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    Muscles getting STRONGER, HARDER, smaller... WTF?!!

    My arm muscles are getting STRONGER, HARDER, smaller... WTF?!! Was it just fat in muscle? Maybe I am more fast twitch?

    So I am on a deficit, and have been for a long time. I had a lot of fat to loose. I plan to stop cutting come July when I should hit about 8% bf. Right now I am at 10% (not exaggerated). I can finally clearly see my 6 pack without flexing. This is down from 30% bf in December 2009.

    I want to cycle between 6-8 after cutting and 10-12 after bulking.

    Honestly though, I can do weighted dips 5 sets of 5 at 290 lbs (weighing myself and adding a dumbbell between my legs). I use a 501 tempo and go deep with good form. That is up from from 245 last month. Gains like this are pretty much there in all lifts.

    Note: my protien grams are around 1.25 per lb of body weight each day. And my recovery is good.
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    Yeah, aint' that a bitch

    Losing the fat, building muscle.

    The cool thing is when they go back up to where they were before, but instead of fat it's muscle. Also, don't forget you'll weigh MORE when that happens, b/c muscle weighs more.

    That's why they say don't look at weight for fat loss, look at BF%.
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    Originally Posted by styken View Post
    Yeah, aint' that a bitch

    Losing the fat, building muscle.

    The cool thing is when they go back up to where they were before, but instead of fat it's muscle. Also, don't forget you'll weigh MORE when that happens, b/c muscle weighs more.

    That's why they say don't look at weight for fat loss, look at BF%.

    Ya it is... The skin on the arms were tight, I looked buff in the arms, per my picture, and a they were an inch bigger unpumped. I guess I am still learning a lot about this stuff.
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    Happened to me too just recently. I just lost some size in my biceps (which is discouraging because I was already unhappy with their size). I was convinced they suddenly got weaker somehow, but in my last bicep workout I had some of my best lifts ever. I don't get it. They got smaller but stronger.
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    Same here. Been cutting for a while (dropped 25lbs so far) and my arms lost almost an inch. (just flexing, not pumped). So I did a workout, measured again, and there we go, size was still there. Pumped I gain a little over an inch.

    So I'm guessing fat loss from the arms themselves, not muscle loss. Keep up the good work!
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    The amount of fat a person has is very underestimated. I can attest to this...
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    Originally Posted by BBLou View Post
    The amount of fat a person has is very underestimated. I can attest to this...
    Yes, I am finding this out. BTW, good job on keeping things up! I checked out your stats and see you really work at it.
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    Originally Posted by BBLou View Post
    The amount of fat a person has is very underestimated. I can attest to this...
    How true. At 260 I thought "if I lose 25lbs I'll be ripped!" Well, I'm lost 30 and realized I have at least 20 more to go. (well, maybe 40 since I was so off before with my estimation).
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    Originally Posted by BBLou View Post
    The amount of fat a person has is very underestimated. I can attest to this...
    Unfortunately true.

    Originally Posted by ChimarraoMate View Post
    My arm muscles are getting STRONGER, HARDER, smaller... WTF?!! Was it just fat in muscle? Maybe I am more fast twitch?

    So I am on a deficit, and have been for a long time. I had a lot of fat to loose. I plan to stop cutting come July when I should hit about 8% bf. Right now I am at 10% (not exaggerated). I can finally clearly see my 6 pack without flexing. This is down from 30% bf in December 2009.

    I want to cycle between 6-8 after cutting and 10-12 after bulking.

    Honestly though, I can do weighted dips 5 sets of 5 at 290 lbs (weighing myself and adding a dumbbell between my legs). I use a 501 tempo and go deep with good form. That is up from from 245 last month. Gains like this are pretty much there in all lifts.

    Note: my protien grams are around 1.25 per lb of body weight each day. And my recovery is good.
    When you lose BF going to lose size in your arms, legs, etc. Happens to me everytime. But goal is to look better, not be bigger, for me when cutting.

    Real struggle for me below 10%. I keep bouncing around 9% and have been for months. I cant have any cheat meals, miss cardio, etc or I bounce right back.
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    Yeah,

    Same thing happened to me and my chest. I used to be very barrel-chested and chest heavy but I carried a lot of fat around them. They are stronger than they have ever been but I'm guessing I've lost about half the mass in my chest at least. Before it was mostly fat/some muscle now its the other way around. Damn, can't seem to get the last bit of fat off of them. But they appear more ripped, so losing size sucks a little but looking more fit and toned compensates.
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    The women in the female section complain about the same issue, but in a different way. They say they are getting "bulky" because they are building muscle under the fat. Its not the muscle making them look that way, its the fat on top. When you start leaning out, its actually not such a pleasant surprise to see how little muscle is actually there under the fat!
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    Originally Posted by dochuge View Post
    Yeah,

    Same thing happened to me and my chest. I used to be very barrel-chested and chest heavy but I carried a lot of fat around them. They are stronger than they have ever been but I'm guessing I've lost about half the mass in my chest at least. Before it was mostly fat/some muscle now its the other way around. Damn, can't seem to get the last bit of fat off of them. But they appear more ripped, so losing size sucks a little but looking more fit and toned compensates.
    Ya... This one has got me too. The only thing that increased in size was my legs. I guess running for an hour every day is going to do that. Getting where I want to be is going to take a few more years of cycling. Not so worried about the work, because the gym is the best part of my day, but years is just far away.
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