Looking to get into a pre-workout supp, and so far I've narrowed it down to these two. Users thoughts, experiences and opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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05-24-2010, 09:42 AM #7
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That's a pretty loose and subjective classification.
How can you say that Gaspari is "garbage"? We make quality products, we follow cGMP practices and do intensive quality testing. Some competing companies have made some false allegations regarding our company that are unfounded and unproven, so if you're basing your opinion of us on the words of competitors, then your information is biased and skewed.
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No explode worked ok for me..
Superpump didn't do anything but make me shiet.. Not doggin it just didn't work for me.
Jacked didn't do Jack shiet
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05-24-2010, 09:57 AM #12
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Check out http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/le...-state-gt.html
That's my shameless pimp, but an honest one. I've tried SP250, NOXplode, Jack3d, Shock Therapy, and White Flood (among others). None of them do for me what ASGT does, and there is a plethora of others who say the same thing.Self-proclaimed Constitutional Conservative-Libertarian Hippie.
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05-24-2010, 09:58 AM #13
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05-24-2010, 10:09 AM #14
They do work, but I feel like I'm always being robbed when there's a better option. Novedex xt.. is why I dislike your company.. yeeaah I love them achy joints. Not a fan of the product, superpump 250 I liked at first, but there's so many better options. You guys are on the bottom of the food chain imo. Yes hater. o_0 I've bought plenty of Gaspari products, only to which I have found to be over hyped and found easily replaceable.
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05-24-2010, 10:26 AM #15
I have only used Sp 250 and from my experience it worked great.
My workouts lasted longer and noticed good strength gains.
Never really had the sh!ts from it. Only time i did get diahrreah was when i took SP250 right after eating. If you wait a bit after eating then you should be fine.
Id recommend it.Mods ain't got **** on me
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05-24-2010, 01:33 PM #16
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We did have a problem with too high a magnesium content in the first iteration of SuperPump, but we reformulated about 2-3 years ago and lowered the magnesium, resulting in a much more tolerated product.
Unfortunately, internet hysteria has been slow to catch up with the times.
I'm sorry your experiences were not what you had hoped.
Novedex is very effective at what it does, but yes, as you noted, if the dosing is too high, it can have some less than desirable side effects (resulting from dropping estrogen levels too low).
Superpump is a very good product, and despite being a 6+ year old product it does hold it's own in sales and customer reviews even against newer competitors. That said...it's about time for a facelift, and one is in the works.
And regarding our other products, we try really hard to apply the latest research and proven ingredients to make the best formulas for the best price. SizeOn Max Performance and Pre Contest as well as Anavite are excellent examples. They combine highly bioavailable and effective ingredients at efficacious doses for maximum benefit. And given the high quality of ingredients in these products, you actually would pay more if you made your own versions using custom raw materials.
Don't forget the quality aspect of our products. When was the last time you had a Gaspari powder that was a brick in the tub, or that clumped up really bad? We don't get those reports because we take care in the formulation and packaging to ensure a high quality experience for our customers.
We aren't the cheapest brand out there, but when you look beyond the marketing and review the ingredients and research; you really can't find a better value than Gaspari products.
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05-24-2010, 02:07 PM #19
Internet is indeed behind on the 'omg superdumpz'
Obviously as a rep you have to push your products but from a mostly neutral standpoint, I can't really recommend SP250 when superior products exist
In response to birdman, Gaspari is definitely not at the bottom of the totem pole, there are some insanely useless supplements out there that sell surprisingly well.
Sizeon is right at the top of the intra-workouts.
Anavite isn't really for me given that I already get the 'extras' in it elsewhere and am liking Ortho Core, but it's definitely one of the top few multivitamins
Myofusion tastes great
To say they're at the bottom of the totem pole is blissful ignorance.
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I've seen a lot of people complain about getting the craps with sp250 and noxplode.. but I've tried sp250 for about a week and didn't have that happen. Basically these are both supps that they will either work very well for you or completely backfire. This forum really seems to hate NO xplode, and they have good reasons, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't delete it as an option. Personally if I were you, I'd try sp250 first and if that doesn't work then try NO xplode. If you're still not satisfied.. look into jack3d. Just ordered my first tub last night.. pretty excited
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05-24-2010, 02:24 PM #22
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Superpump250 is #1 for me. I took noxplode a long while back and it didnt really do anything for me. Superpump does give me a bubble stomach at first, nothing crazy, but I'll just use the restroom and head to the gym about 15min later. Always have a good energy, strength stays consistent throughout workout and skyrockets as a couple weeks go by.The vascularity and pump for me is crazy.
oh and I've never used more than 1 heeping scoop and always stacked with size on.
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05-24-2010, 02:31 PM #23
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Thanks for the balanced and fair feedback.
What pre-workouts do you like better? I'm genuinely curious, since I work out in the early AM, I need my daily preworkout fix. I've tried a lot and still prefer SP250, but I obviously haven't tried them all.
I think I said that just a few posts above yours.
Yes, it's over half a decade old. Very few supplements that were popular when SP250 came on the scene are still around, and I don't think any of them are in the bb.com top 10. So even though it is an "older" formulation, it was very well designed and still kicks butt!It's hard to win an argument with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person. - Bill Murray
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05-24-2010, 02:32 PM #24
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05-24-2010, 03:18 PM #26
i had the same delema the other night when ordering. I liked that you got 10 more servings with the BSN -NO.....but i am just so comfortable using Gaspari products that i just couldn't force myself to change over. I think they are both good products...it is just what you are into and what works for you. 90% of the people could say SP is better, but maybe NO-X is better for you...
can't ya show some class?
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05-24-2010, 03:25 PM #27
I have been using jack3d for the past month on lifting days. It definately has helped out. However, three of my friends claim they don't feel anything when they take it, so it's not for everyone i guess. Recently I got a sample of superpump250 and honestly I think it was better then jack3d (and tasted a hell of alot better). Now, I did only use it one day but damn I lifted like a beast that day.
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05-24-2010, 03:29 PM #28
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05-24-2010, 03:33 PM #29
I think BSN did a better job with the newer NT version which I have used and still have quite a few packs of... the red storage tubes that come with them are packed in there tight with the packs though and out of the 3 boxes I have bought, 2 of them had punctured packs with powder mess everywhere and a mostly empty pack to boot. BSN is a big brand and I emailed them thinking they would address the situation quickly for me... after numerous emails back and forth and a month later, their 'internal' investigations revealed no error on their part... they did nothing for me. Well they permanently lost my business.
I agree with the others here in suggesting you try a modern and majorly effective quality pre-workout in PreSurge. My 1st purchase was a modest 1 tub to try it out and then my next purchase after I had enjoyed it so much, I ordered 12. I also have pre-workout hungry friends/gym members, who have loved PreSurge just like me. I will generally use this in cycles taking breaks with a quality non-stim like Ultima and likely P-Bol when it is released.
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05-24-2010, 03:35 PM #30
-Presurge Unleashed has been awesome
-Jack3d was a lot lighter on the stomach, and gave me a better energy boost,
-Cryoshock would also place higher than SP250 on my list, and was really my favorite preworkout I've tried that has stims.
-PUMP-Bol & Ultima, despite not having used them yet are both significantly better on paper, of course, they're both brand new, and as such have years worth of research over sp250.
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