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    Why cant Brock lesnar be that good?

    why does everyone hate on him? Is it impossible for him to actually be the best HW is the UFC...as i recall, didnt Randy Couture get a title shot after only 4 fights? you people make it as though he has to have been around for 5 years before he can even be thought of as the best
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    Why do people hate him? from the top of my mind.

    - He was a pro-wrestler.
    - He's not a martial artist (at least not in the traditional sense of the word)
    - He's arrogant.

    War Lesnar!!
    War Carwin!!

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    Originally Posted by ptotheb View Post
    Why do people hate him? from the top of my mind.

    - He was a pro-wrestler.
    - He's not a martial artist (at least not in the traditional sense of the word)
    - He's arrogant.

    War Lesnar!!
    this^

    I think he's definitely improved his MMA game and his speed/power are insane for a HW but I hate how he brings his WWE attitude to the UFC. When he does interviews it reminds me of corny WWF **** I used to watch when I was 11.
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    Originally Posted by ptotheb View Post
    Why do people hate him? from the top of my mind.


    - He's not a martial artist (at least not in the traditional sense of the word)
    Nah....just a D1 heavyweight national wrestling champion...no big deal.
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    i dont see any way shane can win the fight saturday other than catching him on the chin. Brock has superior wrestling, has size, strength and speed. SHould be an epic asswhipping of wrestling and gnp.

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    Originally Posted by yoyoyolilembryo View Post
    i dont see any way shane can win the fight saturday other than catching him on the chin. Brock has superior wrestling, has size, strength and speed. SHould be an epic asswhipping of wrestling and gnp.

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    because he's beat heath herring (can), min soo kim (uber can), a 46 year old zombie couture and an overrated frank mir

    it has nothing to do with him being a pro wrestler, only insecure ****ing idiots rag on him for being in the WWE, the fact is his record just isn't impressive enough to deem him the best hw regardless of him having the ufc title or not.

    could he become the best hw? absolutely

    is he currently the best hw? no
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    Originally Posted by yoyoyolilembryo View Post
    i dont see any way shane can win the fight saturday other than catching him on the chin. Brock has superior wrestling, has size, strength and speed. SHould be an epic asswhipping of wrestling and gnp.

    agreed.
    and i lol at people that try and claim their wrestling is equal. Like a div 1 ncaa national champ is equal to a div 2 champ- that's why they have different divisions because the people that aren't skillful enough to be in div 1 still get a chance to compete in div 2. They may be the same size and stats but without doubt brock has a lot more strength and speed/agility than carwin does.
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    why does everyone hate on him? Is it impossible for him to actually be the best HW is the UFC...as i recall, didnt Randy Couture get a title shot after only 4 fights? you people make it as though he has to have been around for 5 years before he can even be thought of as the best
    I think its because of his cocky and smug attitude. Sure other fighters do it too, but he takes it to a whole nother level

    Its why I like Fedor so much (even after his unexpected loss). He just looks like a regular dude doing what he enjoys. He's not plastered in a bunch of crappy tattos and he doesn't have some flashy faggoty dyed hairstyle or mohawk.

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    mark my words Brock will be the Ronnie Coleman of MMA for the next decade and Fedor will be remembered as the Arnold of MMA.
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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    because he's beat heath herring (can), min soo kim (uber can), a 46 year old zombie couture and an overrated frank mir

    it has nothing to do with him being a pro wrestler, only insecure ****ing idiots rag on him for being in the WWE, the fact is his record just isn't impressive enough to deem him the best hw regardless of him having the ufc title or not.

    could he become the best hw? absolutely

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    enlighten me on who the best hw is? (srs I don't know)
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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    because he's beat heath herring (can), min soo kim (uber can), a 46 year old zombie couture and an overrated frank mir

    it has nothing to do with him being a pro wrestler, only insecure ****ing idiots rag on him for being in the WWE, the fact is his record just isn't impressive enough to deem him the best hw regardless of him having the ufc title or not.

    could he become the best hw? absolutely

    is he currently the best hw? no
    wanna name a UFC HW that you think is better? Only person I can think of at the moment is maybe Carwin.

    I agree that his record isn't that impressive but the fact is the UFC HW division just isn't that impressive to begin with.
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    enlighten me on who the best hw is? (srs I don't know)
    imo even though he just lost, fedor is still the best hw
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    Originally Posted by exl View Post
    wanna name a UFC HW that you think is better? Only person I can think of at the moment is maybe Carwin.

    I agree that his record isn't that impressive but the fact is the UFC HW division just isn't that impressive to begin with.
    I never said he wasn't the best ufc hw, just he isn't the best MMA hw
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    LOL @ UFC fanboys whining over the 2 years Brock pro wrestled over 6 years ago. Its not the fact that he was a pro wrestler that got him so much attention. Bobby Lashley was a wrestler too, and he's not taking the sport over at its highest level.

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    mark my words Brock will be the Ronnie Coleman of MMA for the next decade and Fedor will be remembered as the Arnold of MMA.
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    Originally Posted by the_guvna View Post
    I never said he wasn't the best ufc hw, just he isn't the best MMA hw
    yea but that's what the thread is about, why people don't consider him the best UFC HW


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    why does everyone hate on him? Is it impossible for him to actually be the best HW is the UFC...as i recall, didnt Randy Couture get a title shot after only 4 fights? you people make it as though he has to have been around for 5 years before he can even be thought of as the best
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    Originally Posted by exl View Post
    yea but that's what the thread is about, why people don't consider him the best UFC HW
    most people do wtf
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    Originally Posted by ptotheb View Post
    Why do people hate him? from the top of my mind.

    - He was a pro-wrestler.
    - He's not a martial artist (at least not in the traditional sense of the word)
    - He's arrogant.

    War Lesnar!!
    War Carwin!!

    Rooting for both these guys.
    wtf. nah being the D1 wrestling champion means all he is, is a wwe guy
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    I think people hate his cocky attitude. it impresses me that he is training with Randy for this fight which means he is trying to improve. he actually was here in JAX for some medical stuff and worked out with the Jags. said he was a decent guy. However i think Shane Carwin really wants this and he has some huge ass hands with big KO power. should be a great fight.
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    yea but that's what the thread is about, why people don't consider him the best UFC HW
    coz people like to say he's only had 5 fights so he's 2 inexperienced to be called the best. I think a lot of people are just haterz so they look at his inexperience as a way to validate their opinion that he's not the best. But he can only fight what's given to him. If he'd just stayed in sub-par mma organizations fighting no-named cans he could've amassed a 15-0 record by now. Than people would just say that he's only fought cans blah blah blah. Fact is no matter what he does people are still just going to come up with bs reasons as to why he's not the best.
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    Originally Posted by Autopilot View Post
    Nah....just a D1 heavyweight national wrestling champion...no big deal.

    Yea because he was juiced to the gills and still is. He gonna get raped Saturday.



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    Originally Posted by fuggit View Post
    Yea because he was juiced to the gills and still is. He gonna get raped Saturday.
    In after jealous man past his physical peak.

    If he still is, and it made him the D-1 champ and made him the UFC champ, how does that mean he'll lose Saturday? In before jealous rant.
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    Originally Posted by vinnymac25 View Post
    why does everyone hate on him? Is it impossible for him to actually be the best HW is the UFC...as i recall, didnt Randy Couture get a title shot after only 4 fights? you people make it as though he has to have been around for 5 years before he can even be thought of as the best
    lol thread fails... comparing Captain America with Brock.

    read up on Couture first please: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Couture#Entering_MMA

    everyone hates Brock because him and Dana are all on each others nut sacks. Sure he is 300 pound beast who moves like a 150 pounder, but 99% of his fights he just lays on to of his opponents. Lastly, he didn't go through the pain and suffering like most fighter who are no namers and fight and win and get their chances at glory. He used his WWE fame to land him his title fight.
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    Originally Posted by KRILLEN91 View Post
    coz people like to say he's only had 5 fights so he's 2 inexperienced to be called the best. I think a lot of people are just haterz so they look at his inexperience as a way to validate their opinion that he's not the best. But he can only fight what's given to him. If he'd just stayed in sub-par mma organizations fighting no-named cans he could've amassed a 15-0 record by now. Than people would just say that he's only fought cans blah blah blah. Fact is no matter what he does people are still just going to come up with bs reasons as to why he's not the best.
    just because you don't think brock is the best hw it doesn't automatically make you a "hater" stop being so narrow minded, personally I don't think he is the best (at this current time) because he really hasn't done anything impressive in his fight career (as I stated earlier), I have no problem with him being a former WWE wrestler, his record just doesn't justify him being the best heavyeight (in the world) (in the ufc he probably is at this time)

    plus if he beats carwin theres many further intriguing matchups for him like valasquez and JDS.
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