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    How much do self-employed barbers make?

    Anyone know someone who owns a small barber shop? How much do they make?

    I'm thinking it breaks down like this:
    $18 per cut
    x 4 cuts/hr = $72/Hr
    x 7 hours = $504/day
    x 5 days/wk = $2520
    x 4 wks = $10,080
    x 12 = $120,960

    Plus many people tip, so that original $18 could be anywhere from $20-30 or even higher.

    Seems like a fairly lucrative career.
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    Yeah, if the cost of running the business equates to 0
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    You're a ****ing idiot with no clue what you're talking about. You're looking way too into this. Barbers probably don't even make half of what you're suggesting.
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    Originally Posted by onestep View Post
    Yeah, if the cost of running the business equates to 0
    All you need to do is find some a small storefront to rent with like 200 sq. ft. that's next to a busy street. That's easy and doesn't cost much. $500/mnth or less.

    There is no real overhead besides electricity. You just have your initial startup costs to buy the chairs and whatnot, which is much lower than most business.
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    Originally Posted by ukero View Post
    essentially all you need to pay for on a regular basis is employees, rent, water and electricity. and the odd hair products and new equipment every now and then but you have to have alot of business first and no way in hell would i ever pay $18 for a haircut let alone $18 USD
    No employees. We're assuming you own/rent a small shop and work there yourself. Let's keep it simple.

    Originally Posted by ButWhole View Post
    You're a ****ing idiot with no clue what you're talking about. You're looking way too into this. Barbers probably don't even make half of what you're suggesting.
    Then tell me where I'm wrong.

    A barbershop can be run out of an 10x15 room, and plenty of them are. Don't think in terms of fancy salons or anything.
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    So you think averaging 4 cuts/hr isn't realistic? What should it be then, 3? I doubt the average cut will take longer than 20 mins. The figure is almost certainly between 3 and 4. I'm hoping someone with personal experience can chime in.
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    i see 2-3 cuts per hour if your appts aren't late or u run behind. most likely 2 cuts per hour. hair cuts are usually 10-14 each from what i've seen.
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    Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    So you think averaging 4 cuts/hr isn't realistic? What should it be then, 3? I doubt the average cut will take longer than 20 mins. The figure is almost certainly between 3 and 4. I'm hoping someone with personal experience can chime in.
    phones, and who is gonna greet people when they come in? And almost positive you aint gonna be 100% booked.
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    Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    So you think averaging 4 cuts/hr isn't realistic?
    And you expect to have 4 customers lining up to get their haircut every hour for 7 hours? Is everyone's hair growing at the same time and are you the only barber in town?

    You're dreaming big.

    You'll be lucky if you cut 10 heads a day in that little barber shop you built inside your apartment.
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    Originally Posted by forgot password View Post
    i see 2-3 cuts per hour if your appts aren't late or u run behind. most likely 2 cuts per hour. hair cuts are usually 10-14 each from what i've seen.
    Apts dude? In a tiny barbershop? It's walk-in service only.

    Originally Posted by someguy2000 View Post
    phones, and who is gonna greet people when they come in? And almost positive you aint gonna be 100% booked.
    First, you don't need a phone. People would only be calling to find out your hours and you can easily have those posted on the door. When it's just you working there, there isn't going to be some great mystery as to who will be cutting your customers' hair. I don't call my barber. Do you?

    Second, if you really want a phone, just carry your cell phone on you. This is exactly what my barber does. He has like 3 cellphones in his shop and takes calls while he cuts. Finally, you can have a landline installed with a recorded message that has your hours of operation.

    Originally Posted by ButWhole View Post
    And you expect to have 4 customers lining up to get their haircut every hour for 7 hours? Is everyone's hair growing at the same time and are you the only barber in town?

    You're dreaming big.

    You'll be lucky if you cut 10 heads a day in that little barber shop you built inside your apartment.
    No one said the hours had to be consecutive. Like most businesses there are rush times and slow times. Your best business would probably be in the afternoon. You could get in a solid 4 hours of business from 1-5 PM. Then you could throw in a block of 2-3 hours whenever you felt you'd get some decent business, maybe from 9-12. There is always lots of traffic on the roads at those times. People would be passing by in their cars and stop for a haircut on their lunchbreak. I see this all the time in my area.

    Also, you have to understand how averages work. Averaging 4 cuts per hour could mean that you do 6 cuts in one hour while only doing 2 the next hour. It does NOT mean "having 4 customers lined up every single hour."

    It's safe to say that most cuts will not exceed 20 mins. You will have a decent number of people come in for "quickies" who will be in-and-out in 10 minutes or less. These people will bump up your average and cover any for any slow times. That's how you maintain your average of 4 cuts/hr even if they're not consecutive. I am not pulling this out of my ass. I spoke with my barber once about the business side of things and this is pretty much exactly what he told me. It makes sense.

    Where I live I can probably find a dozen barbershops within a 5 mile radius that operate just how I've described. You really don't need a huge place. All you need is a couple of chairs and a waiting area with like 4-5 seats. That's what these places have. I've seen them and they're ubiquitous.

    Places that look like this:
    http://www.stevesbarbershop.com/

    There's thousands of them. Steve's, Ted's, Mike's, Bill's, Jim's, Jane's, Nancy's, etc...

    P.S. I agree that $18 is a bit on the high end (though not out of line for what's being charged these days). Minimum is $12-15 unless you live in some trailer park. Let's assume you're good at your craft or you have some personal appeal (think attractive female barber) so you can justify the $18 expense.
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    Depending on the cut it takes longer than 15 mins. Not everyone gets a #2 buzz.

    There is also time between when you finish with one individual to when the next one sits down.

    There is also not someone in line perfectly lined up all day long. You might not get anyone for an hour and then 5 show up during lunch or 20 from 5-6 after work lets out.

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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Depending on the cut it takes longer than 15 mins. Not everyone gets a #2 buzz.
    No, not everyone gets a #2 buzz. That would take 5 minutes, not 15. 15-20 minutes is a detailed, multi-layer haircut for most people (men).

    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    There is also time between when you finish with one individual to when the next one sits down.
    Yeah, about 45 secs in the shop that I go to. Register is 3 feet away from the barber's chair. Not much downtime between customers.

    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    There is also not someone in line perfectly lined up all day long. You might not get anyone for an hour and then 5 show up during lunch or 20 from 5-6 after work lets out.
    I alluded to this earlier. Read my post. The scenario you're proposing won't hurt your business. Most people can wait for one or other two cuts before their turn.

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    I have thought, and am thinking. This article backs me up:

    http://www.ehow.com/about_4674864_ho...rber-year.html

    Barbers make money by charging different rates for different services. Most standard haircuts average between $8 and $20 a haircut. For a neck and face shave only, the services can vary between $5 and $10 plus tip. For facials, around $3 to $6, and for beard trims around $5. It typically takes a barber 15 to 25 minutes to thoroughly cut a man's hair. For women or men with longer hair, or those who want more style options, it can take an additional 15 minutes. Tips vary per haircut, but typically are between $2 and $5 per cut. Barbers who work 40 hours per week with a steady clientele can make anywhere from $500 to $800 per week.
    I don't think what I posted originally was off the mark.
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    chances are you won't be 100% booked. Probably 50% if you are lucky at the beginning. I'd probably get a slighly larger space and get other barbers to pay you rent to work out of the shop

    You could also sell hair products to supplement the income.
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    my barber has been working in the same place for over 40 years, he charges 15 bucks a cut and has a huge dedicated clientele. its an older crowd, simple haircuts that take no more than 10 mins. he has a nice car and a modest house, but srsly the dude must be totally loaded. straight cash all day long.

    i think its kind of like a family practitioner doctor, or a dentist, or any kind of service, where you have to be good with people and provide a good experience to get your momentum going, or else you will fail.
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    lol at those numbers, please try to make 100k+ as a barber
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    Originally Posted by captainhorseboy View Post
    my barber has been working in the same place for over 40 years, he charges 15 bucks a cut and has a huge dedicated clientele. its an older crowd, simple haircuts that take no more than 10 mins. he has a nice car and a modest house, but srsly the dude must be totally loaded. straight cash all day long.

    i think its kind of like a family practitioner doctor, or a dentist, or any kind of service, where you have to be good with people and provide a good experience to get your momentum going, or else you will fail.
    Yup, that's what I was talking about. I have seen old farts getting their hair cut and it's literally 6 snips and they're done. 15 bucks please. They never want too much taken off because they've lost enough as it is.

    If you're female, below 40 and remotely attractive, you're automatically "good with people" when those people are men. So this is probably one of the best career options for women, right next to escorting. And I'm talking about female barbers who cut men's hair, NOT female hairdressers who work in salons.
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    Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    Yup, that's what I was talking about.

    If you're female, below 40 and remotely attractive, you're automatically "good with people" when those people are men. So this is probably one of the best careers for women, right next to escorting.
    Yea some of those girls kill it in high end salons getting tipped 100 bucks by white knights.
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    My barber has 2 Hondas and a Jaguar.

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    You can make a good life for yourself once(if) you get established there is no denying that but the 120,000 a year is pretty fat fetched for most barbers I would imagine.
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    The way to do it is to rent a place in a higher traffic area, so it will be seen. Then, have multiple stations in there. You "rent out" those stations to other barbers or even hairdressers if you want. Then you make all of your pay and about 1/3 of theirs.
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    when i went to a barber, i know he made good money. was constantly busy, charged $16 for a 20 minute haircut, and i'd usually just give him a $20 and let him keep the change.

    the key is knowing a bunch of random stories to tell while cutting hair, i liked my barber because he talked about drinking and drugs a lot

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    4 cuts a hour is unreasonable. more like 2-3

    it can be close to that much IF you opened your business, gained lots of business and loyal customers. then closed the business and worked out of your house tax free and costs of rent and other matters go down.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Yea some of those girls kill it in high end salons getting tipped 100 bucks by white knights.
    yup they whip up a sob story and flash some tittay and get big tips


    my barber is just a cool old italian guy, he has guys that come in, their sons come in, their grandsons come in. students go there, successful businessmen who used to be students go there. theres always a line, and i still can barely understand the guy because of his accent lol.
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