ActivateXtreme/LeanXtreme/Reversitolv2 stack question

[b3llo38]

i was wondering if stacked these 3 products is a little overkill.. ActivateXtreme/Reversitolv2 while running LeanXtreme. I take presure unleased preworkout and IntraBolic during my workout...

also what would be the best time to dose the activate/reversitol and leanxtreme

[b3llo38]

bump

[AlphaTauMuscle]

switch rev 2 for novadex for best results

[b3llo38]

i was told there was a chance of low libido, loss of sex drive with novadex..

[b3llo38]

any inputs on whats better for its AI purposes.. rev or novadex

also what would be the correct dosage for novadex.. 2 befor bed? 4 seems like to much

[FlexManlet55]

switch rev 2 for novadex for best results

These types of replies aren't very helpful when they aren't an answer to OPs question. I had alot of trouble getting ppl to stop QQing about Nova/clomid when I was aquiring about OTC PCTs.

You are no doubt being helpful but... ya know....

[b3llo38]

bump

[PinchTheBear]

bump

Not overkill. Solid stack.

[Robboe]

Not overkill. Solid stack.

This.

[aygung]

it's not the medicine nolvadex he is talking about

it's the Novedex XT from gaspari nutrition and the op doesnt' ask for a pct protocol either...
1 cap of Novedex a day (before bed or as soon as you wake up) is good and has no effect on my libido...

and no it's not overkill. I'm doing the same stack atm. (ax+lx+nxt) I made a review of the first 3 weeks. awesome results...

[VaughnTrue]

it's not the medicine nolvadex he is talking about

it's the Novedex XT from gaspari nutrition and the op doesnt' ask for a pct protocol either...
1 cap of Novedex a day (before bed or as soon as you wake up) is good and has no effect on my libido...

and no it's not overkill. I'm doing the same stack atm. (ax+lx+nxt) I made a review of the first 3 weeks. awesome results...

Have you used rv2? I doubt it.

Rv2 has the highest dose of the strongest natural ai available.

OP it's a very good stack. PM me if you have specific questions!

[greatescape]

Have you used rv2? I doubt it.

Rv2 has the highest dose of the strongest natural ai available.

OP it's a very good stack. PM me if you have specific questions!

can you compare rev2 with classic ai like atd, 6bromo, formestane etc

[VaughnTrue]

can you compare rev2 with classic ai like atd, 6bromo, formestane etc

Mg/mg it's the weakest of those...but we offset this with the 375mg dose.


It makes my libido raise which is unique(all others crush it)



6bromo would be it's closest relative from what I've tried

[PinchTheBear]

can you compare rev2 with classic ai like atd, 6bromo, formestane etc

7-methoxy is non-steroidal and naturally occurring. The three latter are all made in a lab. Rev v2 is actually a great product, granted that the I3C dose is somewhere around 100mg of that prop bled.

[VaughnTrue]

7-methoxy is non-steroidal and naturally occurring. The three latter are all made in a lab. Rev v2 is actually a great product, granted that the I3C dose is somewhere around 100mg of that prop bled.

You'll get 300mg I3C/day at full dose.


In all honesty though, just a high dose of 7mf is insanely effective.

[PinchTheBear]

You'll get 300mg I3C/day at full dose.


In all honesty though, just a high dose of 7mf is insanely effective.

I know the fully methylated flavones are significantly more metabolically stable than 7-hydroxy and 7,4'-dihydroxy, but do you have any quantitative studies on whether or not 7-methoxy's potency matches up?

I'm sure it dose, but I just want to compare it to steroidals. If you can't find anything, like I can't, even with decent google-skills... not decent enough

I'll just PM THEHUGE.

[XCriticalBenchX]

I personally would opt away from ATD based compounds due to over suppression rather than selective supression, but that is just mine. I3C is a solid ingredient, one of the best supplements on the market, supremecy by neogenix replaced their 6-bromo with I3C and it only got better, as what was done in reversitol v.2, more so because there is a real good reasoning behind it.

[PinchTheBear]

neogenix replaced their 6-bromo with I3C and it only got better, as what was done in reversitol v.2, more so because there is a real good reasoning behind it.

...continue please

[greatescape]

I personally would opt away from ATD based compounds due to over suppression rather than selective supression, but that is just mine. I3C is a solid ingredient, one of the best supplements on the market, supremecy by neogenix replaced their 6-bromo with I3C and it only got better, as what was done in reversitol v.2, more so because there is a real good reasoning behind it.

but reversitol 1 was atd+6bromo like arimatest

[XCriticalBenchX]

but reversitol 1 was atd+6bromo like arimatest

Yea? And we changed it for a reason, not for ****s and giggles

Beleive me, I understand wanting to use whats tried and proven, why change something that is not broken? I do this all the time, I get stuck in ruts and refuse to use other stuff becuase what I previously used works. For instance, I refuse to try aromasin on cycle becuase adex works good, but people are saying its safer/better. Im hard headed, what can I say, but Reversitol V.2 is in no way shape or form, inferior becuase it no longer contains 6-bromo/atd.

[b3llo38]

thanks for all the inputs guys, i think im leaning more on the end of ax,lx,rv2. im a solid fan of iforce products and im gonna stick with them and give it a shot...

as far as dosage with AX goes, is it recommended to pyramidcycle this? and more so tapper off of it twords the end?

AX..
week 1- 2pills
weeks 2,4- 3pills
weeks 5,6- 2 pills
or is 3 pills a day for 6 weeks the best way to go about this?

and dose rv2 as stated on the bottle the entire time?

also whats the best time for LeanXtreme? morning and nights? midday? befor meals?

[iForce Dave]

thanks for all the inputs guys, i think im leaning more on the end of ax,lx,rv2. im a solid fan of iforce products and im gonna stick with them and give it a shot...

as far as dosage with AX goes, is it recommended to pyramidcycle this? and more so tapper off of it twords the end?

AX..
week 1- 2pills
weeks 2,4- 3pills
weeks 5,6- 2 pills
or is 3 pills a day for 6 weeks the best way to go about this?

and dose rv2 as stated on the bottle the entire time?

also whats the best time for LeanXtreme? morning and nights? midday? befor meals?

Yea run the RV2 at 2 caps before bed and 1 in the morning before breakfast

ir 1 before bed and 2 with breakfast.

either way works!

[PinchTheBear]

No need to taper ActX.

• ActX: 4/4/4/4 >>> 2 | 2 :: AM | PM with out without food

• LX: 3/3/3/3 >>> 1 | 1 | 1 :: Wake-up | Midday | Pre-bed with or without food

• Rev v2: 3/3/3/3 >>> 1 | 2 :: Wake-up | Pre-bed with or without food

[Mero1991]

Iam on day 23 on AX/Rv2 stack and Iam enjoying it so far !!! recovery time has cut down to half ,always full of energy ,my libido is insane!! my strength is way up!! I starting to feel more cut! I also did blood work pre and will do after 6 week cycle.

[papagunz]

I Force guys, would it make more sense to switch the 2 cap dose to the morning? My logic is that test levels are higher in the morning and we'd want to maximally mitigate the conversion to estrogen by using a higher AI dose (2 caps vs 1) at this point in time.

[b3llo38]

I Force guys, would it make more sense to switch the 2 cap dose to the morning? My logic is that test levels are higher in the morning and we'd want to maximally mitigate the conversion to estrogen by using a higher AI dose (2 caps vs 1) at this point in time.

he does make a good point here...

also its best to run for 6 weeks not just 4 weeks correct?

[XCriticalBenchX]

I Force guys, would it make more sense to switch the 2 cap dose to the morning? My logic is that test levels are higher in the morning and we'd want to maximally mitigate the conversion to estrogen by using a higher AI dose (2 caps vs 1) at this point in time.

You do make a solid point, but I would still recommend dosing how the label says, 2 at night.

Mike

[PinchTheBear]

I Force guys, would it make more sense to switch the 2 cap dose to the morning? My logic is that test levels are higher in the morning and we'd want to maximally mitigate the conversion to estrogen by using a higher AI dose (2 caps vs 1) at this point in time.

Melatonin naturally inhibits aromatase and is at its peak roughly 2-4AM in the average adult. The 7-methoxy can act in conjunction with Melatonin to inhibit aromatase while you sleep.

However, 7-methoxy has a relatively short half-life, so it would make sense to switch the dosage.

Another however:

Intuitively, if testosterone is highest in the morning and lowest at night, it would follow that endocrine homeostasis = highest estrogen at night, meaning aromatase inhibition would be most necessary.

[papagunz]

Intuitively, if testosterone is highest in the morning and lowest at night, it would follow that endocrine homeostasis = highest estrogen at night, meaning aromatase inhibition would be most necessary.

I [think] the bulk of estrogen production in men is peripheral conversion via aromatase. Which makes my thinking more like, highest test and highest estrogen in the morning, lowest test and lowest estrogen at night. (who knows, I could be way off) However, as test elevates aromatase will then have more substrate to act upon.

Melatonin naturally inhibits aromatase and is at its peak roughly 2-4AM in the average adult. The 7-methoxy can act in conjunction with Melatonin to inhibit aromatase while you sleep.

Again, this makes sense. If your melatonin peaks just before morning, and acts as an AI, it could explain (I'm certain just partly) why test levels are elevated in the morning. Just my reasoning. As always, I could totally be off base.

[PinchTheBear]

I [think] the bulk of estrogen production in men is peripheral conversion via aromatase. Which makes my thinking more like, highest test and highest estrogen in the morning, lowest test and lowest estrogen at night. As test elevates, aromatase will have more substrate to act upon.

This also makes sense, but there are other forces at work. For instance, how does the testosterone trough affect its affinity to aromatase? Does the body produce a different substrate to naturally inhibit aromatase when t is relatively low? We need NO HYPE or Bane ITT because my self-education is fail.


But yeah, papa, you're probably right on.