You can add in some rear delt and forearm work if you want but stuff like DB Flies and curl variations are not needed. Focusing on lifting heavy on BB Curl and DB Curls will lead to the most growth. Same goes with bench press. Doing sets of flies or cable crossovers are not going to recruit as many muscle fibers as heavy bench press.
Morning and after weights if you have to take it twice.
You can use this during any season
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06-25-2010, 09:24 AM #151
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06-25-2010, 09:19 PM #152
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06-25-2010, 11:55 PM #153
hi Derek,
here is my question.i've read the program and it sounds great. i plan to do my first show in may of 2011.i am 5'9" 235lbs scale says around 20-22% bf. i have alot of muscle and like most, the problem is my gut..my idea is to try to put on as much muscle i can until jan 2011 then go into contest prep..would this program be just fine or would trying to bulk at 20% bf not be ideal at this time ?? i would love your opinion..thanks
To be the man , you have to beat the man !!!
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06-26-2010, 04:16 PM #154
newbie
Hey Derek,
Im totally new to this forum but ive been lifting for about 3 years...unfortunatly with little to no gains. Ive tried various programs (5x5, body part splits, full body workouts, etc) but nothing seems to be working. Im thinking of giving this 12 week program a try but i had a few questions prior to starting:
-I read your previous bulking articles that you wrote as a teen. In those, you follow a 6 day body part split program. Judging by your progress pics, that program worked exceedingly well for you. Why should i follow this new 12 week bulking program when you previously demonstrated such good results with a different program?
-I am a really small guy (roughly 5 foot 1) with small parents (im probably finished growing). Would a huge amount of muscle make me look like a freak?
Your an inspiration,
Thanks
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06-26-2010, 07:22 PM #155
Once the 12 week program should I continue doing it and keep trying to beat my previous reps/set for each week? Or do you have another program you would recommend for me after it's over?
I have been beating my previous weeks each time so I feel good about this program and think I'm slowly seeing some results.
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06-26-2010, 09:13 PM #156
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i am going to begin with the workout
hi there
well i am going to begin with the workout and after reading the main page i have some doubts.
you recomend some suplements like whey protein,fish oil,multivitamin,and creatine.
¿i need to get all these or what are the most important.
this program works for me because i am ecto-meso?
i have diabetes is that a problem?
well i thinks thats all i hoe you can help me.
thanks
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06-27-2010, 01:03 AM #157
Interesting Question..
Hey Boss,
Hopefully this question is not inappropriate but here goes. Does total abstinence aid in the production of testosterone, thereby leading to greater muscle gains. I’ve heard mixed reviews on the subject and would like to know what the scope is. Myth or fact.. Thanks. I figured you’d know or knew someone who would.
Karl
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06-28-2010, 01:05 AM #159
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06-28-2010, 01:56 AM #160
2 questions
HI DEREK,
i am very much happy to see such sincere advises and program from you. MAY GOD BLESS YOU!
i am very soon going to start off with your program but i had 2 questions
1) i am at 185 lbs currently with a lot of belly fat. so should i consume 13 cal/lb to decrease my body and belly fat in the starting and increase the cal to 15/lb later or directly start with 15 cal/lb?
2)in weeks 5 and 11 is each set upto failure? if yes then how could one do 6 sets when the first set is upto failure?Last edited by dumborambo; 06-28-2010 at 10:51 AM.
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06-28-2010, 10:03 AM #161
Hockey training program
Alright, so I'm about 5 weeks into your program. I'm wondering if doing anymore would help with playing hockey? There's a workout routine on bodybuilding.com for hockey, but I'm not sure if I should bother to change over. This routine isnt meant to increase your quickness and things like that for hockey, so I was wondering your opinion on this. Also, if I do decide to change, should I continue with the same food style, the ratios you had, or not?
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06-28-2010, 10:49 AM #162
This program is sweet, boutta start week 4 today, already getting noticeably swole! Cant wait to do the low rep heavy lifts this week. I realize this is a bulking program, but ive added an hour of intense basketball a couple times a week along with lifting, and im losing fat like crazy. Do you think this is hindering my muscle gain?
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06-28-2010, 11:40 AM #163
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Dips are a good replacement.
If you diet hasn't been clean then cleaning up your diet while on this program could help get rid of some fat since your fat gain is mostly due to not follow a strict diet.
Me now = smarter than I was as a teen
Unless you get to a ripped 200+ lbs you won't look like a freak, though looking like a freak is what most of us inspire to look like
If you get good results on the 12-week program you could certainly run it again. Alternatively you could follow my Tri-Phase program next.
You don't have to use any supplements. Whey, Fish Oil, Creatine Monohydrate, and Multi wouldn't cost much and are the basics I would stick with.
Won't make a difference whether way and I highly doubt that is true.
The 12-Week Bulking program is perfect for you!
There are ab exercises on each lower body day.
1. You could start at 13 cals/lb and see how you respond then increase or decrease based on that.
2. The best option would be to pick a weight that you can complete all 6 sets for 3 reps. So the first couple of sets may not be to failure but the last few will be.
This routine is not sport performance based, but it will increase your overall muscle size and strength. You could use this workout for weights and then do agility training/hockey drills on your off days.
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06-28-2010, 03:16 PM #165
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I didn't know where to post this so I thought I'd ask here.....
I'm on the Solution Diet but for weight loss, not gaining. My question is, the guide says to take 1 cup of oatmeal post-workout. Since I'm not too sure how many grams 1 cup is, I looked it up in the back of the guide where there are some tables with measurements. In there it says Oatmeal - 1/4 cup or 20g. So logically thinking, that would be 80g for a cup, but that seems like a lot.....Is that correct?RDF
The pain that greets me, is the stick that beats me...
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=151219463
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06-29-2010, 08:00 AM #167
Diet
I am very grateful for your reply SIR DEREK( because u r my instructor )
i had a few more questions sir,
1) can you please give the equivalent of oz and cup in gms
2)all that is availabe to me is the chicken, brown rice and almonds. so can i use it for 4 times everyday (except for breakfast) for the 12 week program or do i need to switch to other recipies as well.
3) in order to cook the chicken breasts what other alternative i have other than grilling it?
can i fry it in 2 tsp of olive oil on a pan?
4)please give me a link to some very very easy recipies that i can take as a meal!
your reply are a great source of motivation for me
Thank you very much sir!Last edited by dumborambo; 06-29-2010 at 08:35 AM.
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06-29-2010, 11:24 AM #168
what type of cardio do you prefer for this bulking phase on wednesdays and saturdays?
is it walking at a leisurely pace? or something in that category?
just keeping heart rate at around 135-9 or Interval Training?
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and i just did the first day,
and i find myself to be not very sore although i did every set to failure.
is this because we work out each muscle twice a week?
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06-29-2010, 12:16 PM #169
Hey derek.
I was wondering if you recommend using supppliments for a 16 year old, such as a weight gainer. Also, i would probobly do sprints 1 day and plyometrics anothers on off days. is this alright or you recommend not ? Also my gym does not have the hack squat and the both the calve machines, what could i replace these by ?
Thanks !Last edited by bachand; 06-29-2010 at 02:47 PM.
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06-29-2010, 04:43 PM #170
Diet help
Hey Derek,
Just thought i'd post my diet to make sure im doing everything right...
I wiegh 133 pounds and would eventually like to wiegh 150 or more (140 pounds is the short term goal). If you have time, can you check over my diet and see if its suitable to meet my goals? Currently i have about a daily 40-40-20 balance (in terms of carbs, protein, and fats).
Breakfast
Oats: 0.75 cups
Milk (1%): 2 cups
Whole eggs: 2
Egg Whites: 4
Bannana: 1
Totals: 755 cals, 18.2 grams fat, 94.7 grams carbs, 54.4 grams protein
Lunch
Whole wheat or pumpernickel bread: 2 slices
Chicken breast: 1
Peanut butter: 1 tbsp
Totals: 384 cals, 12.1 grams fat, 35 grams carbs, 37 grams protein
Post Workout
ON Whey: 1 scoop
Milk (1%): 1.3 cups
Bannana: 1
Totals: 358 cals, 4.5 grams fat, 45.8 grams crabs, 36 grams protein
Snack
Milk (1%): 1 cup
Chicken breast: 1
Oats: 0.5 cups
Spinach (sometimes): 1 cup
Totals: 395 cals, 7.1 grams fat, 40.4 grams carbs, 40.8 grams protein
Dinner
Milk (1%): 1 cup
Chicken breast: 1
Rice: 1 cup
Peanut butter: 1 tbsp
Totals: 539 cals, 14.2 grams fat, 59 grams carbs, 43.4 grams protein
Bedtime Snack
Chicken breast: 1
Totals: 130 cals, 2 grams fat, 0 grams carbs, 27 grams protein
Daily Totals: 2562 cals, 58 grams fat, 273.4 grams carbs, 240 grams protein
Thanks for the help!
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06-29-2010, 06:21 PM #171
Hey Derek, how's everything going?
I'm Brazilian, and somehow I found this program, so I really want to try it and share my results with my buddies from a Brazilian Bodybuilding forum, but I have a few questions about the program.
1 - How long does the rest time between SETS should be?
(I read all the questions made, and in one of them you posted something like this, but I didn't understand it)
2 - I know it's hard to tell but, what should I expect from this program, in terms of numbers ?
3 - Can I substitute the Pullups by those Pullup made on the machine (you pull weight, not your body weight, sorry I don't know the name in English) ?
Thanks from Brazil man
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06-29-2010, 07:24 PM #172
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going to start to bulk
hi there¡¡¡
well im going to begin with the bulking program and i decided to use the suplements that you recommend .
im going to take whey protein , bcaas,fish oil,creatine,and a multivitamine;but i dont know how to take each one of them i hope you can guide me with this.
and i have another doubt. did you think that gnc megamen is a good option? im asking this because in my country the animal pack is too expensive.
and my last one doubt is this. did you recommend me go to the dietician to get a good diet?.
well i thinks thats all i hope that you can help me.
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06-30-2010, 03:56 PM #173
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07-01-2010, 05:01 AM #176
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Yes just make sure you are getting enough protein in that meal.
Correct, 80g weighed = 1 Cup.
I recommend starting with a weight you can complete at least 12 reps with but no more than 15 reps with on week 1. This is around 65-70% of yoru 1-RM.
1. 1 oz. = 28.35 grams.
2. You can eat that for all your meals.
3. You could fry it in a pab with a little olive oil, macadamia nut oil, or PAM.
4. I don't have a link off hand.
Moderate intensity steady state or HIIT.
Week 1 = an "easier" week. You will get sore during the later weeks. Also note soreness is not an indicator of a good workout.
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07-01-2010, 05:10 AM #177
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Whey Protein, Multi-Vitamin, and Fish Oil is all you need at 16.
Add some fat and maybe a piece of fruit to your bedtime snack.
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Week = Sets X Reps = Rest Period
1, 7 = 2 X 12-15 = 30 sec
2, 8 = 3 X 8-10 = 60 sec
3, 9 = 4 X 6-8 = 90 sec
4, 10 = 5 X 4-6 = 2 mins
5, 11 = 6 X 3 = 2-3 mins
6, 12 = 1 X 15-20
2. Gaining a SOLID 10 lbs is very possible.
3. Yes you can do lat-pulldowns instead of pull-ups.
GNC Megaman is an ok multi. You should be able to set up a diet for yourself with all the information given in the videos.
1. 28g
2) 45g
3) 30g
4) 25 Almonds = 15g fat. 3 tsp Peanut Butter = 5g fat.
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07-01-2010, 07:09 AM #178
Hi. I've been following the pyramid training you have outlined in the game over cut diet book. My question is referring to the behind the back barbell shrugs in delts and traps workout b. This exercise is kinda awkward because my butt gets in the way. My workout partner has the same problem. We don't have bigger than average butts; we are skinnier than average. Are we doing the exercise wrong or is this normal? Should we replace the exercise? If so, with what? Or should we just keep doing it? Thanks.
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07-01-2010, 11:05 AM #179
Hey Derek,
To help tighten up my body throughout the process can I take a fat burner supplement like Recreate to help the process go faster? Right now I've added an additional 15-20 mins of HIIT post-workout, like you recommended.
I have until about the second week of September to get in as best shape as I can (I'll continue to finish the 12 week program of course), and I just want to know I did everything I possible could to be in the best shape I can by then. Call me paranoid, but I just want to be sure I reach my goals this time haha!
Thanks!Last edited by ntepting; 07-01-2010 at 11:29 AM.
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07-02-2010, 01:48 AM #180
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