FIRST POST: My Perspective On Bodybuilding (serious read)

[BigFlexedGuns]

Hi everybody. I am a long time reader of the bodybuilding.com forums - especially the misc section. You guys have made me both laugh and think seriously for a number of years now. Lately, I have had more time on my hands (a function of being placed in an upper level management position at my place of work) so I thought I would register my own account and share my thoughts on bodybuilding.

First off, let me give you some background on myself. I am a fair amount older than a lot of you and I have been bodybuilding for over two decades now. In my mid twenties, I was a national level NPC competitor and I came very close to an IFBB pro card on two occasions. As I matured, I realized that bodybuilding is mutually exclusive with having a functioning, healthy life. You just cannot be a well rounded happy person and be a "successful" bodybuilder." I made the decision that what I wanted in life was children, a job that actually paid money and a functioning family.

There are a lot of misconceptions on this forum in general surrounding the realities of bodybuilding. None of the pros that post here will tell you the truth, and most of the people that have attained some sort of success in bodybulding (be it personal or public) well perpetuate the myths. I am here to give you the straight truth.

1. The whole "1 gram per 1lb of bodyweight" protein rule is not only absurd but has been proven in scientific studies to be physiologically unsound. The only people that can use that much protein are on a combination of hgh, igf, mgf, aas and insulin. Chances are, if you are reading this, you do NOT fit into that category and you should stop eating those absurd diets. They will only make you fat and harm your kidneys.

2. There are no natural bodybuilding champions. I am referring to the ones in the natural federations. The guys that win are on drugs, and half of the time their kidneys and livers are in worse condition than the IFBB guys because they stay on methylated OTC "prohormones" for months.

3. If someone has arms bigger than 16.5-17.0 inches, they are on drugs. I gave a 0.5 inch range here because of height differences. Obviously a guy that is 6'6'' is going to be able to push his arm size out to 17 inches much easier than someone that is 5'9'' but 16.5-17.0 inches is basically the limit here. I see guys that claim natural status saying that have 17 inch arms after 2 years of training and people believe them. Please. if you are truly a natural it will take you a lifetime, with amazing genetics, to get 17 inch arms at 15 percent bodyfat.

4. Bulking/Cutting only works when you use chemicals. It is so depressing to read on these forums of guys who have no desire to compete, who are totally natural and just want to get their arms up to 15 inches being told to eat 4,000 calories per day. The idea of bulking and cutting came about in the 80s when insulin was introduced to the bodybuilding scene and trenbolone became more mainstream. If you just want to get a good beach body, eat 2,000 calories per day and have fun working out 3 days a week.

5. Basically anyone can go pro, as long as they have the right chemical assistance. I see people making comments on how a pro improved his arms or chest and wondering what their workouts are like. Everyone works out the same. Any IFBB Pro works out the same as any 5'10'' 120lb kid in the gym. Its a game of chemicals and with the introduction of peptides, genetic dont even matter.

I hope this post wakes some of you up to the reality of bodybuilding. Stop eating rediculous amounts of food when you are a natural and stop buying into the hype that you can get 18 inch arms without putting a vetinary pharmacy into your bloodstream. In a few years most of you will snap out of the body image disorder and see that you spent the last few years of your life getting fat and doing permanent damage to your heart, kidneys and liver chasing a dream that wont happen.

[lincolnmkv]

Welcome to the Misc. Here's your first neg.







(not srs)

[NiGhtt]

[bcal9879]

inb4 sh!tstorm

[fishpat86]

Strong 1rd post

EDIT:

TITS OR GTFO

[DontDisturb]

Strong first post

[hardwork08]

soo...


















i does has potential?

[bigmike504]

strong 1nd post

can we get some pics of yourself (no homo)

[CementPizza]

Instrdthnd.

[BigFlexedGuns]

lol! Everything you have just said is probably because you failed as a bodybuilder yourself and blaming everything on steroid use.

i already stated that i almost went pro on a few occasions as a national level competitor, so do you really think i wasnt on the same stuff? its entirely chemical warfare at that level and I made the decision that having a family and kids was what I wanted.

[stonefacekilla]

its not actually that far from the truth but i dont agree with points 1,3,4 & 5

[1GGY]

i already stated that i almost went pro on a few occasions as a national level competitor, so do you really think i wasnt on the same stuff? its entirely chemical warfare at that level and I made the decision that having a family and kids was what I wanted.

[poolshark472]

pics of when you were a competitor or negs

[redheadlaw7]

Welcome!

[BO$$]

pics of yourself in your mid twenties or negs

[Jaxy_Waxy]

cool story bro. prove your points or negs

[Takumi587]

not sure if srs...

[mattyoc3]

its not actually that far from the truth but i dont agree with points 1,3,4 & 5

so uh u dont agree with 80% of what he said.

and the 17" arms is bs make that 18.5" and ill believe it

[dima22]

intersesting read

[Davis_Ever]

i have 16.3'' arms with extremely average genetics...i stopped reading after point 3. I know Ill have 17'' arms by the end of this year.

[bobcat11]

I agree with the protein part. How is there any correlation between 1 g/lb. bw? Can anyone show me a legit scientific lift?

[matty_b_bop]

although well-written and inciting, i don't feel as most of that is true, especially about arm size, and that it's not possible to get over 17" arms without drugs.

[partymonster975]

And he plays the protein kidney damage card.
Someone doesnt wanna eat.

as for the arms, height and weight play a HUGE factor. If ur 5'3 with 16 inch arms it's a lot different than being 6'2 with 16inch arms.

[rotatoo]

. If you just want to get a good beach body, eat 2,000 calories per day and have fun working out 3 days a week.

i did this for a while and i did not grow very much.. Sure youre not just uber bitter/pessimistic?

[Bron_bron]

In b4 5 page sh!t storm.

[stonefacekilla]

so uh u dont agree with 80% of what he said.

and the 17" arms is bs make that 18.5" and ill believe it

thats right, i only agree with 20% of what he said.

[engj]

Instrdthnd.

Da Fuk?

[bertstare201]

Hi everybody. I am a long time reader of the bodybuilding.com forums - especially the misc section. You guys have made me both laugh and think seriously for a number of years now. Lately, I have had more time on my hands (a function of being placed in an upper level management position at my place of work) so I thought I would register my own account and share my thoughts on bodybuilding.

First off, let me give you some background on myself. I am a fair amount older than a lot of you and I have been bodybuilding for over two decades now. In my mid twenties, I was a national level NPC competitor and I came very close to an IFBB pro card on two occasions. As I matured, I realized that bodybuilding is mutually exclusive with having a functioning, healthy life. You just cannot be a well rounded happy person and be a "successful" bodybuilder." I made the decision that what I wanted in life was children, a job that actually paid money and a functioning family.

There are a lot of misconceptions on this forum in general surrounding the realities of bodybuilding. None of the pros that post here will tell you the truth, and most of the people that have attained some sort of success in bodybulding (be it personal or public) well perpetuate the myths. I am here to give you the straight truth.

1. The whole "1 gram per 1lb of bodyweight" protein rule is not only absurd but has been proven in scientific studies to be physiologically unsound. The only people that can use that much protein are on a combination of hgh, igf, mgf, aas and insulin. Chances are, if you are reading this, you do NOT fit into that category and you should stop eating those absurd diets. They will only make you fat and harm your kidneys.

2. There are no natural bodybuilding champions. I am referring to the ones in the natural federations. The guys that win are on drugs, and half of the time their kidneys and livers are in worse condition than the IFBB guys because they stay on methylated OTC "prohormones" for months.

3. If someone has arms bigger than 16.5-17.0 inches, they are on drugs. I gave a 0.5 inch range here because of height differences. Obviously a guy that is 6'6'' is going to be able to push his arm size out to 17 inches much easier than someone that is 5'9'' but 16.5-17.0 inches is basically the limit here. I see guys that claim natural status saying that have 17 inch arms after 2 years of training and people believe them. Please. if you are truly a natural it will take you a lifetime, with amazing genetics, to get 17 inch arms at 15 percent bodyfat.

4. Bulking/Cutting only works when you use chemicals. It is so depressing to read on these forums of guys who have no desire to compete, who are totally natural and just want to get their arms up to 15 inches being told to eat 4,000 calories per day. The idea of bulking and cutting came about in the 80s when insulin was introduced to the bodybuilding scene and trenbolone became more mainstream. If you just want to get a good beach body, eat 2,000 calories per day and have fun working out 3 days a week.

5. Basically anyone can go pro, as long as they have the right chemical assistance. I see people making comments on how a pro improved his arms or chest and wondering what their workouts are like. Everyone works out the same. Any IFBB Pro works out the same as any 5'10'' 120lb kid in the gym. Its a game of chemicals and with the introduction of peptides, genetic dont even matter.

I hope this post wakes some of you up to the reality of bodybuilding. Stop eating rediculous amounts of food when you are a natural and stop buying into the hype that you can get 18 inch arms without putting a vetinary pharmacy into your bloodstream. In a few years most of you will snap out of the body image disorder and see that you spent the last few years of your life getting fat and doing permanent damage to your heart, kidneys and liver chasing a dream that wont happen.

so u saying that if celltech wasn't there ronnie coleman would be as big as he is now?..I don't believe you.

[ricohitman]

riveting tale...now die.

[kenonator]

pics