Why get a $1200 macbook pro...

[wakeboy21]

brb having a kernel panic on my Mac where the BIOS no longer correctly recognizes the amount of installed RAM…*reseat the RAM, fixes the issue, but within 24 hours, more kernel panics.

Macs are vulnerable. Hell, UNIX is vulnerable. Do a little googling, you might learn a thing or two.

-N.L

why do you sign your posts ****... no ones wants your autograph

[Iron_And_sweat]

brb having a kernel panic on my Mac where the BIOS no longer correctly recognizes the amount of installed RAM…*reseat the RAM, fixes the issue, but within 24 hours, more kernel panics.

Macs are vulnerable. Hell, UNIX is vulnerable. Do a little googling, you might learn a thing or two.

-N.L

why are you exaggerating this? I have only ever heard it happen to 1 mac out of probably 50+ people I know who have them, it was cleared in 10 minutes and worked just fine and still is...

[Slugger00001]

Dells suck. get a toshiba or HP. Macbooks are overrated. I don't see why people get them.

[Agentdark45]

1. First of all, if they were built using the same hardware, tell me how it is Windows computers will fail so much more often then mac. You can blame it on the OS, but many windows systems fail, because of their ports, or hard drives, as far as i know, that's just about unheard of in the Mac community.
2. If Macs are more vulnerable, how come no one has a virus on mac. Provide some proof before you troll your THEORIES.
3. Macs whole GUI is based to please Media needs. Try looking at some documentation on the OS X Rewrite overhaul, you might learn a thing or two.

bahahahahaha are you being serious kid?

1. So you think Apple specifically design and engineer their own CPU's, RAM, Hard drives, Graphics cards e.t.c personally? Yeah they fail because of their "ports"....PORTS. Or is that you think OSX somehow does something magical to increase the lifespan of hard drives?

2. Just take a quick look on google at any hacking event, then note down which systems are the easiest to hack. But because I know you won't do that because you enjoy revelling in your ignorance I will post just one of many links on the topic: http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac_h...ows_pcs?page=1

3. LOLWUT? Just give me 1 example to back up your claim that it increases productivity / makes it worth the 50% price increase.

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[italianbull]

brb having a kernel panic on my Mac where the BIOS no longer correctly recognizes the amount of installed RAM…*reseat the RAM, fixes the issue, but within 24 hours, more kernel panics.

Macs are vulnerable. Hell, UNIX is vulnerable. Do a little googling, you might learn a thing or two.

-N.L

I'm gonna guess you googled Mac issues or something like it, found some random ass forum post and decided, I can seriously pwn this kid on bb.com with it. That was probably something 1 out of 10000 thing that happened. Mac will one day be exploited?, Perhaps, but by then, you would think mac will move to something bigger and better where that exploitation will be handled. For now Mac is superior on security, and there is no arguing that. You dont even need Anti-Virus for a Mac and you still shouldnt get a virus, no way around it.

[Natural.Lifter]

why are you exaggerating this? I have only ever heard it happen to 1 mac out of probably 50+ people I know who have them, it was cleared in 10 minutes and worked just fine and still is...

Apple has done some great things, particularly from a UI perspective.

However, many of the preconceived notions about their products are blatantly false (Macs don't get viruses, etc). In no way are they justified in charging twice what they should be for a computer.

-N.L

[Natural.Lifter]

I'm gonna guess you googled Mac issues or something like it, found some random ass forum post and decided, I can seriously pwn this kid on bb.com with it. That was probably something 1 out of 10000 thing that happened. Mac will one day be exploited?, Perhaps, but by then, you would think mac will move to something bigger and better where that exploitation will be handled. For now Mac is superior on security, and there is no arguing that. You dont even need Anti-Virus for a Mac and you still shouldnt get a virus, no way around it.

No, it's what happened to the Mac I'm typing on now.

There are tons of articles along the lines of "Apple Slow To Patch Security Holes".

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2335738,00.asp

-N.L

[italianbull]

Apple has done some great things, particularly from a UI perspective.

However, many of the preconceived notions about their products are blatantly false (Macs don't get viruses, etc). In no way are they justified in charging twice what they should be for a computer.

-N.L

It's not just viruses that go into price. It's hardware, Interface, Programs. Mac has a lot of production in their programs which is the reason they are so good, so they charge more to cover the spread.

[SUMTINGVEWYWONG]

lol @ people thinking macs are untouchable when it comes to viruses. If you have ever done any research besides regurgitating what the mac commericals say, you will find out you are an idiot.

[Ted Nugent]

okay question for all you PC fanboy brahs.

what would be a good laptop (not necessarily specific model, just basic specs or brand) that i could get and make the OS like a mac?

[Natural.Lifter]

It's not just viruses that go into price. It's hardware, Interface, Programs. Mac has a lot of production in their programs which is the reason they are so good, so they charge more to cover the spread.

I don't buy it. You can get the same productivity for free from many Linux distributions.

-N.L

[Benny_Lava]

the simple answer to this argument is this..

if you're an idiot, or do not have the ambition to take a day or two to learn how to use a computer properly and safely, go with a mac.

if you do not apply to the latter, go with a pc.

i have zero problems with PC's, and have never had a reason to even investigate mac, i only know their prices are ridiculous.

[italianbull]

I don't buy it. You can get the same productivity for free from many Linux distributions.

-N.L

I used to run linux actually, this was a PC/Mac Debate, I love linux, but Mac looks just like linux, interface wise, but is backed by Macs graphics/programs. Course there are pros and cons, but I believe the Pros outweigh the cons, when it comes to Mac.

[gsxtreme1987]

Because retarded people just want this thing on anything they own.



You put that logo on a piece of turd and there is people that would buy it.

[italianbull]

the simple answer to this argument is this..


i have zero problems with PC's, and have never had a reason to even investigate mac, i only know their prices are ridiculous.

You never realize you have problems until you experience the brighter side of life, MAC!

[supreme snuggie]

BRB mac was designed for "media needs" with an HD screen, but doesnt even have a blue ray cd drive. LOL WUT

[xBODOMx]

Asus laptops > Apple

This.

Get asus or acer. Don't buy dell / hp / toshiba

[Agentdark45]

BRB mac was designed for "media needs" with an HD screen, but doesnt even have a blue ray cd drive. LOL WUT

Lol this.

brb being a "graphic designer" so I bought a Mac, parrot off the same speel about it being for media, but not giving any practical examples to back up my claims.

[supreme snuggie]

the simple answer to this argument is this..

if you're an idiot, or do not have the ambition to take a day or two to learn how to use a computer properly and safely, go with a mac.

if you do not apply to the latter, go with a pc.

i have zero problems with PC's, and have never had a reason to even investigate mac, i only know their prices are ridiculous.

*random sidenote*

holy ****... finally SOMEONE on the internet that spells ridiculous CORRECTLY.

[Agentdark45]

For now Mac is superior on security, and there is no arguing that. You dont even need Anti-Virus for a Mac and you still shouldnt get a virus, no way around it.

I see you thoroughly read my post:

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" Dai Zovi, a Mac security expert and co-author of "The Mac Hacker's Handbook," revealed a flaw that that lets hackers take over a Mac OS X machine, and steal and read encrypted data, Reuters reports. Daily Tech reports that it's a relatively simple exploit:

All the technique needs is access to the memory. A few lines of code will give the attacker access to the root memory, which is then written to establish a TCP connection, allowing the hacker to download malicious files and control the computer remotely. Mr. Zovi demonstrated how the attack can be used to hijack Apple's Safari browser, stealing encrypted data from a user's bank accounts.

I've written previously that Apple refuses to acknowledge that Macs are not thoroughly safe, and that the company does a worse job than Microsoft at closing security holes. This is just one more example.

Dovi warns that there's nothing inherent in Mac OS X that makes it safer than Windows, and even says that it's actually more fun writing malware for the Mac. The Daily Tech reports him saying:

"There is no magic fairy dust protecting Macs. Writing exploits for [Microsoft] Vista is hard work. Writing exploits for Mac is a lot of fun." "

*******.

[JinHit]

When you could just get a laptop from $600-$800 that works just a well?

Discuss

hope I don't start shitstorm but it looks inevitable with the mac vs pc fight and mac fanboys. I have been told macs have better quality then PCs...so who can prove this without bias and links to pro-mac sites?

Cause we are in a society where theres a lot of superficial people. And superficial have a mindset Macs are for them. Thats why.
They think they are paying more for protection and quality purposes cause they are ignorant about computers.
If you are ignorant about computers the chances of you buying a Mac is pretty high, if you have a high budget that is.

The more ignorant you are the higher chance you are to get a mac basically.

[stevezor]

Lenovo + Linux > All.

With Apple, you pay for their packaging and presentation. Their build quality is superb as is most of the hardware, that does not mean that it is not overpriced. People bitch and moan about a $500 laptop and try and say that their new $2k Macbook is "soooo much better". No ****? A $2,000 laptop is better than a $500 one? Try comparing it to a quality, high end PC and see that there is no difference. Also the Mac OSX that so many fanboys love and adore is nothing more than a modded BSD with a fancy UI.

I will say though that amongst my friends/acquaintances, the ones who had problems with their Windows based machines and now swear by Macs are the "Communications Major" type lol. These are the types of people that click on every suspicious link and blame their computer once it breaks. When Macs have a larger marketshare and more viruses are written for OSX, those idiots will no longer be safe.

[ispy]

2. Just take a quick look on google at any hacking event, then note down which systems are the easiest to hack. But because I know you won't do that because you enjoy revelling in your ignorance I will post just one of many links on the topic: [url]http://blogs.computerworld.com

most of the malware stuff that has been in the news has long been patched, and in most cases never found in the wild, only in published reports or competitions.

[mullineux1]

Macs - run on Unix, very smooth

Macs - Viruses - pretty much none

Windows - Viruses - sh*tload

[italianbull]

I see you thoroughly read my post:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/mac_h...ows_pcs?page=1
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" Dai Zovi, a Mac security expert and co-author of "The Mac Hacker's Handbook," revealed a flaw that that lets hackers take over a Mac OS X machine, and steal and read encrypted data, Reuters reports. Daily Tech reports that it's a relatively simple exploit:

All the technique needs is access to the memory. A few lines of code will give the attacker access to the root memory, which is then written to establish a TCP connection, allowing the hacker to download malicious files and control the computer remotely. Mr. Zovi demonstrated how the attack can be used to hijack Apple's Safari browser, stealing encrypted data from a user's bank accounts.

I've written previously that Apple refuses to acknowledge that Macs are not thoroughly safe, and that the company does a worse job than Microsoft at closing security holes. This is just one more example.

Dovi warns that there's nothing inherent in Mac OS X that makes it safer than Windows, and even says that it's actually more fun writing malware for the Mac. The Daily Tech reports him saying:

"There is no magic fairy dust protecting Macs. Writing exploits for [Microsoft] Vista is hard work. Writing exploits for Mac is a lot of fun." "

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I've read it, and I'm not an idiot, if for now mac is secure, then why have I never had a virus, nor my 8 or 9 freinds have never had a virus, meanwhile i've fixed my old Windows machines, and a couple of my buddies' windows machines. You show me where a bunch of macs are getting viruses and i'll believe it. And for the record, Mac has fixed a bunch of holes they have found themselves, so believe me, when it is expoited they're gonna take care of it nice and quick.

[SuperCHARKA]

was thinking about this today actually

it's because they're much whiter with better plastic