Anti cancer / treatment diet.

[wanaBsedated]

I have heard varying opinions on what is the most effective plan.

Whats bb.com's take on which type of diet shows the most promise?

Curious.

[willjohn1]

I don't know of a particular diet, but there's a good video on ted.com by William Li on how certain foods can inhibit cancer progression (sorry, can't post links yet).

[DinoZurino]

(sorry, can't post links yet).

You can post urls

forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119394171

Just not exact hyperlinks. Any browser will just auto complete the http prefix.

[willjohn1]

Well here:
ted.com/talks/lang/eng/william_li.html

[elmariachii]

Actually the level of evidence for any particular diet to prevent cancer is still low.

Studies can contradict themselves sometimes, for example Red meat have been found as a high risk found that promotes cancer while Fish and specially omega 3 rich fish or Isoflavons have a protective effect.

But as i said, no Strong evidence has been found yet.

if you want studies to read, PM me.

[KLMARB]

Here's the concept using ketogenic nutrition for cancer treatment. There are two studies I know of that have been very promising.
http://www.ehow.com/way_5704252_glio...tion-diet.html

Her science is a little flakey, its clear she's unaware of gluconeogenesis using both proteins as well as glycerol for glucose production......

[thegymbum]

There's actually been a lot of debate on this lately in the medical community. I recently have read a few articles (in like journal of american med assoc and new england medical journal) reporting on studies that have refuted a lot of the "traditional" cancer prevention foods. Typically it had been thought that foods rich in antioxidants and compounds in fruits and veggies.. isoflavones, phytosterols, etc., were the best strategies for warding off cancer, but more recently studies have shown that some antioxidants, at least in higher doses, can INCREASE cancer risk. so it's like every that's been accepted for cancer prevention is suddenly being called into question. Final word? Uncertainty. Also it seems to vary with different types of cancer (especially foods like soy.. seems to decrease risk of certain cancers and raise others). If I find any of the articles I'll share them, haha all I know is that they were sometime in the past few months and I have years worth stacked up, I hate to think of going through all of them).

[thegymbum]

Oh, I do remember one specifically discussing folic acid and vitamin B12, and studies showed that HIGHER serum concentrations of these nutrients increased the incidence of several types of cancer and mortality. Kinda makes you wonder, eh?

[willjohn1]

Well, cancer cells feed off the same things normal cells do, so it would make sense certain nutrients could increase cancer growth. It's sort of like saying running gasoline through your engine will increase engine wear. I think a lot of times researchers will emphasize contrarian points of view just to get their studies more media notice.

[bloodsimple1234]

Oh, I do remember one specifically discussing folic acid and vitamin B12, and studies showed that HIGHER serum concentrations of these nutrients increased the incidence of several types of cancer and mortality. Kinda makes you wonder, eh?

too much of anything could be bad,folic acid is added to a lot of things.

[thegymbum]

Just read through a pretty good review with some of the nutrionally related risk factors for cancer. Thought I'd share a few highlights.

*Hypertension increases risk of developing certain types of cancer, particularly colon cancer.
*Diabetes, and in particular poor glucose control, elevate the risk of cancer.... also, "In a prospective study in Italy, elevated glucose was associated with a significantly elevated risk for both men and women (combined RR = 1.80)"
* "In a large prospective study, high circulating triacylglycerol concentrations were associated with a two-fold elevation in risk"
*Obesity is strongly correlated with elevated risk of several types of cancer.
*Vitamin D and calcium supplementation reduces cancer risk.

So watch your blood pressure and take care to eat blood pressure lowering foods. Avoid having consistently elevated blood sugar.. particularly if you're at risk for diabetes. Avoid taking in excess dietary fats. Keep your weight in a healthy range. Take your calcium/vitamin D supplements if you're not getting enough.

Not that that was anything anyone didn't already know, lol, but sometmies it's nice to see the obvious facts corroborated by science.

[isdatzo]

I have heard varying opinions on what is the most effective plan.

This question has intrigued me for years now. Since 4 years I have been systematically searching the literature for prospective studies in the hope to find an evidence based anti-cancer or treatment diet. This has led me create my own website:
Cancer and diet. A systematic review of prospective studies. http://canceranddiet.nl/

The website was created because practically all systematic reviews could not give me answers to the following questions:
-What specific food items are responsible for the described effects from the food groups?
-How much of a food group/item do I have to consume to find a described effect? And does no effect exclude the possibility of an effect at an intermediate level of consumption?
-Can a described effect be found among different strata of possible effect modifiers (e.g. sex, BMI, smoking status)?

Sadly, I have to agree with elmariachii. Very little evidence exists for strong associations of particular food items. But also, very little research was done examining food consumption following cancer diagnosis. So possibilities are endless.

[nkiritsis13]

Well, as someone who has survived cancer I have come to find that one's best approach is simply to eat smart. For example, eating a majority of natural foods with the least amount of chemicals or artificial ingredients, getting a proper balance of vital nutrients and amino acids, and avoid higher-risk foods/habits.

However, such measures really come down to aiding you in everyday health and general precaution. I learned a lot through my treatment, and when it comes to cancer, it's far too complicated for diet alone to combat or control. Everyone has potentially cancerous cells; it is a matter of the body naturally destroying those cells before they can proliferate.

I especially feel that the affect of one's diet is somewhat limited because of the treatment I went through. Vitamins and antioxidants are great for the body, but it took a cocktail of chemicals to destroy the cancer cells in my brain after having much of the tumor removed through surgery. To me, it is just the thought that to destroy cancer, "Unnatural' substances had to be introduced in the body that one could actually be equally cautious of for potential risk.

[ParsleyTea]

Already mentioned above, but I thought the Warburg diet sounded interesting for fighting cancer.

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/k...are-addictive/

[Robosco]

Well, as someone who has survived cancer I have come to find that one's best approach is simply to eat smart. For example, eating a majority of natural foods with the least amount of chemicals or artificial ingredients, getting a proper balance of vital nutrients and amino acids, and avoid higher-risk foods/habits.

I agree. I think what you eat plays a bigger factor in getting cancer than what you don't eat. If you eat a lot of processed foods (cured meat, chips, trans fatty snacks, food made from China, etc.) then you are introducing a lot of questionable chemicals into your body.

[jkmercer]

It has been proven by Otto Warburg, Nobel Prize winner that cancer cells cannot grow in an alkaline state. Changing your diet and increasing your pH levels may work. I have been drinking pH 9.5 alkaline water to increase my pH levels and have seen some good results. I read an article by Wade Lightheart who also endorses drinking alkaline water for overall fitness. I can direct anyone to the link if interested!

[kingof_queens]

It has been proven by Otto Warburg, Nobel Prize winner that cancer cells cannot grow in an alkaline state. Changing your diet and increasing your pH levels may work. I have been drinking pH 9.5 alkaline water to increase my pH levels and have seen some good results. I read an article by Wade Lightheart who also endorses drinking alkaline water for overall fitness. I can direct anyone to the link if interested!

Interesting.

[Ash_au]

Your blood is naturally between 7.35-7.45 meaning it is already alkaline. Any increase over 7.45 can cause alkalosis which can have its own complications especially with your muscles.

For the most part your body would be adjusting itself through respiration, urination to maintain pH, so trying to induce a higher pH would be difficult to achieve for longer than a short time.

I would be been regular consulting with a doctor on this and having regular blood tests

[MajorTwang]

A keto diet may have more of the risk factors for cancer, like bad fats, charred meat and possibly a lower antioxidant level.

But once a cancer is established, there seems to be some evidence that tumours don't grow as fast in a keto metabolism.

[rubbertoe20]

A keto diet may have more of the risk factors for cancer, like bad fats, charred meat and possibly a lower antioxidant level.

But once a cancer is established, there seems to be some evidence that tumours don't grow as fast in a keto metabolism.

So a keto diet with lots of good fats: Mostly monounsaturated and saturated fats with limited PUFAs, as well as an optimal Omega 3/6 balance with lots of fruits and veggies and a high consumption of well prepared, grass-fed organic meats is optimal?

[Somatotropin]

Ketogenic diet with very low PUFAs (cancer cells cant use ketones as energy, O6 PUFAs are carcinogenic) + Alternate Day Fasting (increasing autophagy, differential stress resistance, etc.).

[KG89]

rhododendron caucasicum

[BlackHeart.au]

That's a simple question.

Longest average lifespan = Japanese.

Best Anti-cancer = Japanese Diet.

[HydroStorm]

I wouldn't say the answer is clear-cut, but just to elaborate on a traditional Japanese diet since the Japanese have the most centenarians per-capita, their diet is full of vegetables, rice, fermented foods, fish, soy, small portions, and stuff like that.

[BRBbenchin300]

Vitamin B17, also known as amygdalin and laetrile, is a naturally-occurring compound found in many bitter seeds and nuts that has been found to aggressively destroy cancer cancer cells and cure all but the most terminal late-stage cancers. The FDA has banned its use and distribution in conventional medicine and marketing of Vitamin B17 as a cancer cure has been deemed a federal offense, though alternative health practitioners have been using concentrated laetrile as an effective cancer treatment for decades.

I've been eating 20-30 bitter apricot kernels four times a week for about five months now, trying to counteract any possible effects from years of smoking, bad nutrition and pharmaceutical drugs. Also trying to eat an alkaline organic diet along with supplementation.

[bonkerzzz]

Strict Paleo with little to no fruit to keep fructose on the low side.

No dairy, no grains and no legumes and low ish carb.

Grass fed meat, high omega 3 fats with low omega 6 fats and lots and lots of sleep.

[Inthearena]

That's a simple question.

Longest average lifespan = Japanese.

Best Anti-cancer = Japanese Diet.

Correlation does not equal causation.

What do you guys know about the Gerson Therapy? I have heard his name (Max Gerson)come up from multiple different sources lately. He supposedly cured all kinds of illness including many cases of cancer in the early 1900's mainly based on a raw organic juice diet.

[BitterBlossom]

Vitamin B17, also known as amygdalin and laetrile, is a naturally-occurring compound found in many bitter seeds and nuts that has been found to aggressively destroy cancer cancer cells and cure all but the most terminal late-stage cancers. The FDA has banned its use and distribution in conventional medicine and marketing of Vitamin B17 as a cancer cure has been deemed a federal offense, though alternative health practitioners have been using concentrated laetrile as an effective cancer treatment for decades.

If it has been shown to be this good, why did the FDA ban it?

[DJohnson]

Ketogenic diet with very low PUFAs (cancer cells cant use ketones as energy, O6 PUFAs are carcinogenic) + Alternate Day Fasting (increasing autophagy, differential stress resistance, etc.).

I've read a crap ton in my years and this is exactly what I would do if I was diagnosed with cancer.

Meals would be fatty meats and spices for the most part, oils, etc. I'd keep carbs extremely low.

Maybe not ideal but I'd probably still eat cheese and drink diet soda as well. I don't think it'd hurt at all but I might chicken out when my life is on the line. I could live the rest of my life with that diet.

[NETPRO]

Yes there are some food that have good evidence that they resist cancer such as
Ginger , sperulina , camel milk , carrots , brocoli , honey , probolis , falx seed oil , vinegar , salvia (sage).
Cut off sugar and you can use honey instead.

Lately people around my country started talking about a final cure for cancer, this cure depends on Camel urine.
I know a boy who cured Leukemia using Camel urine.

DR who studied in Glasco(UK) and worked in Saudi noticed a tell about Prophet Mohamad how he cured people with camel urine from a strange symptoms (those symptoms looked like what we call cancer).

The cure depends on Nanoparticles in Camel Urine Can Attack Cancer Cells (selective attack) she called it PM701.

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