I have been taking a serving of ON casein protein before bed as well as in the morning. I account for the calories of the shakes. I was just wondering if this was smart, to take casein at night and in the morning on a cut?
As, i am taking in 2,400 calories. I am 5' 10" and around 178 lbs. Should this amount of calories suffice for a cut? Here is a picture of my current self. Thanks!
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05-17-2010, 05:46 PM #1
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Casein Protein on a Cut?
Goals to be completed by mid-2011
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2. Improve overall leg definition
3. Complete a successful cut for summer
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05-17-2010, 06:41 PM #3
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At night, I personally find it good because it provides your body fuel throughout the evening. I don't take casein during the day because I'd rather not have it slowly processed but as fast as possible. But if you account for the calories, I don't see why it would hurt. After a workout, I would probably do a regular non casein protein shake so your muscles get the protein much faster. Either that or eat real food that has protein.
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05-17-2010, 06:53 PM #4
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05-17-2010, 10:02 PM #9
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casein is deadly its like an ivy drip of protein to your muscles all night while you sleep and only has 3g of carbs per scoop so i dont know what the above poster is talking about extra carbs for.
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05-18-2010, 03:04 PM #10
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I know! It tastes way better than any other protein i have encountered. It keeps me full til lunch during work if i take it for breakfast as well.
Thanks for the input. I have always heard the myth about the timing of eating before bed could be detrimental to keeping slim.
Ha, that IV drip picture got me thinking. That would be a funny scene. Maybe we should market a drip of protein, that would be something!Goals to be completed by mid-2011
1. Bench 320 - 11/20/2010 315
2. Improve overall leg definition
3. Complete a successful cut for summer
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05-18-2010, 03:42 PM #11
Hey man! The casein before bed is a great idea, i do a ON choc shake or cottage cheese before bed every night. Cutting or bulking it's essential. In the morning I would do a basic whey shake in some milk (milk is 80% casein, 20% whey) so you get some slow digesting proteins to help you feel full but also the whey to get your muscles primed and metabolism going for the day.
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Whey is the fastest absorbing, followed by egg, followed by casein.
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05-18-2010, 05:21 PM #15
I'm on a cut. I take it at nite. IN cottage cheese and peanut butter no less. Go for it. I can't sleep on an empty stomach. Maybe stay away from the UP2.0 or MMilk since it has unnecessary calories, but if it's still under your caloric ceiling whatever.
No need to take it in the morning though. You're completely dry. Whey is better in the morning. I'm usually starved so I do whey plus oats. If you make a blend make it less than half casein.
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05-18-2010, 05:27 PM #16
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05-19-2010, 01:06 AM #18
hey im vegetarian and casein is a bread and butter supplement for my cuts
you should use it pre-bed especially to hold you over the night and especially if you do morning cardio. In the morning just use a scoop of whey. I take a scoop of unflavored casein and half a scoop of whey before bed and drink 2 shakes of .5 scoop whey .5 scoop casein through out the day. Casein is really filling so its awesome during the day to cut cravings...and if you want try looking into bulk casein i get over a 100 scoops for 30$ and you can just throw in some flavored whey and it tastes fine
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I've never met anybody who goes on a cut and says "man I sure don't want to build muscle I just want to maintain". I've heard both sides of the camp some say you can gain muscle while on a cut some say you can't so I would plan my protein intake in hopes of building muscle not just maintaining. I'm also interested to know the thought process behind food protein staying with you longer?
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05-19-2010, 01:53 AM #21
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ON Banana casein is soo yumm.
I take a scoop at night time in a coffee mug and add 1/3 cup of water
and mix in 1tsp natural peanut butter and mix.
Microwave for approx 1 minute on low setting, its a sludge and it soo yum. try it !
I used to have a scoop in my oats in the morning too, but I have switched to whey for faster protein absorption. As long as it fits into your macro I say go ahead..I do.Angie....
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I do the same thing, two servings of ON 100% casein at night before before, and then one serving of ON 100% casein and one serving of EAS Premium Protein (whey blend) together in the morning. I usually use 8 oz of milk and another 8 oz of water.
I also take one serving of whey before and another serving after the gym.
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Casein is a marketing gimmick, if you enjoy the taste than keep drinking it.
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