Why don't guys "Monkey-Branch" ?

[janky]

Just interested in everyone's thoughts on this.

Typically girls know in advance when they're unhappy and want to leave a relationship. They start lining up potential, and then when they feel its time for the relationship to finally end, they just give the guy some tacky, lame, and unrealistic excuse and bounce right into the arms of a new partner.

So my question is this... Why don't we ever see guys doing this? Why are guys always the ones trying to fix sht in relationships, apologizing, then getting dumped and grieving for weeks on end while the girl has long since forgotten the guy and is happy, having fun, and enjoying a new relationship?

I dunno, maybe it boils to down men having more respect for their relationships (or investments) than women do? I'd like to not think from such a biased standpoint, but I'm not seeing a lot of other reasoning to this. Although, it may not be the worst idea in the world to adapt to these realities and start looking for other options when we realize we're unhappy in a relationship...
am I wrong for thinking that?


Discuss.

[DoubtErased]

Just interested in everyone's thoughts on this.

Typically girls know in advance when they're unhappy and want to leave a relationship. They start lining up potential, and then when they feel its time for the relationship to finally end, they just give the guy some tacky, lame, and unrealistic excuse and bounce right into the arms of a new partner.

So my question is this... Why don't we ever see guys doing this? Why are guys always the ones trying to fix sht in relationships, apologizing, then getting dumped and grieving for weeks on end while the girl has long since forgotten the guy and is happy, having fun, and enjoying a new relationship?

I dunno, maybe it boils to down men having more respect for their relationships (or investments) than women do? I'd like to not think from such a biased standpoint, but I'm not seeing a lot of other reasoning to this. Although, it may not be the worst idea in the world to adapt to these realities and start looking for other options when we realize we're unhappy in a relationship...
am I wrong for thinking that?


Discuss.

I wouldn't say we monkey branch or anything but every guy who is in a relationship knows a girl that will **** him if he was single or if he would just pursue it. Plus us men just go find a hood/bar rat for a ONS

[Teh_Nigerian]

Or we could all try to be more observant and just end the relationship when things start to go south. IMO. Unless its a marriage where kids and finances are involved there is no point in trying to rectify a relationship in which one of the people in it has already "checked out".

[hublife]

Self respect. Men typically have more of it than most women.

[janky]

I wouldn't say we monkey branch or anything but every guy who is in a relationship knows a girl that will **** him if he was single or if he would just pursue it. Plus us men just go find a hood/bar rat for a ONS

Good point.
Easier for a lot of guys to just get ass and try to move on... although some women do it, most are probably too scared of the "slut reputation" to go this route.

Or we could all try to be more observant and just end the relationship when things start to go south. IMO. Unless its a marriage where kids and finances are involved there is no point in trying to rectify a relationship in which one of the people in it has already "checked out".

I agree completely, however that is fairly uncommon. TWO people both mature enough to say "look im unhappy we should end this" ...? Rare.

I think a lot of it stems from girls being afraid to be alone and needing to feel someone there for them.. it's like an emotional security blanket, so they need to have another guy lined up to console them and remind them they're desireable...

[OMGaGURL]

Women have more options to exercise that sort of thing then men. Also I've met multiple girls where they say it's cheating when a guy does it but downplay it when they do it themselves. It mostly goes that if you're a guy you have to pursue a girl and build up that attraction. Girls just stand around there and if a guy is hitting on them or flirting with them they can act innocent as if they did nothing. Also the common excuse when they're lining up another guy is they say "this guy is just a friend" when they really know that's their next boyfriend. You know if a guy did that then a woman would have a jelous fit.

I wrote a thread on this once... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115130681

[pppabear]

Definitley an interesting perspective.

The way I see it, is that men generally only enter a relationship when they WANT to be in one, and then give it their all.

I've known way too many women they were so afraid of being alone, that they would jump from relationship to relationship and never be happy with anything. At the end of the day these women didn't have any identity and were only defined by what relationship they were currently in.

Don't get me wrong, there are some guys that does this too.

For my $.02, Relationships are hard work, when we choose to be in one, we're gonna sit through the schitty part to see the end result.

[DoubtErased]

I think a lot of it stems from girls being afraid to be alone and needing to feel someone there for them.. it's like an emotional security blanket, so they need to have another guy lined up to console them and remind them they're desireable...

I read this from a seminar/book called "Financial University" or something and he basically explains that if you are married to have an "emergency fund" or something along the lines of that and have like 1k in there and that it will calm the wife down because its like a security blanket to them, which is true. I think alot of women are afraid to break up with the BF for some stupid reason, rather it be like "I dont want to hurt his feelings"

Example also would be a friend of my GFs, she just left her husband a week later she is supposedly sleeping with a guy at her work place and is acting like it just happened over night. I wanted to call her out and tell her I know it was happening like she was still with her husband. Stupid bitch

[bill257]

Some do. You probably hear it more about hot chicks, because there are usually 5 guys lining up to bang them immediately when they are out of a relationship. Women are less likely to be waiting out a relationship because they get asked out constantly so they eventually say yes and are not free to pursue others immediately.

[SquatsNOats]

Because most Women are cowards by nature, you can't deny this. Cowards do cowardly things, the monkey-branch technique is one of those things.

[BackToBasics]

Some guys do, no question. But I think, for the most part, it leads back to the concept of men having fewer attachments/meaningful relationships, but placing a higher value on them.

The fickle/flighty nature of women just allows them to sever all ties to the relationship and 'recover' at light speed. For guys (at least if it truly was a meaningful relationship), it takes much longer to truly recover.

Maybe part of it is also the ease of which a new partner can be found. Women are the passive screeners for potential mates...dudes line up spitting game at them, and they either accept or reject the advances; not a lot of work/effort involved here. Dudes have to actually go out and actively pursue women and make the magic happen. It requires a certain state of mind and ambition - something that is usually lacking right after a breakup.

[AndrewBear]

Well I think there is a lot of reasons for this, but one huge one which I experienced and my friends have also is this;

A man falls out of love with his woman in the relationship, but continues to stay with her for easy sex. As he now has just been in a relationship his main focus is not "getting into another one", its simply sex. He realizes she was not meant for him, and this is not what he wants.

When a woman falls out of love in a relationship, she realizes that her partner was not meant for her, and she will try to find another man to "try" a relationship with. Relationships for women are more of a doorway to see if love exists inside or not.

Therefore when a man is in a failing relationship, he is more likely to cheat, or continue the relationship for sex. While a woman will either cheat, or actively look for a replacement.

A majority of men know that "sex" is hard to come by as a single man, so he would keep the lady around simply for more sex.

[anklez]

guys dont like to "give up" on anything much less a relationship.

however I will say that when ever I wil say that when My feelings for a girl change i do usually have a bcakup whether I was looking for it or not. I do intentionally monkey branch when I know a girl is up to something. They are being suspicious, I know something is going on, they won't confess.... they dump me.... That night I'm with next girl. the now x-girl friend gets pissed and goes to hell about how insensitive I am blah, blah, blah. Men are always the ones to blame, and always guilty of everything. blah, blah, blah.

[kiddink]

Because if you are always looking for something better and hopping back n forth, you're going to end up alone. Relationships are hard work.

[SwayWay]

Simple men dont emotionaly cheat like women do.

[Al_Pal]

men are slower to fall in and out of love, and will usually fight much harder to save an existing relationship instead of just saying fuk it and finding a new one.

its also much more common for men to cheat with other women, while having ZERO intentions of ever leaving their main chick. Women who cheat, much more often leave their man for the new guy that they are cheating with.

basically, we dont fall for our side chick like women do their side dick.

[DoubtErased]

men are slower to fall in and out of love, and will usually fight much harder to save an existing relationship instead of just saying fuk it and finding a new one.

its also much more common for men to cheat with other women, while having ZERO intentions of ever leaving their main chick. Women who cheat, much more often leave their man for the new guy that they are cheating with.

basically, we dont fall for our side chick like women do their side dick.

lol so true

usually men find it easier to separate emotions from sex

[OMGaGURL]

Because if you are always looking for something better and hopping back n forth, you're going to end up alone. Relationships are hard work.

I disagree. Any woman attractive enough to be jumping around a lot will always have an option open to them to settle down with. I've known some women that are constantly jumping around and as they got older they sure didn't end up single. They just ended up with either the richest guy they could find or the first one that knocked them up.

[Dave P]

Guys do this all the time though.


I know I've been guilty of it.



Has nothing to do with emotions and everything to do with just wanting steady sex. I don't want to leave my chick if I'm still getting good booty from her until some new booty is in the equation to replace the old booty.

[anklez]

I disagree. Any woman attractive enough to be jumping around a lot will always have an option open to them to settle down with. I've known some women that are constantly jumping around and as they got older they sure didn't end up single. They just ended up with either the richest guy they could find or the first one that knocked them up.

wow, what a meaningfull and fulfilling life

[dmacfour]

They probably jump around because they are trying to find the absolute best option.

I think about my options but it doesn't always pan out and I end up single for awhile.

[janky]

Self respect. Men typically have more of it than most women.

How so? I'm not disagreeing, just asking how you came to that conclusion.

Women have more options to exercise that sort of thing then men. Also I've met multiple girls where they say it's cheating when a guy does it but downplay it when they do it themselves. It mostly goes that if you're a guy you have to pursue a girl and build up that attraction. Girls just stand around there and if a guy is hitting on them or flirting with them they can act innocent as if they did nothing. Also the common excuse when they're lining up another guy is they say "this guy is just a friend" when they really know that's their next boyfriend. You know if a guy did that then a woman would have a jelous fit.

I wrote a thread on this once... http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115130681

Nice thread btw.. lots of good points.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head here. It's "emotional cheating" if we do it - girls are so scared to be left for someone else and not "valued" that they'll sht bricks if any female so much as sneezes in our presence - yet when they randomly decide they don't like us anymore and start talking to new prospects, it's NOT the same, they're just friends etc..
makes me fcking puke @ the hypocrisy.

Definitley an interesting perspective.

The way I see it, is that men generally only enter a relationship when they WANT to be in one, and then give it their all.

I've known way too many women they were so afraid of being alone, that they would jump from relationship to relationship and never be happy with anything. At the end of the day these women didn't have any identity and were only defined by what relationship they were currently in.

Don't get me wrong, there are some guys that does this too.

For my $.02, Relationships are hard work, when we choose to be in one, we're gonna sit through the schitty part to see the end result.

Agreed 100%.
Perhaps they don't share that mentality because of how easily and quickly a partner can be replaced? Why fight and struggle to make something work when you could just try something else?

I read this from a seminar/book called "Financial University" or something and he basically explains that if you are married to have an "emergency fund" or something along the lines of that and have like 1k in there and that it will calm the wife down because its like a security blanket to them, which is true. I think alot of women are afraid to break up with the BF for some stupid reason, rather it be like "I dont want to hurt his feelings"

Example also would be a friend of my GFs, she just left her husband a week later she is supposedly sleeping with a guy at her work place and is acting like it just happened over night. I wanted to call her out and tell her I know it was happening like she was still with her husband. Stupid bitch

Yeah exactly.. I mean it is possible that things "just happened" but realistically, women know damn well they want out of a relationship and I don't believe things "just happen" AFTER the relationship... there are precursors occurring during it's final stages

Some do. You probably hear it more about hot chicks, because there are usually 5 guys lining up to bang them immediately when they are out of a relationship. Women are less likely to be waiting out a relationship because they get asked out constantly so they eventually say yes and are not free to pursue others immediately.

I agree, but I don't necessarily think it's that black and white.
Women have options, but how many of them are acceptable and enticing? Guys hit on women nonstop, we know this - but women (as a result) have these high standards and will only date guys that X, work at X, wear X, have X, look like X, etc. etc. etc.
So having 20 guys lined up doesn't mean sht if none of them meet the criteria.

It's like men - we could lower our standards and fck a fat girl any second of any day. We don't because we don't want that. Same difference.

Although I will admit, given the multitude of options (and especially in a moment of weakness when she currently hates her relationship) a woman can justify accepting someone that does NOT meet her standards - temporarily - to get her by until something better comes along.

Because most Women are cowards by nature, you can't deny this. Cowards do cowardly things, the monkey-branch technique is one of those things.

Agreed. It's pretty chicken sht.
My favorite is when they use the cliche "I just need to be single for a while I'm not ready to date" and a week later have a new boyfriend.

Some guys do, no question. But I think, for the most part, it leads back to the concept of men having fewer attachments/meaningful relationships, but placing a higher value on them.

The fickle/flighty nature of women just allows them to sever all ties to the relationship and 'recover' at light speed. For guys (at least if it truly was a meaningful relationship), it takes much longer to truly recover.

Maybe part of it is also the ease of which a new partner can be found. Women are the passive screeners for potential mates...dudes line up spitting game at them, and they either accept or reject the advances; not a lot of work/effort involved here. Dudes have to actually go out and actively pursue women and make the magic happen. It requires a certain state of mind and ambition - something that is usually lacking right after a breakup.

Agree w the first two paragraphs. I think men really do put more effort and importance on their relationships (which completely goes against traditional 'norms' that men lack emotion and just wanna fck).
I seriously believe that most men will have far fewer relationships in their lifetimes than women will.

It's almost as if men put themselves out there, give it their all, and hope that the female returns the favor - then it ultimately lies in the hands of the female to prove the relationship matters to her on an equal level, and she reciprocates, or bounces.
Seems pretty "beta" (lol), yet very common.

[chrisjd]

wow, what a meaningfull and fulfilling life

Just be aware so that you don't fall into a trap like that.

The subject matter of this thread is nothing new to me, which is why I am very cautious with new girls. I can and do find these things out and if I know she is constantly jumping around I immediately cut things off.

[ne12o]

I have 99 problems but a bitch ain't one.

[Al_Pal]

well F u janky

[anklez]

Just be aware so that you don't fall into a trap like that.

The subject matter of this thread is nothing new to me, which is why I am very cautious with new girls. I can and do find these things out and if I know she is constantly jumping around I immediately cut things off.

neither is it to me. I would jsut like to point out the lack of fullfillment and true hapiness this style of life carries. you will be bitter until the day you die.

no matter how well you hide it, or how much you are able to convince yourself otherwise. when you have to lie to yourslef, you know your life sucks.

[aosch]

Mainly because I don't need a woman to emotionally fufill me. Make them work, utilize 3 holes as appropriate.

Brb being a bad person.

[janky]

Well I think there is a lot of reasons for this, but one huge one which I experienced and my friends have also is this;

A man falls out of love with his woman in the relationship, but continues to stay with her for easy sex. As he now has just been in a relationship his main focus is not "getting into another one", its simply sex. He realizes she was not meant for him, and this is not what he wants.

When a woman falls out of love in a relationship, she realizes that her partner was not meant for her, and she will try to find another man to "try" a relationship with. Relationships for women are more of a doorway to see if love exists inside or not.

Therefore when a man is in a failing relationship, he is more likely to cheat, or continue the relationship for sex. While a woman will either cheat, or actively look for a replacement.

A majority of men know that "sex" is hard to come by as a single man, so he would keep the lady around simply for more sex.

I think this is ridiculously accurate. You're an excellent writer brah. check pm's.

Do you think the playing field would shift if the man in question were fully capable of landing gorgeous women nonstop?
For example; a local celebrity, male fitness model, player, etc.

guys dont like to "give up" on anything much less a relationship.

however I will say that when ever I wil say that when My feelings for a girl change i do usually have a bcakup whether I was looking for it or not. I do intentionally monkey branch when I know a girl is up to something. They are being suspicious, I know something is going on, they won't confess.... they dump me.... That night I'm with next girl. the now x-girl friend gets pissed and goes to hell about how insensitive I am blah, blah, blah. Men are always the ones to blame, and always guilty of everything. blah, blah, blah.

Don't like their own medicine huh?

Because if you are always looking for something better and hopping back n forth, you're going to end up alone. Relationships are hard work.

I'm not disagreeing with that, but women don't seem to adopt this mentality.

Simple men dont emotionaly cheat like women do.

i wouldn't say that's entirely true. Men "emotionally" cheat in the sense that when a women flirts with them and they're in a relationship, most won't simply "ignore it" or "turn it off" they'll fck with it a bit until it gets too real then be like "sorry I have a gf" -- or cheat lol

men are slower to fall in and out of love, and will usually fight much harder to save an existing relationship instead of just saying fuk it and finding a new one.

its also much more common for men to cheat with other women, while having ZERO intentions of ever leaving their main chick. Women who cheat, much more often leave their man for the new guy that they are cheating with.

basically, we dont fall for our side chick like women do their side dick.

Always a quality post brah. Repped.
"Grass is Greener" theory eh?

Reminds me of "If I get caught cheatin then I'm stuck with you.." lol

lol so true

usually men find it easier to separate emotions from sex

They're completely different!!!!!
It's like sandwiches and beer.
Have nothing to do with each other. You can have a beer with your sandwich, sure. But ultimately, they are totally separate and unrelated!

I disagree. Any woman attractive enough to be jumping around a lot will always have an option open to them to settle down with. I've known some women that are constantly jumping around and as they got older they sure didn't end up single. They just ended up with either the richest guy they could find or the first one that knocked them up.

I've seen that a lot too, and it's pretty sad.

Guys do this all the time though.

I know I've been guilty of it.

Has nothing to do with emotions and everything to do with just wanting steady sex. I don't want to leave my chick if I'm still getting good booty from her until some new booty is in the equation to replace the old booty.

in a sexual context yes, but what about in a relationship context?
Would you get tired of your current partner and dump her for new booty if it were, say, a 2 year long relationship?

They probably jump around because they are trying to find the absolute best option.

I think about my options but it doesn't always pan out and I end up single for awhile.

Yeah. See, to me that's a childish mentality. "Oh there may be something better, so I'll just take this for now until that something better falls in my lap!"
wtf is that sht.

[George Costanza]

My $0.02...at least in my experiences...

I find that a lot of guys don't put a lot of stock in behavior over a period of time, as in...we let things roll off our backs more than most women. For me and for many other guys, a breakup occurs from our standpoint when one or two things that are just over-the-top disrespectful happens...and a lot of guys (be it right or wrong) have enough confidence in the "well I can just let her go now, there'll be another one in a few days/weeks" whereas women can't stand the fact that they may be along for x amount of time unless they really want to be.

Again, speaking in huge generalizations but it's just from personal experience.

[Al_Pal]

Always a quality post brah. Repped.
"Grass is Greener" theory eh?

Reminds me of "If I get caught cheatin then I'm stuck with you.." lol
.

haha. yep i posted that whole verse the other day and sad it is basically me and my game in a nutshell from start to finish.


i wish i wasnt to lazy 2 read the other responses in this thread and join in on an actual discussion...

one of these days...