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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    I feel you on the bashing its one thing to be critical or opinionated vs bashing. I am not a fan of NO Beta or CEE but its not hurting your sells is it? So don't let it bother you. BSN and Muscletech get ragged on all of the time but they outsell everyone. I didn't read trainhard's post but I wll.

    Legit question though why use CEE or Arginine when studies show their ineffectiveness to pumps, performance and body comp? No Hype has shown so many studies against them. Maybe you have some access to some positive ones that I am unaware of.

    Also I haven't looked at your other products so I have no comment on them but will look at them too.
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    Originally Posted by trainhard8624 View Post
    you're right......to an extent. Though to be honest sometimes reps can be too overbearing and that irritates some. I've done it myself before


    sidenote: their new products, betacene specifically, intrigues the f*** outta me. I know it'll taste good......
    One day ill get a sample (if they're offered?) and do an unbiased review for all to see.
    Originally Posted by trainhard8624 View Post
    my posts not important...........don't bother
    lol, if by overbearing you mean shameless pimping then I agree I haven't seen you do that.

    After some of my posts or threads that I have started I ask myself damn am I a thread killer? lol, I have posted a few times in a thread that was going hot and boom it seems to slow don't or stop. So my post aren't important

    Anywho, betacene looks simple and effective. Not sure I would pay almost $30 for it though.

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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    Anywho, betacene looks simple and effective. Not sure I would pay almost $30 for it though.
    I agree completely.

    Both of the new products Double-T put out are lightyears ahead of their old products in terms of profile. Unfortunately, as I pointed out early in this thread, they are rather expensive for what you get.

    But I really don't care if a company is expensive really... especially if they do have a selling point. And double-t does. Their stuff tastes really good. That may seem silly... but I think that is a totally reasonable way to differentiate yourself from the competition. Other companies may be cheaper or include more novel ingredients... but a simple formula that tastes great could potentially reach a much larger audience, even outside the standard bodybuilding community.

    So if double-t continues replacing their out-dated products with products in the mold of betacene and nitromine they will not get the bashing they get now. Granted they might not get many people recommending them either as the products aren't amazing... but it's a good step forward compared to no-beta (lol).
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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    lol, if by overbearing you mean shameless pimping then I agree I haven't seen you do that.

    After some of my posts or threads that I have started I ask myself damn am I a thread killer? lol, I have posted a few times in a thread that was going hot and boom it seems to slow don't or stop. So my post aren't important

    Anywho, betacene looks simple and effective. Not sure I would pay almost $30 for it though.
    i like that it looks simple and effective, that's a huge draw for me. Honestly i don't like a few TT products, but their new ones look good. Vast improvement in their formulating efforts.......

    i really don't like when insults get hurled around by people in here though, especially those affilliated......discussing formulas is one thing, but personal attacks on guys really get to me.











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    Originally Posted by maxrx View Post
    Here is an example of an intelligent post - he may not like other DTS products but he won't join your silly gange of sport bashing - listen to what he is saying when the time comes he will try it and make a judgment based on his experience with the product and guess what he may honestly give it a rating that you may not be happy with or not - the point is he is reserving his opinion until he can speak intelligently about it.
    Trainhard is a rep for a company so he cannot straight up bash your sh-itty products, as much as I'm sure he would like to.

    Ladies and gentlemen here is a perfect example of who we are dealing with. This guy is 49 years old and has the maturity of a 10 year old.

    "OMG YOU ARE SMALLER THAN ME I HAVE BEEN TRAINING FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND USING STEROIDS FOR AT LEAST A DECADE, BUT YOU ARE SMALLER THAN ME SO I AM BETTER!!!1111" -Maxrx

    Max, you are almost 50, and have been working out since 1975. I'm sorry I'm not as big as you for having worked out only a couple years. I'm sorry I have not yet begun my cycle of anabolics that you surely (and don't even bother denying it) used in the last couple of decades. Luckily, at the end of the day I am still young and can get to that level, and you are old and angry. You attack me for not having pictures, but why don't you show us some actual recent pictures, not the ones from 1981 that are on your bodyspace.

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    Originally Posted by trainhard8624 View Post
    i like that it looks simple and effective, that's a huge draw for me. Honestly i don't like a few TT products, but their new ones look good. Vast improvement in their formulating efforts.......

    i really don't like when insults get hurled around by people in here though, especially those affilliated......discussing formulas is one thing, but personal attacks on guys really get to me.











    but I'm not even involved
    That bothers me as well. Everyone is working towards whatever goal it is and EVERYONE started off somewhere either small or fat so I agree personal attacks aren't needed or called for when dicussing products.

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    Originally Posted by lovehasrisen View Post
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    -Random person starts thread asking why all of Double T products are 10/10
    -People say its because Double T gives away thousands of products in exchange for perfect reviews
    -More people join in and agree that Double T is garbage
    -Maxrx CEO of Double T jumps in and launches an attack on Shadar
    -Claims shadar is pathetic and is 128lbs, therefore has no opinion
    -Maxrx forgets to mention he has been working out for over 30 years and has been using anabolics for over a decade
    -People start to get angry at Maxrx for not defending products, but attacking posters
    -Maxrx gets mad and leaves, unable to defend his products, and unable to recruit Fitnessman to delete thread

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    c'mon people we're grown ups here..

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    Originally Posted by lovehasrisen View Post
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    People bash Double T's products, president of Double T can't answer the demands for scientific studies so he resorts to bashing people based on their size and equates knowledge to muscle mass, people continue arguing.

    Pretty much all of it.

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    Originally Posted by sl4vik View Post
    -Random person starts thread asking why all of Double T products are 10/10
    -People say its because Double T gives away thousands of products in exchange for perfect reviews
    -More people join in and agree that Double T is garbage
    -Maxrx CEO of Double T jumps in and launches an attack on Shadar
    -Claims shadar is pathetic and is 128lbs, therefore has no opinion
    -Maxrx forgets to mention he has been working out for over 30 years and has been using anabolics for over a decade
    -People start to get angry at Maxrx for not defending products, but attacking posters
    -Maxrx gets mad and leaves, unable to defend his products, and unable to recruit Fitnessman to delete thread
    Oh.. so nothing new?
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    Originally Posted by lovehasrisen View Post
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    This isn't a thermolife thread so GTFO!

    I am surprised you aren't a rep because you are in more TL threads than all of their reps combined! Can we petition that you become one? Your shilling and fanboyism(yes just made that word up) is worst than LeDrew's HA I am ****ing with you.\\

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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    This isn't a thermolife thread so GTFO!

    I am surprised you aren't a rep because you are in more TL threads than all of their reps combined! Can we petition that you become one? Your shilling and fanboyism(yes just made that word up) is worst than LeDrew's HA I am ****ing with you.\\

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    How many of you guys bashing these products has actually used them? I have bought and used DT products and I will say they are no joke. I have gained great power and definition from DT products.

    Everyone stop sitting back and criticizing products because of the ingredients when everybody uses the same stuff. Some of the things in OEP do not seem right either it is getting great ratings.

    Stop hating on DT for great marketing and helpful reps. Other companies host transformation contests but you’re not talking about them, why?

    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.

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    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.
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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    How many of you guys bashing these products has actually used them? I have bought and used DT products and I will say they are no joke. I have gained great power and definition from DT products.

    Everyone stop sitting back and criticizing products because of the ingredients when everybody uses the same stuff. Some of the things in OEP do not seem right either it is getting great ratings.

    Stop hating on DT for great marketing and helpful reps. Other companies host transformation contests but you’re not talking about them, why?

    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    How many of you guys bashing these products has actually used them? I have bought and used DT products and I will say they are no joke. I have gained great power and definition from DT products.

    Everyone stop sitting back and criticizing products because of the ingredients when everybody uses the same stuff. Some of the things in OEP do not seem right either it is getting great ratings.

    Stop hating on DT for great marketing and helpful reps. Other companies host transformation contests but you’re not talking about them, why?

    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    How many of you guys bashing these products has actually used them? I have bought and used DT products and I will say they are no joke. I have gained great power and definition from DT products.

    Everyone stop sitting back and criticizing products because of the ingredients when everybody uses the same stuff. Some of the things in OEP do not seem right either it is getting great ratings.

    Stop hating on DT for great marketing and helpful reps. Other companies host transformation contests but you’re not talking about them, why?

    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.
    According to the company you are buying your supplements from, you are skinny, weak, and don't deserve to have an opinion
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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    Have you ever heard of divine intervention?
    yea wondering what god's involvement has to do with this?

    on a side note nice signature.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    How many of you guys bashing these products has actually used them? I have bought and used DT products and I will say they are no joke. I have gained great power and definition from DT products.

    Everyone stop sitting back and criticizing products because of the ingredients when everybody uses the same stuff. Some of the things in OEP do not seem right either it is getting great ratings.

    Stop hating on DT for great marketing and helpful reps. Other companies host transformation contests but you’re not talking about them, why?

    Go try the products and if you still do not like them go in the store and bring down the rating but until them chill out.

    Ok. You go into a store and see two pieces of meat. One is an ultra lean 21 day dry aged filet mignon... the other is rump roast. The price tags are identical and a salesman for the company selling the rump roast comes up to you and tells you that the rump roast is going to be the better piece of meat cause other people have eaten it and liked it.

    Now replace meat with supplements, 21 day dry aged filet mignon with random high quality supplement (say PSU/Ultima/etc), the rump roast with NO Beta, then increase the price of the rump roast while decreasing the price of the filet.

    Pointing out that rump roast is inferior to filet is possible without taking a bite of either to anyone who knows anything about beef.

    The same is true of supplements. If you understand enough about supplements you can look at two profiles and determine which should work better. Sometimes this may be difficult to do. In other cases it is extremely easy to do. This is one of those cases where it is easy.
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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    Have you ever heard of divine intervention?
    Did you mean A priori?

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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    Ok. You go into a store and see two pieces of meat. One is an ultra lean 21 day dry aged filet mignon... the other is rump roast. The price tags are identical and a salesman for the company selling the rump roast comes up to you and tells you that the rump roast is going to be the better piece of meat cause other people have eaten it and liked it.

    Now replace meat with supplements, 21 day dry aged filet mignon with random high quality supplement (say PSU/Ultima/etc), the rump roast with NO Beta, then increase the price of the rump roast while decreasing the price of the filet.

    Pointing out that rump roast is inferior to filet is possible without taking a bite of either to anyone who knows anything about beef.

    The same is true of supplements. If you understand enough about supplements you can look at two profiles and determine which should work better. Sometimes this may be difficult to do. In other cases it is extremely easy to do. This is one of those cases where it is easy.
    I get what you are saying. I am not saying omg this is the best f&#king thing I have ever had but it is worth taking. Give it a try because I think it is harder to tell with this than you think. Everybody is intitled to their own opinion I just wish it was based on concrete knowledge instead of speculation.

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    Originally Posted by csday924 View Post
    I get what you are saying. I am not saying omg this is the best f&#king thing I have ever had but it is worth taking. Give it a try because I think it is harder to tell with this than you think. Everybody is intitled to their own opinion I just wish it was based on concrete knowledge instead of speculation.
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