View Poll Results: Ronnie or jay?
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Honestly, I think I would have rather seen Vic win both '06 and '07..
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Lets just say that if Jay really did beat Coleman in 06, Martinez sure as **** beat Cutler in 07.
My random opinion: 06 Ronnie, 07 Martinez, 08 Dexter, 09 Cutler.
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Jay, hands down. Ronnie's side chest though... jeez.
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I think Jay edged prejudging, but Ronnie convincingly won at the finals.
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Between Jay and Ronnie, Jay won. Can't say I'm a particular fan of either 06 physique though.
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Ronnie owns him as usual. they just handed jay the title because ronnie wasnt his dominating unbelievable self (even though he still looked good,especially for a 42 year old) , and im assuming they felt bad for jay and his 4 consecutive 2nd place finishes
Originally Posted by Loctus
Lets just say that if Jay really did beat Coleman in 06, Martinez sure as **** beat Cutler in 07.
My random opinion: 06 Ronnie, 07 Martinez, 08 Dexter, 09 Cutler.
this x100000000. cutler should have 1 sandow, ronnie should have nine and martinez1
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jay beats him from the back easy
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Originally Posted by lovebbing
Ronnie owns him as usual. they just handed jay the title because ronnie wasnt his dominating unbelievable self (even though he still looked good,especially for a 42 year old) , and im assuming they felt bad for jay and his 4 consecutive 2nd place finishes
this x100000000. cutler should have 1 sandow, ronnie should have nine and martinez1
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no hate to Jay but 06 should have been Ronnie's ninth. They compared Ronnie not to Jay, but to his own previous showings which is stupid. He was only a little watery in prejudging but still looked better and owned. Yet in 2007 Cutler is a LOT worse looking than Victor but they give him the title. Ronnie should have won in 06.
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Originally Posted by KevinSorbo
This^
no hate to Jay but 06 should have been Ronnie's ninth. They compared Ronnie not to Jay, but to his own previous showings which is stupid. He was only a little watery in prejudging but still looked better and owned. Yet in 2007 Cutler is a LOT worse looking than Victor but they give him the title. Ronnie should have won in 06.
they compared Ronnie to Jay and Jay won, simple
Jay had superior conditioning, better symmetry and similar mass for the most part not to mention his back shots were the best on stage for the first time ever
legit win IMO
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Once Jay's back beat out Ronnie's, it was over.
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This is when I stopped watching bodybuilding. The bigger joke was when ronnie leaned up even more for the European shows and still lost.
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When someone says that Jays conditioning was better...Do they mean that his watery filled body was better or his back wrinkles?
Im sorry but Ronnie should have had his 9th win hands down if they are only comparing him to Jay. I seen the videos and the pictures and R.C wins. Did R.C look better than he did in the past? Nah...BUT he looked better than Jay thats for sure.
Im no Jay hater either especially after his 09 showing.
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Originally Posted by N54
Honestly, I think I would have rather seen Vic win both '06 and '07..
Amen to that.
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Originally Posted by mikieson
When someone says that Jays conditioning was better...Do they mean that his watery filled body was better or his back wrinkles?
Im sorry but Ronnie should have had his 9th win hands down if they are only comparing him to Jay. I seen the videos and the pictures and R.C wins. Did R.C look better than he did in the past? Nah...BUT he looked better than Jay thats for sure.
Im no Jay hater either especially after his 09 showing.
No when people say that Jay's conditioning was better I'm pretty sure they mean that Jay's conditioning was better.
Quads and hamstrings especially.
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Originally Posted by N54
Honestly, I think I would have rather seen Vic win both '06 and '07..
Yep either Victor or Dexter. They were conditioned, symmetrical and full.
It was if Ronnie and Jay were the only guys competing in the judges eyes.
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Originally Posted by BaGeL23
Once Jay's back beat out Ronnie's, it was over.
I 100% believe you are correct.
Once Ronnie's key strong point was off, they could not reward that with the win.
Good observation. Reps.
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Originally Posted by flangmasterj
Yep either Victor or Dexter. They were conditioned, symmetrical and full.
It was if Ronnie and Jay were the only guys competing in the judges eyes.
lol your getting more and more biased....
Vic and Dex were not fuking with this in 2006.
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Damn..Jay looks like a completely different person now, compared to 06/07.
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Originally Posted by AnarkyLost
lol your getting more and more biased....
Towards whom?
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Originally Posted by KevinSorbo
This^
no hate to Jay but 06 should have been Ronnie's ninth. They compared Ronnie not to Jay, but to his own previous showings which is stupid. He was only a little watery in prejudging but still looked better and owned. Yet in 2007 Cutler is a LOT worse looking than Victor but they give him the title. Ronnie should have won in 06.
wtf are you talking about. are you a judge? do you know the judges? Please tell me how you know how the judges judged Ronnie.
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Towards the more symmetrical, conditioned and detailed guys?
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seems like alot of the "ronnie is looking great latley" people are in here. and to the person who said dex should have won... wtf? dex may have been well conditioned but that doesnt make up for the lack of calves and lower lats. jay won
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Jay not in the best shape > a pretty badly injured Ronnie
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Originally Posted by spamy
Jay not in the best shape > a pretty badly injured Ronnie
This is true, but Jay's conditioning wasn't too far off that year...look at the striations in his quads and vascularity


For some reason his body just holds water in seemingly random places
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they just gave it to jay because they felt pitiful for him after getting owned so hard so many times over and over again. he seriously was gettin fudge packed every time he stepped on stage. seriously, double fudge brownie packed with chocolate sprinkles
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Originally Posted by Amoral
This is when I stopped watching bodybuilding. The bigger joke was when ronnie leaned up even more for the European shows and still lost.
Tru dat! IMO, he was blowing Jay out of the water and still got no love the judges.


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I remember watching this and thought Ronnie should have won from the front and legs from both sides, BUT Rons back injury is quite visable and Ronnies back is not half what it used to be here, if Ronnie was 100% fit he would have won but on the day there was enough reasons for Jay to get the title.
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