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    Most in U.S. against legalizing pot, poll shows

    Most Americans still oppose legalizing marijuana but larger majorities believe pot has medical benefits and the government should allow its use for that purpose, according to an Associated Press-CNBC poll released Tuesday.

    In the poll, only 33 percent favor legalization while 55 percent oppose it. People under 30 were the only age group favoring legalization (54 percent) and opposition increased with age, topping out at 73 percent of those 65 and older. Opposition also was prevalent among women, Republicans and those in rural and suburban areas.

    John Lovell, a spokesman with the California Narcotics Officers' Association, said he wasn't surprised by the poll results because people already are aware of widespread abuse of legal prescription drugs and alcohol.

    "Given that reality, we don't need to add another mind-altering substance that compromises people's five senses," Lovell said

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    So.. old, dumb people and moronic backwoods-types oppose pot legalization? Not too shocking. hopefully a lot of things change when the baby boomers start croaking. I'm embarrassed by this poll.
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    How come I never get polled?

    Is there a list they contact?
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    not suprising since most everyone is told that marijuana is the worst thing in the world starting in pre-school.
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    Well all that matters to me is if enough people in California approve of it. Hopefully if California gets it legalized it won't be long before other states start to follow as people's perceptions start to change about it.
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    Originally Posted by GeorgeCarlinJr View Post
    Well all that matters to me is if enough people in California approve of it. Hopefully if California gets it legalized it won't be long before other states start to follow as people's perceptions start to change about it.
    It is going to be a tough road. Law enforcement groups are already gearing up against it. They have deep pockets and will put a lot of money into defeating this measure. They stand to lose funding, if it passes.
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    It is going to be a tough road. Law enforcement groups are already gearing up against it. They have deep pockets and will put a lot of money into defeating this measure. They stand to lose funding, if it passes.
    Why would law enforcement be gearing up? What's the need for that?
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    "Given that reality, we don't need to add another mind-altering substance that compromises people's five senses," Lovell said
    Oh wait, he has no idea what he is talking about, and has probably never tried marijuana so how would he know what it does to the five senses?

    And by compromise, he really means enhanced.
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    It is going to be a tough road. Law enforcement groups are already gearing up against it. They have deep pockets and will put a lot of money into defeating this measure. They stand to lose funding, if it passes.
    It's not only law enforcement who stand to lose large chunks of their budget to continue this war on drugs farce, the breweries and drug manufacturers will be too. They both stand to lose a lot of money, and they coincidentally are/were major contributors to the "Partnership for a Drug Free America" which is nothing more than a corporate shill that has been feeding lies to the American youth and population in general for years.

    Here's a blurb from a great article by Christine Trudeau covering that:
    Corporations and politicians collude to transfer taxpayer money to corporations. When corporations seek to sanitize their image by portraying themselves as "good corporate citizens," they often choose to become "drug war partners."

    Some of the world's biggest corporate criminals are major contributors to drug war propagandists like Partnership for a Drug Free America (PDFA). Founded in 1986 by the American Association of Advertising Agencies, PDFA (until recently) received massive cash donations from the alcohol and tobacco industries.

    PDFA received tons of money from American Brands (Jim Beam whisky), Philip Morris (Marlboro and Virginia Slims cigarettes, Miller beer), Anheuser Busch (Budweiser, Michelob, Busch beer), and RJ Reynolds (Salem, Winston cigarettes).

    Bad publicity forced PDFA to reluctantly stop accepting such donations, but PDFA still receives hundreds of thousands of dollars from other major corporations, including Glaxo, Bayer, Coca Cola, Hoffman La Roche, and GE.

    The organization receives money from ketchup-laden Heinz Corporation foundations supervised by Teresa Heinz Kerry, who inherited $550 million from her late husband, US Senator John Heinz, and is now the very wealthy wife of Democrat John Kerry.

    PDFA estimates it has received at least $4.5 billion in pro bono support since 1987. Ironically, a significant portion of the "drug-free" Partnership's corporate cash comes from drug companies, companies that sell drugs for drug companies, and drug industry trade-lobbying groups.

    These include the National Association of Chain Drug Stores Foundation, Consumer Healthcare Products Association, Purdue Pharma L.P., The Bristol-Myers Squibb Foundation, Inc., The Procter & Gamble Fund, Bayer Corporation, GlaxoSmithKline, Kimberly-Clark, Pfizer Inc., Wyeth Consumer Healthcare Division, Endo Pharmaceuticals, Hoffmann-La Roche Inc., Merck & Co. and Walgreens.
    Those poll numbers above look lower than what I've seen over the years and lately. But even at 33%, if one third of the country thinks that a law is wrong, then there's a problem. Unfortunately, the people in charge now were either raised on these lies or they are in the pocket of the lobbyists, as usual.
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    Green Day said it best: American Idiot.

    This poll shows how many idiots there are in America.

    "Green Day" got their name from the band members smoking weed all day and having a "green day".



    The good news is that the November bill is voted on by the people, not the corrupt politicians.
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    well, most of the people who oppose it will be dead soon.
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    Not surprising. Older generations stick with older norms....
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    There's a sign in one of the schools I work at telling kids that marijuana causes cancer and will kill them if they touch it.
    I want to touch the butt.
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    btw this makes me rage so hard...I can't even stand it...


    PDFA estimates it has received at least $4.5 billion in pro bono support since 1987. Ironically, a significant portion of the "drug-free" Partnership's corporate cash comes from drug companies, companies that sell drugs for drug companies, and drug industry trade-lobbying groups.

    These include the National Association of Chain Drug Stores Foundation, Consumer Healthcare Products Association, Purdue Pharma L.P., The Bristol-Myers Squibb Foundation, Inc., The Procter & Gamble Fund, Bayer Corporation, GlaxoSmithKline, Kimberly-Clark, Pfizer Inc., Wyeth Consumer Healthcare Division, Endo Pharmaceuticals, Hoffmann-La Roche Inc., Merck & Co. and Walgreens.
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    Originally Posted by SaviorSix View Post
    btw this makes me rage so hard...I can't even stand it...
    And that info needs to be shared with everyone. I've yet to run into someone who was anti-marijuana that continued to hold those beliefs once the wool has been pulled away.

    The war on pot is nothing more than a LIE of colossal proportions.
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    Originally Posted by DocOH View Post
    And that info needs to be shared with everyone. I've yet to run into someone who was anti-marijuana that continued to hold those beliefs once the wool has been pulled away.

    The war on pot is nothing more than a LIE of colossal proportions.
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    "I think it would be chaos if it was legalized," said Shirley Williams, a 75-year-old retired English teacher from Quincy, Ill. "People would get in trouble and use marijuana as an excuse."

    Why do they even bother to include empty comments like this?
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    Originally Posted by Death Strike View Post
    "I think it would be chaos if it was legalized," said Shirley Williams, a 75-year-old retired English teacher from Quincy, Ill. "People would get in trouble and use marijuana as an excuse."

    Why do they even bother to include empty comments like this?
    sensationalist journalism

    thats my guess. ive stopped trying to understand the thought process with stuff like this. i heard it best when someone said "its like you have literally gone down the rabbit hole. its like we have actually gone through the looking glass."

    the only thing that makes sense about marijuana prohibition is that it doesn't make any sense
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    Originally Posted by Death Strike View Post
    "I think it would be chaos if it was legalized," said Shirley Williams, a 75-year-old retired English teacher from Quincy, Ill. "People would get in trouble and use marijuana as an excuse."

    Why do they even bother to include empty comments like this?
    dont worry shes 75, wont be too long now.
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    There's a sign in one of the schools I work at telling kids that marijuana causes cancer and will kill them if they touch it.
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    There's a sign in one of the schools I work at telling kids that marijuana causes cancer and will kill them if they touch it.
    do you work in the south?
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    These poll numbers are way to different from the poll in December showing 40% ish approval and HUGE regional differences between the west and east coasts.

    I am also very confused how the poll for legalization but with taxation is lower than just legalization. People suddenly became against legalization if it was taxxed?
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    I say legalize pot and tax it as long as they legalize steroids and all the prohormones they have banned!
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    Anyone who thinks pot should remain completely illegal has no idea what they are talking about. I have not heard 1 reasonable argument for why it should be illegal, especially when alcohol is perfectly legal and causes ridiculous amounts of deaths every year.
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    Originally Posted by kingtego View Post
    Anyone who thinks pot should remain completely illegal has no idea what they are talking about. I have not heard 1 reasonable argument for why it should be illegal, especially when alcohol is perfectly legal and causes ridiculous amounts of deaths every year.
    because it will be chaos!
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    Originally Posted by Klippymitch View Post
    Why would law enforcement be gearing up? What's the need for that?
    Like I said, they stand to lose funding if this measure passes. There is still a lot of money in pot busts.
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    Originally Posted by ToPHeR35 View Post
    Not surprising. Older generations stick with older norms....
    True. To a lot of older people, pot is associated with the hippies and the counter culture movement of the sixties. There is a bad perception of it.
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    Originally Posted by Thinman View Post
    Like I said, they stand to lose funding if this measure passes. There is still a lot of money in pot busts.
    Everytime someone calls out a cop for arresting non violent marijuana smokers the cop always says "we're just doing our job, speak to congress".

    And when legalization comes up, cops are out there preaching that we shouldn't legalize it.

    Fuking filthy hypocrite pigs.

    Yeah, they will lose funding. They make money by sending innocent people to jail. Think about that for a second...
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