My advice during a cut is to go as long as you can cold turkey. When you break down and decide to drink, make it whiskey, drink heavy not light. Drink about a half a bottle. The next morning your stomach, not used to eating much let alone hard alcohol in massive doses, will feel like such hell that you'll vomit everywhere and have one of the worst days of your life.
You won't want to drink again for quite some time. Problem solved. Eat some quaker oats and go back to bed.
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08-03-2010, 05:55 AM #31
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08-03-2010, 08:03 AM #32
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This is actually a good idea. When i was drinking for the first time my counselor kept feeding me alcohol and pushing me drinks. The next morning when i woke up feeling like death and still quite drunk I asked him why on earth he would do such a thing, i could've died. He told me so that i'd respect alcohol's power and learn moderation if not outright never drink again. lol
I didn't learn my lesson :\
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08-03-2010, 08:42 AM #33
Did not read.
Not going to take alcohol advice from someone not old enough to drink. In general, I don't take any advice from anyone not old enough to drink.“The Misc. is a stone-faced Uncle Sam with Popeye’s forearms and a cocked pistol in each hand. It’s a screeching bald eagle with a foreign Bad Thing in its talons. It’s everything that defines America’s bro culture, magnified and weaponized. But it’s deeper than that.“
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08-03-2010, 08:48 AM #34
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08-03-2010, 08:54 AM #35
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took long enough but...
InAfterAge=notlegal
I don't ask anyone to take my advice, just offering what i know. Thanks for such a contributive post, sir. You've enlightened us by sharing your wealth of experience and knowledge.
Now please gtfo, this is just spam now.
Teens, we get no respect (in b4 September birthday ;o)
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08-03-2010, 09:18 AM #36
Me like beer no affect brain. What question ?
Beer's the thing that's been hardest for me to give up, but I've never been a heavy drinker.
I just like craft beer, especially IPA's, but one is to satisfy the craving ( I've never been into DRUNK)
I shoot for Friday and Saturday nights now, and try to fit it into my macros, but generally,
there are health benefits to moderate consumption ( as I under stand it).
Most people that are asking 'can I drink' seem to drink excessively and want someone to tell them "sure, it's ok"
On the other hand, "all work and no beer make homer go crazy'"The two kinds of people, on earth I mean, are the people who lift and the people who lean."
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08-03-2010, 02:22 PM #38
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I am having a dilemma.
I have been on a program in its second week. Going real well.
However I have a "beer festival" Friday, and one of my best friends' bachelor party the following Saturday.
Socially, I am pretty much committed to going to these and having some beers.
What I plan on doing is planning the entire day's nutrition the day before. I am going to try to land my calorie intake right where it is for my program.... including the beer I drink. I am going to pack most of my days' food as close to the events as possible. Im also going to put a cap on my number of drinks and spread them out.
I really have to be careful. Im on a pretty good roll and this is a good way to have a couple terrible days and reverse some hard work. Its also possible to completely fall off the program mentally.Cut
June 3 - ?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=154489543
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08-03-2010, 02:57 PM #39
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It's possible. DO NOT SWEAT FALLING OFF.
It happens to everyone eventually (I was one of those guys who would scoff @ cheating claiming infinite motivation. Hunger is a primal instinct, hard to ignore) .
Good to put a cap. Be sure you get minimum protein requirement. It's not a bad idea what you're doing so gjdm. Special events like this don't happen every day or even every month (and if they do you're doing something wrong lol)
Holy crap mods actually cleaned this thread up. GJDM(ods) !! Thanks. Now i can go back to being substantially altruistic and donating my time to those in need ! (kidding, not THAT self-absorbed)
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08-04-2010, 12:40 AM #40
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08-04-2010, 03:35 AM #41
This article has been very helpful for me. It covers everything about drinking while cutting and how to deal with it.
http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html
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08-04-2010, 04:56 AM #42
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08-04-2010, 09:29 PM #44
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01-18-2011, 04:35 PM #45
Alcohol does not put on fat. Your body can't convert alcohol into fat. You just don't burn fat until all of the alcohol is burned off. People get fat from drinking because they eat before all the alcohol is burned off and none of that food is being burned, the alcohol is because the body prioritizes burning it.
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01-18-2011, 04:39 PM #46
Exactly. Just as the other poster posted:
http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html
Ya'll can enjoy being hermits and sippin back on bottle of waters while I'm gettin hammered on the weekends.
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01-19-2011, 04:17 AM #47
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01-19-2011, 06:51 AM #50
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Alcohol = calories that dehydrate you and make you hungry
Drink all you want, just make up for it by creating a big deficit..
bad for muscle growth/protein synthesis->yes
bad for cutting-> yes
is losing fat and drinking doable ==yes
unless your entering a contest, there's no reason you should put off having fun and going crazy.
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01-19-2011, 07:55 AM #51
I have friends that drink 4-5 days a week, smoke weed and work out. They look lean and athletic (IMO what most women like). I agree that it's pretty stupid to train for mega gains if your a constant party goer. From studies, Alcohol seems to be a big no no, but unless you're trying to compete, all this obsessive behavior kind of takes away from having fun in your life for a lot of people.
On a side note, I really do believe that Body Building can turn people's lives around that are effected by Drugs and Alcohol simply because of the obsessive behavior and strive to better ones self physically -- and mentally.
Contradicting? lol
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01-19-2011, 03:06 PM #52
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10-17-2011, 10:55 PM #54
Hypothetical situation:
I eat 200g protein the night before. The day of, I eat 100g protein in the morning. (also some fats in there, but maybe 50gmax) fast until party
FASTED
That night, I show up, have 5 shots (~500Cals with water and lime) (BAC 0 in 10 hours)
Fasted = high asborption rate = less alchohol for desired effect (?)
Wake up next morning, drink some water/tea/black coffee (0 cal)
by noon the next day, any calories consumed should be used efficiently.
Dis right here!
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03-29-2012, 10:32 PM #59
Funny you mention Miller Lite as this is the beer I drink because of the low 96 cals per 12 oz. Simple equation... Calories in and calories out
I'm a calorie counting freak and nothing changes when I go out with friends or on a date. Usually I'll know ahead of time and keep my calories low until the evening when I have my big meal. Once out and about I'll keep track of each drink via the calculator in my phone and MyFitnessPal. I'll leave myself between 500-700 cals to blow on drinks. It's cool because in a way it keeps you from getting sloppy drunk but coming home after drinking and not eating can be hard. That's when I'll just go to sleep.
I'll usually keep the cal intake the day after below avg, too. Knock on wood haven't had a week where I haven't lost weight yet.
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05-29-2012, 07:03 AM #60
GLASS, and I emphasize "glass" of red wine has negligible effects on protein synthesis, not to mention many health benefits. Controlled intake of red wine weekly or even daily will not noticeably hinder gains/increase fat on a bulk (if the wine fits in calories).
On a proper cut you would like to avoid alcohol all together unless you have like a MASSIVE event and it would be considered MORE THAN seriously anti-social to not drink.
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