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    Originally Posted by MUFC View Post
    I hate all the Analysis courses I've had to take.
    idk...sounds fun getting a taste at pure mathematics. should build up a lot of logical skills
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    It is fun getting a taste of pure mathematics

    currently reading about linear algebra

    seems like a fundamental subject to me
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    Originally Posted by Merauder View Post
    It is fun getting a taste of pure mathematics

    currently reading about linear algebra

    seems like a fundamental subject to me
    its just about vector spaces and the like, isnt it?
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    Originally Posted by Spaghettii View Post
    its just about vector spaces and the like, isnt it?
    it's surtout about the linear combinations of vectors

    like how vectors v1, v2, v3 element of R^3
    and scalars a, b, c element of R can make a linear combination
    av1 + bv2 + cv3

    vectors can be added like this


    all of the linear combinations produce a vector space which can be represented as a plane, line, R^3, R^4 or anything else for that matter

    just imagine it like 3 vectors in R^3 that are all in the same direction, any linear combination av1 + bv2 + cv3 could only produce the same line
    now if only 2 of these vectors are in the same direction then all the linear combinations produce a plane

    If the third one is also in a different direction than all the linear combinations produce R^3

    small pic but can you see how the linear combinations of the vectors V, W element of R^2 produce the darker shaded plane? (the plane is infinitly large)



    the whole matrix representation of vectors is very powerfull imo

    Gilbert Strang has lectures on the MITyoutube-channel about linear algebra
    but there are more than 30 lectures that take about 45 minutes...
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    Find the line y = ax + b that best fits the data points (x, y) = (1, 1), (0, 1), (1, 2), (2, 2)
    y=1/2x+1
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    above post ^^
    noted

    so the vectors v1, v2, v3 I talked about are element of (R^3,+ ,*)
    v1 = (3, -1, 5) that is element of R^3 when talking about linear algebra could be interpreted as being element of the vector space (R^3, +, *)
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    fffuuuuuuuu i hate pure math

    applied math is where the ****s at
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    Originally Posted by Merauder View Post
    noted

    so the vectors v1, v2, v3 I talked about are element of (R^3,+ ,*)
    v1 = (3, -1, 5) that is element of R^3 when talking about linear algebra could be interpreted as being element of the vector space (R^3, +, *)
    Yes to your first question. Usually vectors with components a,b,c are notated as <a,b,c> or ai+bj+ck to avoid confusion with the point (a,b,c). The vecor <a,b,c> is a directed line segment from the origin to the point (a,b,c).
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    whats F' of x+3/8x+1 and F"
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    Originally Posted by sinct84 View Post
    whats F' of x+3/8x+1 and F"
    d/dx a*x^n = a*n*x^(n-1)
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    lol ITT MiscMathematician comes in and styles on everyone with his pure maths and proofz.


    MiscMathematician how the fck do you remember some of this sh!t... I am 4th year math major and don't remember anything worth anything... I do a lot of lie algebra now.
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    Its an easy proof. In a senior level (400) Real Analysis class you will do things like this and likely more difficult than this. Grad analysis (600/700) is on a whole other level completely. For an intricate treatment of senior undergrad/beginning grad book look at Principles of Mathematical Analysis.
    What classes are you suppose to take in 200 or 300 level math?

    I'm finishing 2nd year, finished cal 1 (didn't start as science/field).

    not sure if i can finish in 4 years if i wanted a math degree

    So if I did, in Junior year, I'd be taking calc 2, calc 3, mv, linear algebra

    senior:
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    d/dx a*x^n = a*n*x^(n-1)
    lulz what, thats not right.
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    Originally Posted by sinct84 View Post
    lulz what, thats not right.
    He didn't give you the answer.

    He told you how to get the answer.
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    Prove that 1+1=2
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    Originally Posted by Green54 View Post
    Prove that 1+1=2
    For any set S, define a "successor" function f as

    f(S) = {S, {S}}

    Then we define the natural integers as such:

    Define the number 0 to be the empty set, which I'll write here as O.

    Then each successive integer (ie "n+1") is just the preceding integer put through the successor function, ie

    1 = {O, {O}}
    2 = {O, {O, {O}}}
    3 = {O, {O, {O, {O}}}}

    and so on.

    Then 1+1=f(1)={O, {O, {O}}}=2. QED

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    Are there different sizes of infinity? Me and a friend got into an argument with him saying that there was... but it doesn't make any sense.
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    He didn't give you the answer.

    He told you how to get the answer.
    thats not how you get the answer either
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    Originally Posted by SaniK View Post
    Are there different sizes of infinity? Me and a friend got into an argument with him saying that there was... but it doesn't make any sense.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality
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    Originally Posted by SaniK View Post
    Are there different sizes of infinity? Me and a friend got into an argument with him saying that there was... but it doesn't make any sense.
    if you take a limit of something and you get say 2infinity/infinity then you just say it approaches 2, horizontal asymptotes for example.

    if it is infinity^n/infinity^m

    if n>m then it is still infinity
    if n<m it is zero

    but infinity is just a theoretical number that you can never get to, so there aren't different degrees of it.
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    Originally Posted by SaniK View Post
    Are there different sizes of infinity? Me and a friend got into an argument with him saying that there was... but it doesn't make any sense.
    This has to do with counting the number of elements in a set I think?

    cardinality

    How N and R both go to infinity but in R there are also infinitly many elements between 0 and 1.
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    Originally Posted by sinct84 View Post
    thats not how you get the answer either
    First derivative= (8x^2 -3)/8x^2

    Second derivative= 3/4x^3
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    lulz at MiscMathematician showing everyone up. I'm glad I'm completely done with math.
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    lulz at MiscMathematician showing everyone up. I'm glad I'm completely done with math.
    until what math did you take brah?
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    Originally Posted by Spaghettii View Post
    until what math did you take brah?
    Diff/Multi var calc/linear algebra. Also needed to take a statistics/probability math.
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    Originally Posted by charity4thepoor View Post
    fffuuuuuuuu i hate pure math

    applied math is where the ****s at
    yep

    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    d/dx a*x^n = a*n*x^(n-1)
    **** it, use the quotient rule

    Originally Posted by whitedwarf View Post
    lol ITT MiscMathematician comes in and styles on everyone with his pure maths and proofz.


    MiscMathematician how the fck do you remember some of this sh!t... I am 4th year math major and don't remember anything worth anything... I do a lot of lie algebra now.
    wtf is lie algebra?

    Originally Posted by sinct84 View Post
    lulz what, thats not right.
    power rule or quotient rule, your choice
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    Originally Posted by tvman View Post
    Diff/Multi var calc/linear algebra. Also needed to take a statistics/probability math.
    calculus courses are fun, dunno about linear algebra. what can i use linear algebra for in real life? calculus is easy to use IRL, but linear algebra? rly?
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    Originally Posted by Spaghettii View Post


    power rule or quotient rule, your choice
    yeah its the quotient rule, i was actually hoping you'd figure it out. It was on a final I had a few weeks ago and for sum reason it just stumped me. I don't recall if that was the exact equation but it was the only thing I got wrong on the exam and they never showed the correct answer
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    Originally Posted by charity4thepoor View Post
    what is the derivative of phone
    fixed
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