Primordial Performance

[SoCool]

Why did BB stop carrying their products? Are there still reps here?

[nni]

legality?

[PinchTheBear]

legality?

This... bb.com discontinued many companies that were/are prominent in the PH/DS game. Most of them make awesome non-hormonal products, so it's a shame.

[SwolenONE]

This... bb.com discontinued many companies that were/are prominent in the PH/DS game. Most of them make awesome non-hormonal products, so it's a shame.

agreed, primordial is on their sh-t regarding their peptopro, toco 8, their natty T boosters.

[curs3]

i thought the story goes that pp pulled themselves out because bb.com wasn't paying the bill.

[PinchTheBear]

i thought the story goes that pp pulled themselves out because bb.com wasn't paying the bill.

Not sure of the history. Either way, it's unfortunate.

[huge908]

i thought the story goes that pp pulled themselves out because bb.com wasn't paying the bill.

Also what I heard, BB has bill payment issues. I dont know if it was them not paying I think they wanted a large stock of product than wanted to paid as each was sold....or something along the lines.

[DGreekStallion]

Primordial= Awesome.

[WIULifter]

Primordial= Awesome.

did you get that sample?

[StringerrBell]

they also sell bulk glycocarn which is awesome

[huge908]

They sell a lot of awesome things!

[BigPapiJR]

Primordial products probably make up 75% of the crap I use on a daily basis. I'd love to see them back in the cyberstore.

[DGreekStallion]

did you get that sample?

I meant to thank you, yeah I got it man.

Thanks a lot.

[huge908]

Can't wait to see some of the new rumored products coming out aka "Muscle Feeder" =)

[RosieCheeScott]

Primordial products probably make up 75% of the crap I use on a daily basis. I'd love to see them back in the cyberstore.

You just might in the future! If you haven't already heard, we are discontinuing our prohormonal products.

And before everything gets out of hand from speculation:

No FDA or DEA has asked us (or forced us) to do anything.
There is no new ownership.
We are not replacing our PH products with "herbals".
PP is not self destructing.

If you guys want the brutal truth, here it is -

Over the past several months we've been working on a new product line, but we ran out of money to do anything with them. This put us in a tough situation. We had a lot of funds invested in a project, but not enough to follow it through. It was bad budgeting and planing on our behalf, so we had to make a big bet.

I can tell you this much, these new products are using ingredients and delivery systems this industry has never seen before. We are cashing out on some good products, to re-invest in even better products, thats the truth. But we cant just say "great products are coming" because they wont be coming unless this sale does really well.

We aren't abandoning you guys. In fact, we need our consumers to make it over this hump. Your support goes a long way.

Can't wait to see some of the new rumored products coming out aka "Muscle Feeder" =)

Get excited, guys, because there is a brand new era coming. Lots of innovation and progress on the horizon!

For those super loyal customers who need-to-know, let me share a few gritty details:

In addition to investments made into new projects, the company wide restaffing, restructuring and implementation of GMP put a real financial burden on PP over the past year. A lot of supplement companies have recently gone bankrupt for similar reasons (or are currently in the process of). Admittedly we are going through hard times, but growing pains are sometimes a necessity for laying down a solid foundation.

In the process of all the restructuring we've managed to accrue a highly skilled and dedicated staff (including a brilliant in house chemist). We also just finished implementing a new manufacturing/accounting/inventory system along with new manufacturing equipment.

The only motives here is to sell the best products possible. Sure we could sell out to VC's and raise capitol but loosing control of the company is the last thing we want. Discontinuing the current PH line wasn't an easy decision, but it was an affirmative one. We are putting all our eggs into a single basket and making a leap to reach what we consider will be an industry best for testosterone centric products.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman

[ACE79]

Id love to try their Dermacrine and Androhard some day....and from the news I better do it soon.

[nni]

this is a huge gamble and a huge claim obviously. im skeptical obviously, but in order to make long term money the move to "legitimacy" is a necessary one.

[athenrye]

You just might in the future! If you haven't already heard, we are discontinuing our prohormonal products.

Best of luck then but a few other companies discontinued their hormonal lines a while ago but never got taken back on at bb.com. I think while the PH's are still out there being sold in any stores bb.com won't let the company back even though they've stopped making them. That's what it's looked like to me.

[ACE79]

Best of luck then but a few other companies discontinued their hormonal lines a while ago but never got taken back on at bb.com. I think while the PH's are still out there being sold in any stores bb.com won't let the company back even though they've stopped making them. That's what it's looked like to me.

Why does BB.com carry LG's PH's?

[wayprotein]

agreed, primordial is on their sh-t regarding their peptopro, toco 8, their natty T boosters.

They sell a lot of awesome things!

^^ exactly i wanted to try their peptopro product but bb.com does not carry would be awsome if they did.

[athenrye]

Why does BB.com carry LG's PH's?

AFAIK they're all DSHEA compliant the same as the 1-Andro products in stock. I could be wrong but it just seems to me that anyone with PH's still out there isn't selling on bb.com any more. Look at CEL, IBE and iForce. I thought AMS were gone too but they've got one product allowed, their BCAA powder, so it could be other reasons I suppose.

[RosieCheeScott]

Id love to try their Dermacrine and Androhard some day....and from the news I better do it soon.

Yep - before they're gone for good . . .

this is a huge gamble and a huge claim obviously. im skeptical obviously...

Life is made on gambles and nothing is achieved without first taking a risk. Progress is not made without change, and closing one door opens up new opportunities and possibilities. Eric knows what he's doing. I wouldn't have become part of the company if I didn't believe in it >100%!

[Peter LeDrew]

I hope Pp make a return here. They have some truely awesome formulas and that's no bs. More often than not, using science-backed ingredients and full disclosure of ingredients and dosing.

Heck, look at EndoAmp or their pre-workout... nothing touches those or even comes close to the dosing and ingredients... of course the price is often higher, but this industry often blows anyways, esp. when you go all out and then people just support cheaper ineffective over hyped crapola. Honestly, this industry truely blows in massive proportions and the lack of support for superior products is exactly why. Kiddies rule this kingdom.

[em-dubya]

I hope Pp make a return here. They have some truely awesome formulas and that's no bs. More often than not, using science-backed ingredients and full disclosure of ingredients and dosing.

Heck, look at EndoAmp or their pre-workout... nothing touches those or even comes close to the dosing and ingredients... of course the price is often higher, but this industry often blows anyways, esp. when you go all out and then people just support cheaper ineffective over hyped crapola. Honestly, this industry truely blows in massive proportions and the lack of support for superior products is exactly why. Kiddies rule this kingdom.

They have never once released ANY COAs on any of their products ! At one time they were a good company but then they wanted to be they Musclerech of PHs w/ their BS claims.

Dermacrine=$50 DHEA ....LMAO

[tylerdurden92]

Bb.com seems to play favorites.... est still has tons of phs still on the market and is still in the store, but yet companies like e-pharm got the boot.... I tthink there is a lot of politics involved?

[em-dubya]

I wish they would have done the industry a favor and stop selling Liver Juice

[RosieCheeScott]

Bb.com seems to play favorites.... est still has tons of phs still on the market and is still in the store, but yet companies like e-pharm got the boot.... I tthink there is a lot of politics involved?

This industry is like every other, and there is always politics involved - it's an inescapable fact.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman

[RosieCheeScott]

Just letting you know that if you want to get something, you'd better get it fast, while there's still some stock left! We've broken our sales records each day for the last 3 days in a row, actually overselling our NONdiscontinued items - which has slowed down shipment of orders (but we will still endeavour to stick to our 72-hour shipping time).

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman

[manofmany]

WTF was Primordial thinking?

[bomb1977]

Id love to try their Dermacrine and Androhard some day....and from the news I better do it soon.

I've never used one of their products, I've never used any type of a PH. But in my off and on research over the last year or so on the topic, I can honestly say that their products work.

I believe they have a sale on the main site where if you buy 4 you get 40% off. Not a bad deal if you have a buddy that wants to split with you. I'm outta luck, they don't ship to Canada. Oh well...

Their biggest issue wasn't the quailty of their product, that has always seemed to be good. It's the price of their product that did them in. No matter how good your product is on a product that isn't patented, you're going to get cloned and undercut sooner rather than later.

The price point that CEL products are selling for online right now, really leaves very little room for competition.

It's too bad because this is the one company that could have potentially made something as potent as Superdol someday, without all of the crazy side effects.

I highly recommend them as much as a person that has never used their products can.