Is a 1g/lb protein intake daily unhealthy over a long time?

[Naregde]

Well my girlfriend and her Mother are critisizing my diet. They think that that much protein will kill my kidneys and that i´ll get sick in a few years.
I am eating 160 g-180 protein, 70 g of fat and 150 g of carbs daily and drinking 4 liters of water daily.

Are there any long-term studies or studies in general that say that 1 g protein / lb bodyweight daily does not have a bad effect? Or does it really have a bad effect?

[rhizome]

Well my girlfriend and her Mother are critisizing my diet. They think that that much protein will kill my kidneys and that i´ll get sick in a few years.
I am eating 160 g-180 protein, 70 g of fat and 150 g of carbs daily and drinking 4 liters of water daily.

Are there any long-term studies or studies in general that say that 1 g protein / lb bodyweight daily does not have a bad effect? Or does it really have a bad effect?

[Ironwake]

Don't you think if eating 1g/lb of protein was unhealthy, 99% of this site would have kidney problems?

Theres people on here eating 1.5-2g/lb...

[Naregde]

yeah i know. But i´d like to have studies to prove them wrong.

But thanks anyways!

[desslok]

1g isn't much. Only study I can personally vouch for is the study I did on myself over the past 23 years or so at at least the level you are talking about or higher(at times 2g). Pretty sure I could find flaws with their diets though...

[Ironwake]

yeah i know. But i´d like to have studies to prove them wrong.

But thanks anyways!

Most of the studies you'll find will be about inactive individuals, since that is the majority of the world. I was looking for you, and I saw a M.d. recommending .4g/lb of protein.... or 15% of your diet.

[Zensuji]

Well my girlfriend and her Mother are critisizing my diet. They think that that much protein will kill my kidneys and that i´ll get sick in a few years.

They've convinced me. I'm defo going to stop.

[BULLandTERRIER]

They've convinced me. I'm defo going to stop.

Don't forget to stop creatine too,his girlfriend and her mother think that creatine will kill your pancreas.

[Xx_Chop_xX]

They've convinced me. I'm defo going to stop.

[Dujin77]

For the most part, all the studies regarding high protein diets and their relation to kidney health are conducted on people who already have some sort of renal disease, or are a group of individuals randomly selected to participate in the study. Given the average person is relatively inactive these studies do not reflect the effects of protein on a trained body that under goes the stress of training on a frequent basis. I've been eating 1.5g/lb or more for about 3 years now and my kidneys are fine. I think it was but best earlier, if it was bad 99 percent of the people on the forums would have bad kidneys by now. That is proof enough for me.

[Itadienekes]

Well my girlfriend and her Mother are critisizing my diet. They think that that much protein will kill my kidneys and that i´ll get sick in a few years.
I am eating 160 g-180 protein, 70 g of fat and 150 g of carbs daily and drinking 4 liters of water daily.

Are there any long-term studies or studies in general that say that 1 g protein / lb bodyweight daily does not have a bad effect? Or does it really have a bad effect?

My non-professional input: I only have 1 working kidney, I've been eating 1+g/lbs of protein and using the evil creatine for almost 6 years now and have had no problems whatsoever. I don't even do the 2+gallons daily like many people suggest doing - sometimes i get tired of it and have 2-3 Liters/day for weeks a time, then I bump back to 1-2gallons/day.

[ezjax]

turn the food pyramid upside down and you can get BIG SON

[Naregde]

thanks everybody. I think I just wont listen to them. As they are eating approx. 20g of protein a day

[TBU720]

If you pee clear fluid, you wont hurt your kidneys.

But if you dont drink enough to pee clear, there will be higher levels of ammonia in your body.

Just drink water, really. Easy enough...

[Zensuji]

thanks everybody. I think I just wont listen to them. As they are eating approx. 20g of protein a day

But what about their sound science and reasoning? you cant just dismiss this in a blink of an eye!!!!!!!!!11111111111

[ThickAsABrick]

But what about their sound science and reasoning? you cant just dismiss this in a blink of an eye!!!!!!!!!11111111111

I just heard from a guy in my office that blinking is bad for your liver.

[GorillaGenetics]

im doing a minimum of 400 grams a day right now and ive been doing this for about 6 months

[rmatthew987]

from what i have read and heard from different peoples that have been training or are personal trainers 1g of protein per lb is not bad at all for you as long as you drink enough water. also correct me if this is wrong, your body can only use 40-50g of protein per hour and the extra will just be wasted and expelled as you will poooop more often.

[TehMan]

Theres people on here eating 1.5-2g/lb...

i belong to these people eat about 263g's of proteens a day, yes athletic star kids ranging from 13-19 years old

I just heard from a guy in my office that blinking is bad for your liver.

oh noes!!!

[1ADPechal]

I am in the upper 190's protein a day. No problems But I understand where your coming from and wanting to know the facts.

[palumboism]

Its 1g per lean pounds fools. So if you are 200lbs but 15% bf you only need to support 170 lean pounds. You dont need protein to support fat![quote]

[_XYDREX_]

Its 1g per lean pounds fools. So if you are 200lbs but 15% bf you only need to support 170 lean pounds. You dont need protein to support fat!

The 1g/lb is just a guide, its not an exact figure based on any ratio calculations you are implying. It is purely empirical based from observations. Some people do better on more, some people need less. Using your logic, where do you draw the line? Yes you dont need protein to support fat, but you also dont need protein to support water either. And man is afterall 80% water!

Don't forget to stop creatine too,his girlfriend and her mother think that creatine will kill your pancreas.

Thats if he doesnt kill them first from creatine rage.

[Zensuji]

Thats if he doesnt kill them first from creatine rage.

Good point. OP keep an eye on your balls.

[Aeries]

Well my girlfriend and her Mother are critisizing my diet. They think that that much protein will kill my kidneys and that i´ll get sick in a few years.
I am eating 160 g-180 protein, 70 g of fat and 150 g of carbs daily and drinking 4 liters of water daily.

Are there any long-term studies or studies in general that say that 1 g protein / lb bodyweight daily does not have a bad effect? Or does it really have a bad effect?

The sports nutrition books I've read recommend not to go over 3g per kg of bodyweight due to increased risk of arterioscerosis, increased blood lipoproteins, dehydration and possible kidney damage. With that in mind its very hard to consume as much protein as that anyway.

I wouldn't worry about it. I'd recommend upping the carbs to allow for a better level of muscle glycogen which will help with your training as well as recovery. At the moment your consuming between 1870kcal-1950kcal a day. Your approximate bmr is 1875. Try to consume another 500 kcal and you'll find it easier to bulk. If you consume say another 125 grams of carbs that'll make up the 500 kcal.

[bonkerzzz]

Just stick to 1g per lb. Anything over is a waste, even 1g per lb is pushing it as you only have a certain amount of lean muscle, and the rest is fat. Its just an easy way to support growth without having to work out exact amounts.

High protein wont damage your kidneys either, just ignore them.

[Aeries]

High protein wont damage your kidneys either, just ignore them.

Very high protein intakes like I mentioned MAY damage kidneys. As I said its hard to consume high enough amounts to do that so really there isn't anything to worry about.

[jorgerod]

I just heard from a guy in my office that blinking is bad for your liver.

Really? I heard it caused erectile dysfunction.

Just stick to 1g per lb. Anything over is a waste, even 1g per lb is pushing it as you only have a certain amount of lean muscle, and the rest is fat.

WHAT???? are you kidding me? While most people can do good with 1g x Lbs, That might be to low for others, I'm sure that PBateman consumes more than 1g x Lbs to bulk as many other here. These type of broad comments is the reason Bro Science is so strong.

Jorge

[dizzay20]

WHAT???? are you kidding me? While most people can do good with 1g x Lbs, That might be to low for others, I'm sure that PBateman consumes more than 1g x Lbs to bulk as many other here. These type of broad comments is the reason Bro Science is so strong.

Jorge

the broscience is strong.....from u. Show me one definative study proving that 1g/lb of BW is even necessary for gaining mass, and no, showing big guys and saying that they consume X ammount of protein isnt really proof unless they have actually tried going on a lower protein diet. Protein has been WAY over exaggerated so supps companies can benefit from it. Unless ur on roids, 1g/lb of BW IS pushing it.

[egotti]

1g/lb is barely maintenance for me... everyones different. I promise you that 0.36g/lb is not nearly enough if you want to build muscle.

[seanb1979]

I just heard from a guy in my office that blinking is bad for your liver.

good thing i have my trusty helmet