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    wilks scale, good score?

    What would be considered average, above average and elite on the wills scale? Score wise..
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    Bout treefiddy.

    Seriously, more information is needed to make a good answer. Or just look up the tables that tell you what "elite" is. It's not based on Wilks.

    But to give you an idea, 400 raw will get you into the Arnold, but you're going to need to come closer to 500 to win it.
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    Well, I powerlift raw and with my current max lifts it said 362.. so is that like above average but not elite yet?
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    Originally Posted by nic_hendy View Post
    Well, I powerlift raw and with my current max lifts it said 362.. so is that like above average but not elite yet?
    Sure, but depends on what you consider average
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    Originally Posted by nic_hendy View Post
    Well, I powerlift raw and with my current max lifts it said 362.. so is that like above average but not elite yet?
    Is that with your 8" high squat?
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    Originally Posted by nic_hendy View Post
    Well, I powerlift raw and with my current max lifts it said 362.. so is that like above average but not elite yet?
    Definitely not elite. My last 2 meets I was around 420 for my wilks and that was good for 4th place the 198+ division... in a local meet. 450+ is definitely good

    I would consider 500pt raw wilks elite and a 550 raw wilks is just pretty damn amazing.
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    which calculator do you guys use?
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    Originally Posted by dparm99 View Post
    Is that with your 8" high squat?
    You beat me too it!


    I thought you couldn't deadlift either
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    ..

    I wish that I could post one question and not get smartass answers.. I come in here and apologize for the way I used to be, post videos and ask for help.. not people trashing me on every single damn thing I post..

    Endpoint and TrettinR, if you really dislike me that much then I would really appreciate it if you just didn't post unless you are here to help me.. Please and thank you guys!

    I am just here for help and advice and trying to further myself as a lifter in general not get trashed on
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    Originally Posted by nic_hendy View Post
    I wish that I could post one question and not get smartass answers.
    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Definitely not elite. My last 2 meets I was around 420 for my wilks and that was good for 4th place the 198+ division... in a local meet. 450+ is definitely good

    I would consider 500pt raw wilks elite and a 550 raw wilks is just pretty damn amazing.
    How is that a smart ass answer?
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    Originally Posted by koyongi View Post
    Bout treefiddy.

    Seriously, more information is needed to make a good answer. Or just look up the tables that tell you what "elite" is. It's not based on Wilks.

    But to give you an idea, 400 raw will get you into the Arnold, but you're going to need to come closer to 500 to win it.
    a 400 raw squat will get you into the arnold and 500 to win? I thought it was much higher than that.
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    Originally Posted by clorox_me View Post
    a 400 raw squat will get you into the arnold and 500 to win? I thought it was much higher than that.
    Wilks, not squat.
    There is no such thing as 'strong enough'
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Wilks, not squat.
    thank you for clarifying!
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    ..

    I'm sorry TrettinR it wasn't smartass, but you have to admit.. 90% of what you post towards me is aggressive/smartass stuff.. I'm just looking for help on perfecting technique, getting stronger and being smarter.

    Thank you for the educated answer on the Wilks though! Repped!
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    Originally Posted by nic_hendy View Post
    I'm sorry TrettinR it wasn't smartass, but you have to admit.. 90% of what you post towards me is aggressive/smartass stuff.. I'm just looking for help on perfecting technique, getting stronger and being smarter.

    Thank you for the educated answer on the Wilks though! Repped!
    Short answer: don't worry about it. You could enter a local comp and depending on who shows up, take first place and best lifter or get stomped and come in dead last. Wilkes can be fun to see your progress at different weights or compare yourself to other lifters but there's really no point in worrying about it unless it is what they end up using to call a draw.

    To actually answer your question i think most of my meets I was somewhere in the 350-400 range and I ranked anywhere from 2nd-5th in local or collegiate meets. There's always a freak in a weightclass though that might be dead tied with you in two lifts but have 200 lbs on you on the third. Unless you are trying to be the national champ or going fro records just do what you train yourself to do then do better next time.

    If you did your first meet and had a rough day or didn't get what you thought you could, no one is going to laugh or anything, you'll be respected when they see you come back to the next meet with a clear game plan and better training to back it up.
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    Originally Posted by Retardo-pex View Post
    There's always a freak in a weightclass though that might be dead tied with you in two lifts but have 200 lbs on you on the third.
    This always happens to me. I am ahead of a bunch of people after the sub total then I drop like 3 places after the deadlifts... Stupid deadlifts. Should be outlawed!
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    This always happens to me. I am ahead of a bunch of people after the sub total then I drop like 3 places after the deadlifts... Stupid deadlifts. Should be outlawed!
    All I have is my deadlift :P I saw a 165 kid in PA a year ago squat and dl like 405, then bench something like 365-375......Everyone has their omgwtf lift :P
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    Originally Posted by Retardo-pex View Post

    There's always a freak in a weightclass though that might be dead tied with you in two lifts but have 200 lbs on you on the third.
    Never happened to me before, odd.

    As far as Wilks milestones go

    350 - respectable
    400 - good
    450 - very good
    500 - elite
    550 - belyaev
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    Originally Posted by PeonLover View Post
    As far as Wilks milestones go

    350 - respectable
    400 - good
    450 - very good
    500 - elite
    550 - belyaev
    This.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    This always happens to me. I am ahead of a bunch of people after the sub total then I drop like 3 places after the deadlifts... Stupid deadlifts. Should be outlawed!
    But...but...if you don't deadlift, the terrorists win!
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    Originally Posted by PeonLover View Post
    Never happened to me before, odd.

    As far as Wilks milestones go

    350 - respectable
    400 - good
    450 - very good
    500 - elite
    550 - belyaev
    That's because you are the freak, freak :P
    Current Bests (raw/singleply)

    Squat- 435 / 512.5
    Bench- 280 / 308.5
    Deadlift- 495/ 534

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    - Squat 500, Bench 325, Deadlift 550 raw at 181-220.

    - Give the recreational bodybuilder thing a solid effort.
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    Originally Posted by PeonLover View Post
    Never happened to me before, odd.

    As far as Wilks milestones go

    350 - respectable
    400 - good
    450 - very good
    500 - elite
    550 - belyaev
    Yes! I need a mere 1030 to attain Belyaev status. 193 pounds to go.
    314/231/352/881@123
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