Banned Supplement List for USMC/Military??

[t.yontz]

I've been looking all over the net for a banned substance list for the military; USMC specifically, but found nothing.



Does anyone have a list or a copy of a list or anything?



*by me posting this thread; does not mean I am taking anything I shouldn't be, but just for future reference, etc it would be nice to know*

[wirymike]

I know the air force allows there pilots to take amphetamines so your good on pretty much any supp... if it's legal i'm sure it dose not matter... unless someone has a link to list of banned legal substances for the military

[rigglemg]

I am looking for the same information. I know that most Navy exchange complexes have GNC stores, so if GNC Sells it, you are probably good to go. Is their a particular supplement you are curious about?

[mbxs3]

I've been looking all over the net for a banned substance list for the military; USMC specifically, but found nothing.



Does anyone have a list or a copy of a list or anything?



*by me posting this thread; does not mean I am taking anything I shouldn't be, but just for future reference, etc it would be nice to know*

You should talk to a doc or corpsman. They should be able to provide you with any instruction related to supplement usage. I am in the Navy and for instance, personnel that are Aircrew and in a flight status are very limited to supplements and even energy boost products they are allowed to take. Not everyone is under that limitation though. So it is something that could be specific to your job or MOS or whatever you call it in the Marines.

[vudoodoodoo]

I know the air force allows there pilots to take amphetamines so your good on pretty much any supp... if it's legal i'm sure it dose not matter... unless someone has a link to list of banned legal substances for the military

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[Spoken0313]

I got out of the Corps last april, I was an 03 NCO and as far as I was ever told by any of my Staff NCO's was that as long as it was sold in the store then there shouldnt be any problem. I personally took supplements and never popped on a test and im not talkin bout creatine or **** like that. The whole time i was in i only ever knew one person to get tested directly for gear and that was cause some one snitched on him.

[Johnnyb123]

I know the air force allows there pilots to take amphetamines so your good on pretty much any supp... if it's legal i'm sure it dose not matter... unless someone has a link to list of banned legal substances for the military

The Air Force only allows pilots to take amphetamines when there is a long mission duration so they dont crash or do anything due to fatigue flying a multimillion dollar or billion dollar plane depending on what your flying, but its typically low dose and given to them only at the time of departure, so saying hes good an pretty much any supp would be bad advice. Your better to ask what is allowed and what isnt. will you be tested for PH/DS/AAS? most likely not. (assuming thats what your wondering about). If so, you also need to ask yourself is what your taking/going to take worth you losing your job or carrier just do get bigger and stronger?

[On Fire]

I've been looking all over the net for a banned substance list for the military; USMC specifically, but found nothing.



Does anyone have a list or a copy of a list or anything?



*by me posting this thread; does not mean I am taking anything I shouldn't be, but just for future reference, etc it would be nice to know*

Hey bro, I don't really know **** about the military/army etc, but I did just come across this thread and I figured all you military guys might be interested in it. Might be some free Optimum Nutrition stuff for ya or something. Good luck!

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=123957671

[t.yontz]

im not currently looking at anything potentially banned; just more of an informative so i know for "future reference" or just for the sake of knowing.

its weird, because supposedly there are many things banned, BUT you cant find out what they are.

its like a secret lol


until piss day, and if its hot then you can always be like (insert rank here) didn't know lol


i mean really, if you think about it; if you pop for something you're taking and you couldn't find any information stating that it was "illegal" then what can they do to you?

i mean sure they could "roast" you, but if you think about it; they didn't say you couldn't take it...

[t.yontz]

[QUOTE=On Fire;481670041]Hey bro, I don't really know **** about the military/army etc, but I did just come across this thread and I figured all you military guys might be interested in it. Might be some free Optimum Nutrition stuff for ya or something. Good luck!



good looking out; i emailed the guy and ill let you know what he said; who doesn't love free s h i t right?

[steele.rw]

1. As long as you can buy it from a "trusted source" (legit online shop) you will be fine. If there "IS" a list then the people who will DEFINITELY have it is the SACO office (main office). If you are on Camp Pendleton then it is on mainside across from the hotel / inn, next to the daycare. The place where all the DUI & drug pop bubbas go for their "counseling".

2. Anyone (SNCO / Officers) telling you otherwise can shove it. Tell them to show you a MARADMIN or Memorandum of record signed by a General grade officer if they persist / attempt to fry you.

3. As far as popping on a conventional drug test: most supps will not make you. There is a spot to list drugs / supplements that you are on though. USE IT!!!! It will save your ass.

4. To be given a "steroid" test they will not be pissing the entire unit due to the cost and paperwork involved. It WILL be a single test and they must have reasonable suspicion that you are taking ILLEGAL steroids. Once again it is costly and will ultimately come out of unit funds. There is also a lot of paperwork involved. In my time in the USMC (7years) I have never seen one given, although I will not say they don't have the means to do it.

Source of my knowledge: I was a USMC unit SACO for 3/5 for a period of time.

[t.yontz]

very informative; like i was saying in a previous post; if there's nothing saying "you cant take it" and you buy it from lets say "bodybuilding.com" or "gnc" etc, who's to say its "illegal"
I mean, there's no place i know of that sells "legit" steroids; plus its a given that "steroids" are illegal anyways.

Im talking more about "supplements, Natural Testosterone Boosters, anabolic s, etc"

not injecting s h i t into your body or stuff like that.




They really need to come out with an official list of PRODUCTS that are banned; not names, etc

i.e.(example) Jonny T's Steroid Mix

not (sterouldsfgd-iperohdg-khdkghjueyness) or some "technical term"



agreed?

[DriftMonster]

im not currently looking at anything potentially banned; just more of an informative so i know for "future reference" or just for the sake of knowing.

its weird, because supposedly there are many things banned, BUT you cant find out what they are.

its like a secret lol


until piss day, and if its hot then you can always be like (insert rank here) didn't know lol


i mean really, if you think about it; if you pop for something you're taking and you couldn't find any information stating that it was "illegal" then what can they do to you?

i mean sure they could "roast" you, but if you think about it; they didn't say you couldn't take it...

Just remember in the military, ignorance is NOT bliss.

I would definitely talk to your doc/corpsman and see if they can figure it out (I doubt they'll know off the top of their heads). I doubt there is a long list of banned supplements due to the fact that testing is so expensive. They only test 10% of the samples they obtain anyways.

[wirymike]

The Air Force only allows pilots to take amphetamines when there is a long mission duration so they dont crash or do anything due to fatigue flying a multimillion dollar or billion dollar plane depending on what your flying, but its typically low dose and given to them only at the time of departure, so saying hes good an pretty much any supp would be bad advice. Your better to ask what is allowed and what isnt. will you be tested for PH/DS/AAS? most likely not. (assuming thats what your wondering about). If so, you also need to ask yourself is what your taking/going to take worth you losing your job or carrier just do get bigger and stronger?

"if it's legal i'm sure it dose not matter" is what i said buddy

and about these multimillion dollar air craft... they have auto pilot systems that will actual prevent a crash if the pilot is too out of it. and the amphetamines they get actually have made AF pilots make bad choices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnak_Farm_incident

they were going to be charged with man slaughter but blammed it on the go pills and the suit was dropped... jus sayin

[nick1990]

"if it's legal i'm sure it dose not matter" is what i said buddy

and about these multimillion dollar air craft... they have auto pilot systems that will actual prevent a crash if the pilot is too out of it. and the amphetamines they get actually have made AF pilots make bad choices.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarnak_Farm_incident

they were going to be charged with man slaughter but blammed it on the go pills and the suit was dropped... jus sayin

so are you saying you hate America?

[wirymike]

so are you saying you hate America?

I do not hate america... jus sayin that why would they have a problem with a G N C bought supp if they give pilots amphetamines which has influenced pilots to make an irrational decision.

[steele.rw]

I would definitely talk to your doc/corpsman and see if they can figure it out (I doubt they'll know off the top of their heads). I doubt there is a long list of banned supplements due to the fact that testing is so expensive. They only test 10% of the samples they obtain anyways.

Negative. You are all kinds of full of bad info bud.

The SACO is the one who would have such a list, not the Corpsman.
They test 100% of urine samples taken for a drug test.
They are SUPPOSED to test 10% of a unit a month at a minimum.

[docmtz86]

The list was just updated today, things from Jack3d to Muscletech Hydroxystim. Its. HUGE list, we just received the list today via BUPERS. UAs to come, if you have it in your space at work or at the Bricks... get rid of it. Pretty much anythin with geranium in it.

[jzitzelberger]

Semper Fi! Ooh-Rah!!!

[Blacklabel3]

I've been looking all over the net for a banned substance list for the military; USMC specifically, but found nothing.



Does anyone have a list or a copy of a list or anything?



*by me posting this thread; does not mean I am taking anything I shouldn't be, but just for future reference, etc it would be nice to know*

As long as you're not doing bicycles I don't think they're going to give a ****.

[h3adbang3r14]

thanx for the heads up

The list was just updated today, things from Jack3d to Muscletech Hydroxystim. Its. HUGE list, we just received the list today via BUPERS. UAs to come, if you have it in your space at work or at the Bricks... get rid of it. Pretty much anythin with geranium in it.

[USMCBloxsom]

I've been taking D-4 by cellucor and have taken countless drug tests since I'm pretty sure that one is safe but with that said they also make another supplimrnt called C-4 which says it can cause a positive on a drug test. I do know for sure 100% jack 3D is banned indefinitely.