar didnt like getting hit, especially when randy cut him open and worked him in the clinch aganist the cage. lesnar controlled the herring fight the entire time on the ground and never got hit standing up, you can throw that statement out the window. and despite mir being overrated as a striker being that hes really sloppy and slow, lesnar was still afraid to get hit by him and pulled a bob sapp by running straight backwards every time punches were thrown his way.

dude literally closes his eyes, bob sapps backwards, and turtles up when punches are thrown at him. brock isnt a fighter, dude is nothing more than an athlete. put him against a real fighter like alistair overeem, and its a wrap for brock. gonna be hard for lesnar to run and turtle up when ubereem goes hyper dutch cyclone on him and KO's him via knees of death

[nodnarb481]

no. end thread

[ssj4veggeto1008]

Ubereem > Lesnar...srs.

[Dragger]

youre delusional, the fight with couture was the fight that first showed lesnar didnt like getting hit, especially when randy cut him open and worked him in the clinch aganist the cage. lesnar controlled the herring fight the entire time on the ground and never got hit standing up, you can throw that statement out the window. and despite mir being overrated as a striker being that hes really sloppy and slow, lesnar was still afraid to get hit by him and pulled a bob sapp by running straight backwards every time punches were thrown his way.

dude literally closes his eyes, bob sapps backwards, and turtles up when punches are thrown at him. brock isnt a fighter, dude is nothing more than an athlete. put him against a real fighter like alistair overeem, and its a wrap for brock. gonna be hard for lesnar to run and turtle up when ubereem goes hyper dutch cyclone on him and KO's him via knees of death

Proof he's afraid of getting hit right here /\ /\ /\

Like he said, he closes his eyes, runs away, and goes fetal(goes lesnar). His stand-up is comical, it's seriously funny! I see Carwin keeping it standing in the rematch and just beating the **** outta him until he quits.

[breathinglife]

Brock would beat all of Pride's HWs in under 3 minutes.

You can disagree, you would be wrong, but you may disagree.

This is an argument of pure genius.

[BIGNHYOOGE]

We can say Lesnar is a younger Fedor

[John_Connor]

Um I take team Lesnar every day of the week on this one.

x2.

[Dragger]

We can say Lesnar is a younger Fedor

Fedor 33 years-old

Lessnar 32 years-old

Yeah, technically he IS younger... just not by much(10 months).

[Urban1904]

Lesnar would get raped raw by PrideFC vets in their prime

especially against sprawl and brawl guys like Igor

[winthorpe]

Lesnar would get raped raw by PrideFC vets in their prime

especially against sprawl and brawl guys like Igor

You shouldn't have edited out the Mark Coleman part of your post. I think it's true as well, and find it particularly humorous.

[HardGainer82]

youre delusional, the fight with couture was the fight that first showed lesnar didnt like getting hit, especially when randy cut him open and worked him in the clinch aganist the cage. lesnar controlled the herring fight the entire time on the ground and never got hit standing up, you can throw that statement out the window. and despite mir being overrated as a striker being that hes really sloppy and slow, lesnar was still afraid to get hit by him and pulled a bob sapp by running straight backwards every time punches were thrown his way.

dude literally closes his eyes, bob sapps backwards, and turtles up when punches are thrown at him. brock isnt a fighter, dude is nothing more than an athlete. put him against a real fighter like alistair overeem, and its a wrap for brock. gonna be hard for lesnar to run and turtle up when ubereem goes hyper dutch cyclone on him and KO's him via knees of death

This.

I pointed out the same thing about the second Mir fight a month ago, and people were like "Nah, he was just getting space for his takedown!"

[Urban1904]

You shouldn't have edited out the Mark Coleman part of your post. I think it's true as well, and find it particularly humorous.

lol yeah, imo coleman in his prime would beat lesnar

edited it out though cause i know id probly catch a lot of heat from it by all the lesnar zombies like lord semen

[winthorpe]

lol yeah, imo coleman in his prime would beat lesnar

edited it out though cause i know id probly catch a lot of heat from it by all the lesnar zombies like lord semen

lol Oh, I knew why you did it and totally understand. You might as well say '**** it' and type what you want anyway. Right or wrong, it can't be nearly as bad as most of the drivel in this thread. I mean, have you read half the posts on any Fedor and/or Brock thread? They are ridiculous and borderline retarded.

[Urban1904]

This.

I pointed out the same thing about the second Mir fight a month ago, and people were like "Nah, he was just getting space for his takedown!"

lmfao

im tellin you man, all of these dudes are delusional and fall into lesnars hype so easy

these are the type of dudes who arent even mma fans. they have the "if its not ufc, it aint sh*t" mentality

[someonefat]

youre delusional, the fight with couture was the fight that first showed lesnar didnt like getting hit, especially when randy cut him open and worked him in the clinch aganist the cage. lesnar controlled the herring fight the entire time on the ground and never got hit standing up, you can throw that statement out the window. and despite mir being overrated as a striker being that hes really sloppy and slow, lesnar was still afraid to get hit by him and pulled a bob sapp by running straight backwards every time punches were thrown his way.

dude literally closes his eyes, bob sapps backwards, and turtles up when punches are thrown at him. brock isnt a fighter, dude is nothing more than an athlete. put him against a real fighter like alistair overeem, and its a wrap for brock. gonna be hard for lesnar to run and turtle up when ubereem goes hyper dutch cyclone on him and KO's him via knees of death

he won all those fights also

he doesn't have best defense yet but he does good job of avoiding getting hit which is smart. What do you want him to do stand there and get ko'd? U mad he became hw champion of best organization in the world in less then 2 years training? And has fought champions in his last 3 fights finishing all of them early in 2nd? Or how about not fighting for a year and nearly dying coming back in first fight back to finish the scariest hw striker ufc has ever seen?

I swear the brock haters on here are ridiculous don't give him any respect for what he has done which is quite remarkable with his experience.

[Urban1904]

he won all those fights also

he doesn't have best defense yet but he does good job of avoiding getting hit which is smart. What do you want him to do stand there and get ko'd? U mad he became hw champion of best organization in the world in less then 2 years training? And has fought champions in his last 3 fights finishing all of them early in 2nd? Or how about not fighting for over a year and nearly dying coming back in first fight back to finish the scariest hw striker ufc has ever seen?

I swear the brock haters on here are ridiculous don't give him any respect for what he has done which is quite remarkable with his experience.

lesnar sucks.

none of his wins are impressive

min soo kim - can with more losses than wins
heath herring - out of his prime, fedor's sloppy seconds
randy couture - 44 years old and passed his prime, came off a 16 month layoff
frank mir - always been overrated, glass jaw queen who folds against bigger and more athletic fighters
shane carwin - overrated prospect who pretty much gassed out and handed brock the win on a silver platter

[someonefat]

lesnar sucks.

none of his wins are impressive

min soo kim - can with more losses than wins
heath herring - out of his prime, fedor's sloppy seconds
randy couture - 44 years old and passed his prime, came off a 16 month layoff
frank mir - always been overrated, glass jaw queen who folds against bigger and more athletic fighters
shane carwin - overrated prospect who pretty much gassed out and handed brock the win on a silver platter

he #1 hw in the world, yep sure does suck. He would beat fedor faster then werdum did.

[Urban1904]

he #1 hw in the world, yep sure does suck. He would beat fedor faster then werdum did.

no he wouldnt, fedor would have brock turtling up, then have the cardio to also finish him

fedor would completely destroy brock

werdum would beat brock too. werdum's muy thai is decent, his standup is still light years ahead of brocks. brock would still go to his bread and butter looking for the takedown, but then get submitted by werdum

sorry

[someonefat]

no he wouldnt, fedor would have brock turtling up, then have the cardio to also finish him

fedor would completely destroy brock

werdum would beat brock too. werdum's muy thai is decent, his standup is still light years ahead of brocks. brock would still go to his bread and butter looking for the takedown, but then get submitted by werdum

sorry

Fedor get taken down and face pounded in under 30 sec, he isn't even a top 10 fighter anymore. I'd be surprised if he beats bigfoot silva.

werdum would look similar to second frank mir fight only he be like 20 lbs smaller and worse striking so be even more sad.

[Dragger]

he doesn't have best defense yet but he does good job of avoiding getting hit which is smart.

Way to sugar coat it. "doesn't have best defense yet but he does good job of avoiding getting hit"

HAHAHAH!!!!! LOLOL! Understatement of the YEAR!

What do you want him to do stand there and get ko'd?

How about fight back instead of running away with his eyes closed turtling up into the fetal position? I mean, this is MMA, a COMBAT sport. It usually does involve striking of some sort.

His striking is comical. Hell, it's an embarassment. He really should be ashamed of how bad his stand-up is. It should be called stand-up comedy! He can't take a punch, he's afraid of getting hit, it's funny really.

I can't think of ONE fighter currently in UFC with worst striking than lesnar! He's got to be the worst, has anyone else ran away from a punch and gone fetal immediately since UFC III??? Hell, MATT HUGHS HAS BETTER STRIKING!!!!!

[someonefat]

Way to sugar coat it. "doesn't have best defense yet but he does good job of avoiding getting hit" HAHAHAH!!!!! LOLOL! Understatement of the YEAR!





How about fight back instead of running away with his eyes closed turtling up into the fetal position? I mean, this is MMA, a COMBAT sport. It usually does involve striking of some sort.

His striking is comical. Hell, it's an embarassment. He really should be ashamed of how bad his stand-up is. He can't take a punch, he's afraid of getting hit, it's funny really.

Yes he should stand there and get hit like a man lol

he won his last 3 fights finishing them all early, u mad?

[Dragger]

Yes he should stand there and get hit like a man lol

Just stand there? That would be stupid.

How about fight back like a man, maybe?!?!?!? You know, like a FIGHTER?

Guess you can't read.

You Fail...





... just like lesnar's stand-up