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    Originally Posted by Versatile1 View Post
    You would be very naive if you fail to see the negative effects giving women the right to vote has had. The role of women used to be to take care of the young and old, so it was inevitable that they would immediately start voting for more and more welfare systems and consequently crippling economies.
    THIS.

    Women have proven OVER and OVER again to vote for MORE social programs that kill the free market and suck on the governments tit.

    Because most women just like most of the leeching class of society don't understand that THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH....you just pay more for the beer.

    NOTHING IS FREE....NOTHING. You will pay MORE for it later untill eventually it's just plain unsustainable.
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    I made this thread because of a thread i saw yesterday which had a large amount of people stating they don't believe in equal rights.

    So you can't think of any stupid males?

    This last bit is just moronic, it would take us back to the feudal age.
    The Misc is a troll forum where everything goes and it also happens to be heavily populated by males who like to think of themselves as 'alpha' or dominate over women because 'that's cool'. You knew the results of this thread before you posted it...and yes, I know of plenty of sub-intelligence men that shouldn't be breeding, much less voting for the future of the United States.

    As far as it taking us back to the feudal age, that's a bit of a stretch of the imagination. The feudal age was based around birthright/bloodlines, not intelligence and the ability to think. You have people glutting ballot boxes with votes when half of them don't even know our history in detail or that cannot do simple math. This doesn't place a lot of confidence in the current right to vote which lets anyone have their say, whether they lick windows or not.
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    lol@equal rights

    Sure it would be nice if everyone had an equal opportunity to attain a fulfilling life and have a say in society, but it doesn't really work like that in reality.
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    Originally Posted by Stalwart Steve View Post
    Prove that women are equal to men, Large Emu. Provide scientific evidence.
    Well lets start with intelligence shall we?

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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    Well lets start with intelligence shall we?

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    That's because men (dad, boyfriend, husband) are busy working to pay for it.
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    Originally Posted by KingOfChaos View Post
    The Misc is a troll forum where everything goes and it also happens to be heavily populated by males who like to think of themselves as 'alpha' or dominate over women because 'that's cool'. You knew the results of this thread before you posted it...and yes, I know of plenty of sub-intelligence men that shouldn't be breeding, much less voting for the future of the United States.

    As far as it taking us back to the feudal age, that's a bit of a stretch of the imagination. The feudal age was based around birthright/bloodlines, not intelligence and the ability to think. You have people glutting ballot boxes with votes when half of them don't even know our history in detail or that cannot do simple math. This doesn't place a lot of confidence in the current right to vote which lets anyone have their say, whether they lick windows or not.
    1) Less intelligent people will have different opinions as to what is important
    2) Why should these people be ruled by a government that they didn't even have the right to vote for?
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    it's the islam, christianity and judaism that make women look like ****
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    Personally, I have no problem with them having equal rights, but as somebody said a lot want equal rights without the consequences. One example would be the draft if there ever is one, women get drafted too. I'm not saying they should be drafted but if they want equal rights then everything is equal.
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    Originally Posted by Sandman33 View Post
    THIS.

    Women have proven OVER and OVER again to vote for MORE social programs that kill the free market and suck on the governments tit.

    Because most women just like most of the leeching class of society don't understand that THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH....you just pay more for the beer.

    NOTHING IS FREE....NOTHING. You will pay MORE for it later untill eventually it's just plain unsustainable.
    Evidence for all the bullsh!t you just spewed?
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    1) Less intelligent people will have different opinions as to what is important
    What less intelligent people think has little consequence.

    2) Why should these people be ruled by a government that they didn't even have the right to vote for?
    Because they'll still be taken care of, like they always have been. Just because intelligent people are in charge doesn't mean that the less intelligent are going to be mistreated. Also, with a system like this in place, a greater amount of emphasis will be placed on education which would eventually lead to less people who would be considered 'stupid'.

    This is all conjecture and theory of course, because it would never fly with the bleeding liberal populace unwilling to change. We'll all just end up living in shacks and eating garbage eventually..most likely speaking chinese because the country will go bankrupt and leave us defenseless.
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    Originally Posted by Ascendent View Post
    Women shouldn't have equal rights simply because they don't want equal rights. They want more then equal. They want superiority based on gender..
    wut?
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    The way i see it is everyone should be treated fairly and have the same rights and opportunities IF they can PROVE themselves equal.For example take a construction job,women want to work and make the 20+ dollars an hour but all they want to do is be the person who stands in the road and holds the signs.(from my experience)Now if they were working just as hard as the guys who are doing all the manual work then yes they are equal in that job.

    Name a job a woman can do better than a man.The only thing i can think of is raising children and even then ive met some single dads that take DAMN good care of their children.


    EDIT:Also gather up 100 women and give them a task.Gather up 100 men give them the same task,who do you honestly believe is going to get it done first?Men are undeniably going to finish first with a much better job done.Unless the task is cleaning or cooking,and the funny thing about that is most women cant even do that anymore.
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    Originally Posted by KingOfChaos View Post
    What less intelligent people think has little consequence.



    Because they'll still be taken care of, like they always have been. Just because intelligent people are in charge doesn't mean that the less intelligent are going to be mistreated. Also, with a system like this in place, a greater amount of emphasis will be placed on education which would eventually lead to less people who would be considered 'stupid'.

    This is all conjecture and theory of course, because it would never fly with the bleeding liberal populace unwilling to change. We'll all just end up living in shacks and eating garbage eventually..most likely speaking chinese because the country will go bankrupt and leave us defenseless.

    You're basically saying the more intelligent you are the more rights you should have. Would you be happy with a more intelligent man than you to have more rights than you? I think not, rights need to be universal.
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    Originally Posted by StealGuy View Post
    Men are stronger (physically) and have higher IQs (mentally).
    This is patently false. There are more men on the extremely low and extremely high ends of the IQ range (at least those who have been tested), but the average numbers are identical.

    There obviously area where men are superior cognitively (ANYTHING spacial), but women are not any less intelligent, and I've never seen any sort of scientific study to demonstrate otherwise.

    Though, if you think IQ is a basis for less rights, do you think individuals living in Southern states should have fewer rights than those in Northern states? Religious fewer rights than non religious? Probably not.
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    Men and women are equal as human beings in value but NOT in function. We are very different. The vast majority of women lack the logical capacity to make descions based on reason and accountabilty. They are more emotion based than the male gender which is great for building relationships/nurturing familal bonds etc but not for running society. They make descions not on whether its right/wrong or better for society but what "feels right". This is a fact.

    Choices in society that effect both genders can make or break civilization need to made based on logic/reason. Women were simply never engineered for positions of authority or power and therefore its a dysfucntional role. Western civilization has progressed exponetially in thousands of years based solely on the shoulders of male wisdom/reason and we made it pretty far. Feminism is a key component that's leading to the decline of western society.
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    Originally Posted by KingOfChaos View Post
    What less intelligent people think has little consequence.
    I know multiple people who I am quite sure (well, 99.999%, statistically speaking) are smarter than you. Does that mean your thoughts should be utterly inconsequential compared to theirs, and that they have an inherent right to tell you what to do?
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    Originally Posted by SwayWay View Post
    Men and women are equal as human beings in value but NOT in function. We are very different. The vast majority of women lack the logical capacity to make descions based on reason and accountabilty. They are more emotion based than the male gender which is great for building relationships/nurturing familal bonds etc but not for running society. They make descions not on whether its right/wrong or better for society but what "feels right". This is a fact.

    Choices in society that effect both genders can make or break civilization need to made based on logic/reason. Women were simply never engineered for positions of authority or power and therefore its a dysfucntional role. Western civilization has progressed exponetially in thousands of years based solely on the shoulders of male wisdom/reason and we made it pretty far. Feminism is a key component that's leading to the decline of western society.
    Evidence? You can't just make rash statements and then not give anything to back them up, anyone can do this.

    For example lesbianism is the cause of the volcanic eruptions in Iceland.
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    If they actually do equal WORK then yes, maybe.

    But face it, not everyone in the world is equal, a doctor who saves lives, or a fireman vs lady who stays home and does nothing.

    And most men are the scientists, doctors, lawyers, police officers, poets, writers, engineers, military, chefs, sports players, construction works etc. like 1% of these areas are women, no hate.

    They can do those jobs if they want, but guess what, they dont want too because they are too difficult jobs, LOL.
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    They should have equal rights but also be treated the same.
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    Originally Posted by sandman33 View Post
    this.

    Women have proven over and over again to vote for more social programs that kill the free market and suck on the governments tit.

    Because most women just like most of the leeching class of society don't understand that there's no such thing as a free lunch....you just pay more for the beer.

    Nothing is free....nothing. You will pay more for it later untill eventually it's just plain unsustainable.
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    Well lets start with intelligence shall we?

    http://www.milkround.com/news-career...utperform-them
    No no you dipshit, I said prove that women are equal to men, not post unsourced articles claiming that women go to university more often, which, even if it were true, would not prove that women are equal to men.
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    Originally Posted by GrokTheCube View Post
    This is patently false. There are more men on the extremely low and extremely high ends of the IQ range (at least those who have been tested), but the average numbers are identical.

    There obviously area where men are superior cognitively (ANYTHING spacial), but women are not any less intelligent, and I've never seen any sort of scientific study to demonstrate otherwise.

    Though, if you think IQ is a basis for less rights, do you think individuals living in Southern states should have fewer rights than those in Northern states? Religious fewer rights than non religious? Probably not.
    Religion has nothing to do with intelligence, so please don't bring that up. That's just flamebaiting.

    More rights? Maybe not, but I do not believe in equal rights because nothing in nature is equal, including humans. So 'equal rights' is really ideological. Even the rights we have now that are supposed to be equal really aren't and never will be. People who are smarter and/or more wealthy will always have more rights because they have the resources and smarts to bend government to what they want and screw everyone else.

    We will always have prejudice, discrimination, and racism...it's the nature of human kind. Thus, equality is really a dream.
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    Yes they should recieve equal rights, but they shouldn't be granted extra rights based on their physical inferiority, which seems to be the case lately.
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    Originally Posted by KingOfChaos View Post
    Religion has nothing to do with intelligence, so please don't bring that up. That's just flamebaiting.

    More rights? Maybe not, but I do not believe in equal rights because nothing in nature is equal, including humans. So 'equal rights' is really ideological. Even the rights we have now that are supposed to be equal really aren't and never will be. People who are smarter and/or more wealthy will always have more rights because they have the resources and smarts to bend government to what they want and screw everyone else.

    We will always have prejudice, discrimination, and racism...it's the nature of human kind. Thus, equality is really a dream.
    Take a look at wat equality implies. Its a buzz word that minrities use to garner automatic unearned respect. It comes down to this. Why should the guy that cures cancer be forced to be equal to those lesser than him. He doesnt. The only people that like the idea of equality are the LESSER parties because it automatically raises them up to the higher standards of those who are successful. If you're an illegal, or legal immigrant janitor, you do not deserve the same respect as any surgeon, or doctor, or educated person. You are NOT rewarded well because you DO NOT contribute anything to society for betterment. This is why the educated are paid well, because they raise the worth of a country.

    Equality is an aged term used in the days of slavery to make the point that Humans are Humans, not slaves or lesser based on skin color.

    However, we are far past that, equality is a word that shouldn't even be written in our dictionaries. It's a weak excuse for lazy people to not have to work hard, not have to achieve but still demand respect, that they haven't earned.

    If you want to be considered equal, immigrate legally, work hard, and get on the top level. No one deserves respect out of "equality" or "we're all born the same". It's a **** excuse by minorities that want to carry on this "white oppression" bull****.

    Maybe if the majority of you stopped using the race card, stopped using the equality card, and tried to ****ing earn something you'd realize we can get along and you can be respected.

    Unfortunately, it's easier to hop a fence, evade taxes and get a job building decks, and then bitch about "inequality" later. You are what you make you.
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    Originally Posted by GrokTheCube View Post
    I know multiple people who I am quite sure (well, 99.999%, statistically speaking) are smarter than you. Does that mean your thoughts should be utterly inconsequential compared to theirs, and that they have an inherent right to tell you what to do?
    If they can prove they're more intelligent and their plan of action is lacking in moral ambiguity, then yes. You can be intelligent and still be an evil son of a bitch. People who are actually self serving will eventually show themselves as such.
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    Originally Posted by StealGuy View Post
    Equal rights implies equal abilities.

    Men are stronger (physically) and have higher IQs (mentally).

    We should not give women equal rights for the same reason we do not give them to children.
    I never knew you had to bench press and take an IQ test in order to vote, go to college, get a job, etc. That would put out a lot of men... and put in a lot of women.

    If you want rights based on physical strength and intellect, then you better be willing to take tests for those for the rest of your life, or give up your own rights - and offer the same to all others, rather than placing them all in boxes based on what others of "their kind" are capable of.

    Also, your lack of understanding WRT the IQ issue makes you unworthy of any say in the politics of this country: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post488005431

    I personally am intelligent, but for some reason I do not deserve rights because I am female? What does my lack of physical power have to do with whether or not my opinion matters in matters of politics?

    If I can prove myself to have a higher IQ than you, should my votes negate yours?
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    Originally Posted by Accutron View Post
    If they actually do equal WORK then yes, maybe.

    But face it, not everyone in the world is equal, a doctor who saves lives, or a fireman vs lady who stays home and does nothing.

    And most men are the scientists, doctors, lawyers, police officers, poets, writers, engineers, military, chefs, sports players, construction works etc. like 1% of these areas are women, no hate.

    They can do those jobs if they want, but guess what, they dont want too because they are too difficult jobs, LOL.
    I'm not a fan of how 99.9+% of women are as stay-at-home moms, but keep in mind that one reason women cannot devote as much to a career is due to raising children instead. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have rights, just that they have a different - though equally important - role in society. If everyone is doing it right, both sexes are contributing a lot in their own ways.

    Of course, most people are sh!tty as hell at raising kids, but that's overall, not just women. Unfortunately, they stay at home doing it anyhow.

    That said, many women are successful and contribute to society, and many men do not. There are good and bad among both. I've seen more than my fair share of male leeches on the system at work - raping kids, beating women, gobbling up welfare when they are capable of getting a job. It's really bad.

    Women may be more likely to be unsuccessful at starting a professional life, but men are far more likely to commit unthinkable crimes. Don't let yourself get caught in your own statistical trap.
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    i put yes but let me explain. i think a woman shud have the right to do watever she wants, i just think she belongs in the kitchen u feel me.

    like if a woman wants to **** arounnd wit man **** let her try and **** it up. shell be back in the kitchen eventually
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    I agree

    Far too hormonal.

    I work in the corporate world and their seems to be two types of women.

    The ones who are too phuckin hormonal and whinge all the time...and then there are the ones who work hard and are good at what they do...

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    I think they should have equal rights.
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