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    Drone aircraft are patrolling U.S. Cities

    Drone aircraft are patrolling U.S. Cities

    Public Intelligence
    26 April 2010


    [img]*****://publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/UAVsoveruscities.png[/img]


    Public Intelligence has received several messages from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department requesting the removal of a Law Enforcement Sensitive document which was published on March 25, 2010 regarding Nevada’s “Silver Shield” infrastructure protection program. The document, which is from November 2007, reveals that Las Vegas Police are using unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and systems to patrol the city and deliver aerial imagery during incidents or special events. Though isolated reports of domestic UAV use do exist, there has not been widespread coverage of the growing use of unmanned aircraft systems over U.S. cities. In March 2006, Declan McCullagh of CNET News reported that police agencies around the country were looking at the use of UAVs for all sorts of purposes, including everything from border patrol to domestic surveillance. In an article titled “Drone aircraft may prowl U.S. skies” McCullagh writes:

    In a scene that could have been inspired by the movie “Minority Report,” one North Carolina county is using a UAV equipped with low-light and infrared cameras to keep watch on its citizens. The aircraft has been dispatched to monitor gatherings of motorcycle riders at the Gaston County fairgrounds from just a few hundred feet in the air--close enough to identify faces--and many more uses, such as the aerial detection of marijuana fields, are planned. That raises not just privacy concerns, but also safety concerns because of the possibility of collisions with commercial and general aviation aircraft.

    In early January 2010, KPRC News Houston reported on the Houston Police Department and the Department of Homeland Security deploying UAVs for surveillance purposes:

    Houston Police use DRONES to spy on AMERICANS!!


    The document released by Public Intelligence corroborates these previous reports, indicating that as early as November 2007, Nevada law enforcement officials were discussing plans to implement the use of UAVs for aerial surveillance during special events and during incident response. Given the character of earlier reports concerning the use of UAVs in other states, it is reasonable to assume that the usage of these unmanned systems is likely be widespread throughout the U.S. The document also indicates that the UAVs feed into a system that is integrated with the local fusion center, along with various systems for recording and geo-mapping “Suspicious Activity Reports” which may be filed by businesses and “critical infrastructure” throughout the state.
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    This is high treason for everyone involved in this. Still believe 9/11 was done by "Al-Qaeda"?--well guess what, now weapons that were allegedly developed to hunt down terrorists are now being turned against you and your family. Congratulations on being conned for the last 8 years.
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    Easy fix.

    Go to a hobby shop, buy some model rockets and build a mini SAM battery.
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    I love the documents you guys post. You just MSPaint in some random abbreviations and jargon and it looks professional.
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    Originally Posted by basement iron View Post
    Easy fix.

    Go to a hobby shop, buy some model rockets and build a mini SAM battery.
    Regular aircraft will just knock them out of the sky, the article said so.
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    Good to know. I would love to work on drone technology designed to target civilians, which companies should I apply to OP?
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    Can we send them South & armed with live ammo
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    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Good to know. I would love to work on drone technology designed to target civilians, which companies should I apply to OP?
    If you get hired, the first thing you should work on is making them smarter so they can avoid regular aircraft. Apparently that's a big concern.
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    Originally Posted by Blindead View Post
    I love the documents you guys post. You just MSPaint in some random abbreviations and jargon and it looks professional.
    http://info.publicintelligence.net/n...lvershield.pdf

    That's an official document.

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    Las Vegas Police Request Removal of Document from Public Intelligence
    25 April 2010 No Comment

    During the month of April 2010, we have received the same message twice from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department concerning a Law Enforcement Sensitive brief entitled “Silver Shield: Nevada’s Approach to Critical Infrastructure Protection” from November 2007. The briefing discusses various aspects of Suspicious Activity Reporting, Fusion Center integration, and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) to patrol portions of the city for aerial photography during incident response.

    Subject: FW: Silvershield Nevada document availible on-line
    From: silvershield <silvershield@LVMPD.COM>
    Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 15:46:31 -0700
    To: “legal@publicintelligence.net” <legal@publicintelligence.net>
    CC: “pwasheba@uerlv.com” <pwasheba@uerlv.com>, “scownay@uerlv.com” <scownay@uerlv.com>, Mike McClary <M1798M@LVMPD.COM>, Greg McCurdy <G2568M@LVMPD.COM>, Dennis Domansky <D3930D@LVMPD.COM>, Brett Primas <B3900P@LVMPD.COM>, Thomas Monahan <T2936M@LVMPD.COM>, Phil Roland <p3991r@LVMPD.COM>, “jmorrison@uerlv.com” <jmorrison@uerlv.com>, “ronc@uerlv.com” <ronc@uerlv.com>, “rskidmore@uerlv.com” <rskidmore@uerlv.com>, David Kelly <D7413K@LVMPD.COM>

    It has come to our attention that you are currently hosting an official and proprietary Silver Shield document on your website. This is an official request to remove the following document from your site:

    “Silver Shield Nevada’s Approach to Critical Infrastructure Protection – Dated November 26th, 2007″

    Here is the direct link to the document on your server:

    http://publicintelligence.net/silver...re-protection/

    Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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    Originally Posted by Kaiulani View Post
    That's an official document.
    When asked for sources you should not cite the same place you were just copy/pasting from.

    If it's official it should be on a government website, right?
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    Even if that one was, I was more referring to the absurd ones you post - ie: MYSTIC level clearance, 19 levels above the US president!!!1
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    How is this different from the government using helicopters and planes? They already do this regularly. Major metropolitan police departments have helicopters and I know the DEA uses helicopters, planes, and satellites for finding marijuana farms.

    The only objective difference here is that drones are unmanned, which is a pretty trivial difference since they're still being piloted by a person on the ground.
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    Originally Posted by Fidelis View Post
    How is this different from the government using helicopters and planes? They already do this regularly. Major metropolitan police departments have helicopters and I know the DEA uses helicopters, planes, and satellites for finding marijuana farms.

    The only objective difference here is that drones are unmanned, which is a pretty trivial difference since they're still being piloted by a person on the ground.
    If it's new technology and has anything to do with the government, then it is a huge conspiracy.
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    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    Good to know. I would love to work on drone technology designed to target civilians, which companies should I apply to OP?
    Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. Though weapons are not built to have specific targets. In fact, at one point drones were going to be used along the Mexican border.

    Just because they are drones doesn't infer they would be lethal. They can be equipped with all kinds of really neat equipment, including the ability to auto-follow groups of individuals based on heat signatures, until they are met by border security.
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    Originally Posted by bigkarl View Post
    If it's new technology and has anything to do with the government, then it is a huge conspiracy.
    this was a conspiracy theory when we spoke about it 3-4 years ago. Oh guess we were right

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    I'm generally uncomfortable with a surveillance state, but this doesn't seem much different from planes and helicopters already used. I could see safety of manned craft in airspace being a concern though, not to mention the eventuality of one of these things hitting a bird and crashing.
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    Originally Posted by Fidelis View Post
    How is this different from the government using helicopters and planes? They already do this regularly. Major metropolitan police departments have helicopters and I know the DEA uses helicopters, planes, and satellites for finding marijuana farms.

    The only objective difference here is that drones are unmanned, which is a pretty trivial difference since they're still being piloted by a person on the ground.
    Are you serious?
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Are you serious?
    Since you seem to think there is a difference... Please create some content in your post, and actually explain what the difference is.


    Newsflash: Police officers, using EYEBALLS are observing their communities on a daily basis! Oh Holy Hell!
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Since you seem to think there is a difference... Please create some content in your post, and actually explain what the difference is.


    Newsflash: Police officers, using EYEBALLS are observing their communities on a daily basis! Oh Holy Hell!
    Whoa. I could have sworn the idea of police using UAV's to spy on the public was a conspiracy theory just a few short months ago. Now its just A-okay and common sense.

    brb having an incredible feeling of deja vu.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Whoa. I could have sworn the idea of police using UAV's to spy on the public was a conspiracy theory just a few short months ago. Now its just A-okay and common sense.
    5 points for completely changing the subject.

    Care to answer the original question? How is this any different from police officers inside airplanes or helicopters conducting surveillance? Or an officer simply sitting in his car?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    5 points for completely changing the subject.

    Care to answer the original question? How is this any different from police officers inside airplanes or helicopters conducting surveillance? Or an officer simply sitting in his car?
    A cop in his car is visible. Police use helicopters and other aircraft for very specific purposes, like helping with high speed chases and looking for marijuana dispensaries.

    Now we can have small, unmanned aircraft watching, and recording, everything we do. It is the same thing, but its not. It is another step towards big brother/orwellian surveillance. Its funny in a sad kind of way to see people who pretend to get so upset at the government sticking its nose in their business give this sort of thing a pass, or even support it.

    And for all the 'lol cters omgz' people, because I like to break things down to their core, it basically works like this. The government is going to try to expand its control of your life. That is just the way authority works, whether your call it government, corporate, whatever. The question is to where to draw the line. Some people, like nutsy, feel that line is always one baby step ahead. Some of us, like myself, feel it is one or more baby steps behind.

    If I went back in time 20 years and said that within your lifetime you'll see cameras on just about every traffic light in just about every major city, UAV's being approved, warrantless wiretapping, military-banned sound weapons used on college kids, etc, you would have called me a god damned retarded conspiracy nut.

    But you can take a lot of baby steps in 20 years, so here we are.
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    Originally Posted by Fidelis View Post
    How is this different from the government using helicopters and planes? They already do this regularly. Major metropolitan police departments have helicopters and I know the DEA uses helicopters, planes, and satellites for finding marijuana farms.

    The only objective difference here is that drones are unmanned, which is a pretty trivial difference since they're still being piloted by a person on the ground.
    Yep, I don't know how many of you have heard of the Chelsea King murder but when she was still missing they used drones to try and find her. Though I am not sure they are like the ones in the OP, I just know they were called drones >_>
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Since you seem to think there is a difference... Please create some content in your post, and actually explain what the difference is.


    Newsflash: Police officers, using EYEBALLS are observing their communities on a daily basis! Oh Holy Hell!


    But that's different! A police officer has eyes.... while a drone has sophisticated cameras!!!!


    With a police officer he can see people..... with sophisticated cameras they can see people really good!

    There's a huuuuuuuuuuuge difference!


    Huge!

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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    A cop in his car is visible. Police use helicopters and other aircraft for very specific purposes, like helping with high speed chases and looking for marijuana dispensaries.

    Now we can have small, unmanned aircraft watching, and recording, everything we do. It is the same thing, but its not. It is another step towards big brother/orwellian surveillance. Its funny in a sad kind of way to see people who pretend to get so upset at the government sticking its nose in their business give this sort of thing a pass, or even support it.

    And for all the 'lol cters omgz' people, because I like to break things down to their core, it basically works like this. The government is going to try to expand its control of your life. That is just the way authority works, whether your call it government, corporate, whatever. The question is to where to draw the line. Some people, like nutsy, feel that line is always one baby step ahead. Some of us, like myself, feel it is one or more baby steps behind.

    If I went back in time 20 years and said that within your lifetime you'll see cameras on just about every traffic light in just about every major city, UAV's being approved, warrantless wiretapping, military-banned sound weapons used on college kids, etc, you would have called me a god damned retarded conspiracy nut.

    But you can take a lot of baby steps in 20 years, so here we are.
    I completely understand what you're saying, and generally agree.

    It's not something that makes me feel remotely warm and fuzzy. I also don't think it's as bad as warrant less wiretaps or suspension of habeus corpus for "suspected terrorists".

    I also don't know if it's something to panic about, but I'd certainly raise some hell if it were going on in my neighborhood.
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