How to Prepare for an entire day of drinking

[Mr.Cooper69]

Looking to maintain/clean bulk, currently 143 lbs, lifted heavy 2 days prior to this drinking session (did not exercise day before or day of). Long story short, I will be getting hammered ALL day tomorrow. Like we're talking from 1 PM to 1 AM. It is happening, so please don't tell me I'm stupid etc...I just want to know how I should prepare.

Im thinking 2 hours before drinking, I have a multivitamin/fish oil/flaxseed oil along with a breakfast of 12-15 egg whites, a grapefruit, and assorted veggies.

Then the drinking will begin. I'm going to try to stick with shots of hard alcohol and diet drinks, with the occasional light beer and mixed drink of diet soda and liquor.

I will also be doing my best not to eat during this whole affair, but I suspect that my willpower will eventually disappear at some point.

I will finally have a TON of water and another multivitamin before calling it a night.

So is this the right approach? Should I avoid all food while drinking? If I have to eat, what type of food should I get (I'll be out so no food prep possible)? Is my pre-drinking/post drinking plan ok?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!

[bartenda]

Age: 30

This your first time drinking? Just have fun and who gives a ****. Get back on track with your diet on Monday.

[Mr.Cooper69]

LOL the age is wrong, I'm 20. I binge drink on a weekly basis. Just saying, this time will be epic and with 12 straight hours of drinking, I'm not sure how to go about it. Like when I go out at night, I simply have a footlong at subway or something. But we're talking a whole day here of being wasted. Did my plan look alright?

[determined4000]

Cancel everything you are doing for the following day.

[Kewlaidxx]

LOL the age is wrong, I'm 20. I binge drink on a weekly basis. Just saying, this time will be epic and with 12 straight hours of drinking, I'm not sure how to go about it. Like when I go out at night, I simply have a footlong at subway or something. But we're talking a whole day here of being wasted. Did my plan look alright?

Lol if you are going to drink as much as you say you are, you BETTER have something to eat. ALOT. Or else it would be just stupid , but pretty ****ing epic if you ask me, to sit there for 12 hours and drink without eating anything.

[RyouBakua]

Long story short, I will be getting hammered ALL day tomorrow. Like we're talking from 1 PM to 1 AM. It is happening, so please don't tell me I'm stupid etc...I just want to know how I should prepare.

why even tell us

do it and then hop back in training mode



just as long as you dont get hurt or die from drinking (or something related)
itll probably be a learning experience

[Nab0610]

Lol if you are going to drink as much as you say you are, you BETTER have something to eat. ALOT. Or else it would be just stupid , but pretty ****ing epic if you ask me, to sit there for 12 hours and drink without eating anything.

Not as hard as it sounds if you have a high tolerance that is, you simply keep filling yourself with liquid, if your doing something and food isn't really around you probably won't think about it.

When I used to drink like that in the fall before football games, we'd start tailgating at like 11. I'd usually eat breakfast, or some food at the tailgate...drink beer for the next 3-4 hours go into the game. Get home pass out for a couple of hours, wake up and go downtown for 3-4 hours come home and pass out.

There were a few where I literally ate breakfast and that was it, but most times I'd either eat something before going out that night, or food after leaving the clubs.

I'm also a person that doesn't get hangovers though, I'd wake up the next day drink a **** load of water and go do a good hour of cardio. For me it never seemed to affect my gains or affect my fat loss when cutting.

One time I made the mistake of eating a **** ton of food at one of the tailgates, eating out after the game, eating FF before going downtown, than pizza at 3 am...needless to say I gained 5 lbs in one day, but dropped 3 after hitting the gym that morning...

One day won't kill your progress man, especially at your age...just as long as that one day doesn't stretch into 2-3 days lol.

[kmac27]

Lets just say your wallet may take a big hit. Thats a lot of alcohol!

[goontoon]

Ive heard that greasy food before surrrrious drinking helps.. tons of water while drinking helps too if you can stomach all the liquid.

Personally, any large meal prior to drinking helps lol
Drinking on an empty stomach is basically suicide for me.. I'll get smashed senseless in 30 minutes let alone an entire day

but anyhow.. have fun =D

[transformergirl]

When alcohol is consumed, it enters the bloodstream and causes the pituary gland in the brain to block the creation of vasopressin (also known as the anti diuretic hormone). Without this chemical, the kidneys send water directly to the bladder instead of reabsorbing it into the body. This is why when you drink, you make frequent trips to the bathroom after urinating for the first time after drinking.

Drinking about 250millilitres of an alcoholic beverage causes the body to expel 800 to 1,000 millilitres of water. That's four times as much liquid lost as gained. This diurectic effect decreases as the alcohol in the bloodstream decreases, but the aftereffects helps create a hangover.

The morning after drinking, the body sends a desperate message to replenish it's water supply usually manifested in the form of an extremely dry mouth. Headaches result from dehydration because the body's organs try to make up for thier own water loss by stealing water from the brain, causing the brain to decrease in size and pull on the membranes that connect the brain to the skull, resulting in pain.

The frequest urination also expels salts and potassium that are necessary for proper nerve function and muscle function; when potassium and sodium levels get too low, headaches, fatigue, and nausea can result. Alcohol also breaks down the body's store of glycogen in the liver, turning the chemical into glucose and sending it out of the body in the urine. Lack of energy of this key energy source is partly responsible for the weakness, fatigue and lack of coordination the next morning.

In addition, the diuretic effects expels vital electrolytes such as potassium and magnesium, which are necessary fro proper cell function.

Biology of a Hangover: Acetaldehyde

A product of alcohol metabolism that is more toxic than alcohol itself, acetaldehyde is created when the alcohol in the liver is broken down by an enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase. The acetaldehyde is then attacked by another enzyme, acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, and another substance called glutathione, which contains high quantities of cysteine (a substance that is attracted to acetaldehyde). Together, the acetaldehyde dehydrogenase and the glutathione form the nontoxic acetate (a substance similar to vinegar). This process works well, leaving the acetaldehyde only a short amount of time to do its damage if only a few drinks are consumed.

Unfortunately, the liver's stores of glutathione quickly run out when larger amounts of alcohol enter the system. This causes the acetaldehyde to build up in the body as the liver creates more glutathione, leaving the toxin in the body for long periods of time. In studies that blocked the enzyme that breaks down acetaldehyde (acetaldehyde dehydrogenase) with a drug called Antabuse, designed to fight alcoholism, acetaldehyde toxicity resulted in headaches and vomiting so bad that even alcoholics were wary of their next drink. Although body weight is a factor, part of the reason women should not keep up with men drink-for-drink is because women have less acetaldehyde dehydrogenase and glutathione, making their hangovers worse because it takes longer for the body to break down the alcohol.

Some of the most common hangover symptoms -- fatigue, stomach irritation and a general sense of illness all over -- can be further attributed to something called glutamine rebound. In the next section, we'll see what this aftereffect is all about.


Biology of a Hangover: Glutamine Rebound

After a night of alcohol consumption, a drinker won't sleep as soundly as normal because the body is rebounding from alcohol's depressive effect on the system. When someone is drinking, alcohol inhibits glutamine, one of the body's natural stimulants. When the drinker stops drinking, the body tries to make up for lost time by producing more glutamine than it needs.

The increase in glutamine levels stimulates the brain while the drinker is trying to sleep, keeping them from reaching the deepest, most healing levels of slumber. This is a large contributor to the fatigue felt with a hangover. Severe glutamine rebound during a hangover also may be responsible for tremors, anxiety, restlessness and increased blood pressure.

Because alcohol is absorbed directly through the stomach, the cells that line the organ become irritated. Alcohol also promotes secretion of hydrochloric acid in the stomach, eventually causing the nerves to send a message to the brain that the stomach's contents are hurting the body and must be expelled through vomiting. This mechanism can actually lessen hangover symptoms in the long run because vomiting gets rid of the alcohol in the stomach and reduces the number of toxins the body has to deal with. The stomach's irritation may also be a factor in some of the other unpleasant symptoms of a hangover, such as diarrhea and lack of appetite.

So now we know why alcohol causes hangovers. In the following sections, we'll look at the science behind the most common hangover "cures."


Food and Drink Remedies - Fact or Fiction?

Hangover remedies include everything from "a hair of the dog that bit you" (drinking a little more alcohol the next morning), to burnt toast and black coffee to an over-the-counter product like Chaser. Which of all the endless theoretical remedies actually have truth behind them?

Hair of the Dog

Contrary to popular belief, more of the "hair of the dog that bit you" only delays the inevitable. One of the reasons hangovers are so unpleasant is the liver is still processing the toxins left over from alcohol metabolism. Drinking more alcohol can make the symptoms seem to lessen at first but will only make the situation worse once the liver breaks the alcohol down, because it will have even more toxins to deal with.

Conclusion:
FICTION - Remedy


Burnt Toast

At first, the burnt toast remedy may seem that it's actually based on scientific fact. The culprit behind this fictional cure is the carbon in the charred bread. Carbon can act like a filter in the body. While it's true that activated charcoal (which is a treated form of carbon) is used to treat some types of poisonings, it's not currently used to treat alcohol poisoning (something that is vastly different from a regular hangover).

The carbon/charcoal found on burnt toast is not the same as activated charcoal.

Conclusion:
FICTION - Prevention and Remedy


Black Coffee

Coffee contains a high amount of caffeine, which is a stimulant and therefore helps fight fatigue. But when the caffeine wears off, a drinker may be even more tired than before. Coffee can help alleviate a pounding head because caffeine is a vasoconstrictor, meaning it reduces the size of blood vessels. This counteracts the effect of the alcohol, which makes them swell, making the head hurt in the first place. Unfortunately, caffeine is also a diuretic like alcohol and can make a drinker even more dehydrated than before, thereby increasing the severity of the hangover. Overall, coffee isn't a good hangover cure.

Conclusion:
FICTION - Remedy


Fried or Fatty Foods

Although eating fried or fatty foods the morning after will probably only irritate a drinker's stomach further, eating them before drinking can actually be helpful. Putting anything in the stomach prior to indulging in alcohol helps prevent a hangover, but fatty foods in particular stick to the stomach lining longer and therefore slow down the absorption of alcohol into the bloodstream. While that might make it take longer to feel the alcohol's effects, it also gives the body more time to process the byproducts and will increase a drinker's chances of feeling decent in the morning. So much so, in fact, that a Mediterranean folk tactic is to take a spoonful of olive oil before drinking alcohol. Eating lighter food such as a fruit smoothie will provide energy and alleviate some symptoms by replenishing the electrolytes the body lost from dehydration.

Conclusion:
FACT - Prevention
FICTION - Remedy


Eggs

Eating eggs the morning after provides energy like any other food, which is the primary benefit. But eggs do also contain large amounts of cysteine, the substance that breaks down the hangover-causing toxin acetaldehyde in the liver's easily depleted glutathione. Therefore, eggs can potentially help mop up the left-over toxins.

Conclusion:
FACT - Remedy

Bananas

Eating bananas the morning after a night of heavy drinking provides lost electrolytes like any food would, but it also specifically replenishes the potassium lost to alcohol's diuretic effect. Other potassium-rich foods such as kiwi fruit or sports drinks work just as well.

Conclusion:
FACT - Remedy


Water

Replenishing the body's water supply after a night of drinking combats dehydration, and it also helps dilute the leftover byproducts in the stomach. Adding salt and sugar to water helps replace the sodium and glycogen lost the night before. Non-caffeinated, non-carbonated sports drinks can achieve the same effect.

As a prevention method, drinking a glass of water for every alcoholic beverage slows down drinking, providing more time for the body to deal with the alcohol (the body can only process about three-quarters of an ounce of alcohol in an hour). Drinking a few glasses of water before going to bed helps fight dehydration after the body finishes breaking down the alcohol.

Conclusion:
FACT - Prevention and Remedy


Fruit Juice

*The fructose -- fruit sugar -- in fruit juice helps to naturally increase the body's energy. Studies have proven that it also increases the rate at which the body gets rid of toxins such as those left over from alcohol metabolism. Fruit juice is also a good idea the morning after because it's high in vitamins and nutrients that were depleted the night before because of alcohol's diuretic effect. Vitamin supplements high in vitamins C and B are also effective.

Conclusion:
FACT - Remedy


cont in next post...

[transformergirl]

Other Remedies - Fact or Fiction?

Painkillers

Certain painkillers are more effective at combating a hangover than others. For instance, Excedrin can be helpful for a headache because it combines acetaminophen for the pain and caffeine to reduce the size of the pounding blood vessels; however, prolonged combination of alcohol and acetaminophen has been shown to cause liver damage, and caffeine is a diuretic.

Aspirin is a non-caffeinated pain reliever and is also in a class of anti-inflammatory drugs known as prostaglandin inhibitors. High levels of prostaglandin have been associated with increased hangover severity. In one study, participants who took a prostaglandin inhibitor before bed reported less of a headache and less nausea and thirst than those who had drank the same amount of alcohol but did not take the prostaglandin inhibitor before bed. If you have a sensitive stomach, though, beware -- taking aspirin after drinking can make your stomach hurt even worse.

Conclusion:
FACT - Prevention and Remedy if non-caffeinated and acetaminophen-free


Over-the-counter Remedies

Hangover remedies such as Chaser, Sob'r-K Hangover Stopper, RU-21, Berocca and Rebound are highly varied both in price and ingredients, so their effectiveness varies accordingly. They're classified as dietary supplements, meaning:

They contain vitamins and minerals.
They don't require a prescription.
They're usually taken in pill form.

The manufacturers claim these products work because they make use of the effective filtering qualities of carbon to reduce the number of impurities the body has to process (see "Burnt Toast" in the last section for the science on that one). As for RU-21, marketed as a secret KGB pill, the manufacturer says specifically that it is not an anti-hangover pill but a supplement for detoxification. (By the way, its main ingredients -- dextrose, L-Glutamine and vitamin C -- can be found in high amounts in everyday foods). Rebound has the same ingredients as RU-21 plus a few other vitamins and oddities such as "young barley grass juice powder," but it's still basically a multivitamin. Berocca, again, is not a hangover cure -- it's simply a multivitamin that claims to increase energy naturally (through vitamins).

The secret to most of these purported "miracle cures" may in fact be the amount of water a drinker ingests when taking them. Many require taking a pill (or two) with a glass (or two) of water before drinking alcohol, and then continuing to take the pills over the course of the evening with full glasses of water, before bed with a full glass of water, and upon waking with a full glass of water. The hydration alone greatly improves the chances of having little-to-no hangover, and the vitamins in the pills just give it a little, albeit expensive, boost.

Conclusion:
FICTION - Prevention and Remedy


Time

The only complete cure for a hangover is time. No matter what a drinker does, the body still has to clean up all the toxic byproducts left over from the evening before. But the above factual remedies can help speed up the process.

Conclusion:
FACT - Remedy


*The only fool-proof way to avoid a hangover, of course, is not to drink alcohol. But from a scientific perspective, researchers have found the following general regimen minimizes the symptoms of a hangover.

Before Drinking:

Eat a full meal -

A full stomach slows down the absorption of alcohol, giving the body more time to process the toxins. Fatty foods and carbohydrates increase this effect. Having food in the stomach also decreases stomach irritation, in turn reducing the likelihood that a drinker will vomit. (See Biology of a Hangover.)

Drink a glass of water

- This ensures the body is hydrated before the diuretic effect takes hold.

Take multivitamins

- This better prepares the body for the depletion of vitamins caused by frequent urination.
Before Drinking

Drink in moderation

- Ideally, drinkers should limit themselves to one drink per hour because the body takes about an hour to process a single drink.

Drink a glass of water after every alcoholic beverage

- In addition to helping keep a drinker hydrated, this will give the body more time to process the alcohol, dilute the toxins and reduce irritation of the stomach. A sports drink like Gatorade or Propel will also replenish electrolytes, salts and sugars lost in the urine.

Watch your drink choice

- Drinkers generally fare better when they stick with one drink. Each new type of alcohol a drinker puts into his or her system makes the body work that much harder and puts that many more toxins in the body, leading to a more severe hangover.

Here's a rundown of the major types of alcohol and their effects:

Beer has the lowest percentage of alcohol (4 to 6 percent), but it's also carbonated, which speeds up the absorption and can lead to toxin buildup.

Wine has a higher percentage of alcohol (7 to 15 percent) than beer, but it's usually not carbonated.

White wine is safer than red or blush because it has fewer congeners. In general, the cheaper the wine, the higher the congener content and the worse the hangover.

Liquor has the highest alcohol content (40 to 95 percent) and therefore increases the likelihood of a hangover.

Clear liquors like vodka, rum and gin are better bets than dark or sweet liquors like bourbon, scotch or tequila because they have fewer congeners.

Generally, cheaper liquor will result in a worse hangover than more expensive liquor.


After Drinking:

Before Bed


Take two aspirin with a full glass of water - The prostaglandin inhibitors in the aspirin can decrease hangover severity.

In the Morning

Take two more aspirin with a full glass of water - This has been shown to minimize headaches as well as decrease inflammation from leftover prostaglandin.

Take another multivitamin - Replenishing C and B vitamins in particular can help get rid of the rest of the toxins.

Eat breakfast - A meal that includes eggs (for the cysteine), a banana (for the potassium), and fruit juice (for the fructose) or a sports drink (for the electrolytes, sugars and salts) can get the body on the road to recovery. Keep in mind that caffeinated coffee, tea and soda will further dehydrate a drinker.


Hope all the info helps!!!!

[ALEXH-]

^^ Strong post.

Man just have fun. You live once. Get back on diet on Monday

[Lakattack0221]

Would you suggest eating anything while going out at night then? For instance, say you don't want to gain a lot of weight... do you still drink a protein shake, if possible, while you're out?

[FunkymonkAW]

Could always give Martin's protocol a try:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html

[Kirra]

Could always give Martin's protocol a try:

http://www.leangains.com/2010/07/tru...nd-muscle.html

Ca ITT to post this. Left satisfied.

[desslok]

I do similar whenever I visit my friends that live at the beach. I pretty much snack on salted pretzels while drinking, try to drink water between drinks, we usually hit up the sishi bar. Then I try to drink a bunch of water before going to bed.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Strong 2 year bump. ****ing state pattys day, probably took in 5k cals worth of alcohol that day, if only berkhan had written his protocol at the time.

[synthetic]

Strong 2 year bump. ****ing state pattys day, probably took in 5k cals worth of alcohol that day, if only berkhan had written his protocol at the time.

is this binge drinking getting you laid as much as you like?

[soccerkid621]

Ill be at State Pattys this year...pumped

[Mr.Cooper69]

is this binge drinking getting you laid as much as you like?

Again, that was 2 years ago. Let me guess, no drugs or alcohol in college is the right thing to do?

Inb4 transfat study extrapolations

Ill be at State Pattys this year...pumped

Always a good time.

[synthetic]

Again, that was 2 years ago. Let me guess, no drugs or alcohol in college is the right thing to do?

Inb4 transfat study extrapolations



Always a good time.

moderation boss - nurse the drink. And there are tricks, for instance I would make sure I do diet coke + vodka, and if i feel im going over i just have diet coke and no one needs to know there is no vodka

[Mr.Cooper69]

moderation boss - nurse the drink. And there are tricks, for instance I would make sure I do diet coke + vodka, and if i feel im going over i just have diet coke and no one needs to know there is no vodka

Understood, and sure enough, most of my nights I do not drink heavily but rather for enjoyment. We've all had those nights where we need to unload though, early in college moreso than now.

[JerG]

Sup Cyrus brahhhhh

[Mr.Cooper69]

Sup Cyrus brahhhhh

This thread needs to die. Now