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    Weight Lifting & NO Cardio

    Is it bad to do weight lifting and not do cardio at all? Will that really effect me or will ti mean it will be easier to bulk?
    “Just because we are separated by a few thousand miles, it doesn’t give us the excuse to act in ways that are not acceptable in real life."
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    Originally Posted by Madmaximillion View Post
    Is it bad to do weight lifting and not do cardio at all? Will that really effect me or will ti mean it will be easier to bulk?
    i dont do it..i should but i dont
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    Originally Posted by CoryATL16 View Post
    i dont do it..i should but i dont
    what do you mean by, you should do it?
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    Originally Posted by Madmaximillion View Post
    what do you mean by, you should do it?
    i have fat from my bulk on me
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    I don't really do cardio either
    if you do, keep it short and intense, otherwise youll risk breaking down muscle for energy
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    Originally Posted by MiracleLad View Post
    I don't really do cardio either
    if you do, keep it short and intense, otherwise youll risk breaking down muscle for energy
    so if I want to be lean nd ripped it doesn't matter if I don't do any cardio?
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    Originally Posted by Madmaximillion View Post
    so if I want to be lean nd ripped it doesn't matter if I don't do any cardio?
    eh not really man. Then again, im a lucky bastard when it comes to my metabolism, so i dont really need cardio to stay that lean. I just throw it in there for general health reasons and sports.
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    do some cardio to keep fit and allow little fat on bulk, otherwise your cut will be harder
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    heart health, compared to the average american who doesnt do any cardio at all or lift weights or eat right, u r doing pretty well, but u should throw in sum cardio here and there, it really doesnt burn that many calories at all, prob 150 cals burned through an intense 10 min run.
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    Originally Posted by Madmaximillion View Post
    Is it bad to do weight lifting and not do cardio at all? Will that really effect me or will ti mean it will be easier to bulk?
    Why would it be bad to work the most important part of your body? YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO CARDIO, doesn't matter if you're bulking/cutting especially if you're an endo then you seriously need to hit the cardio atleast 3 times a weak of low-medium intensity 30minute sessions.
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    Originally Posted by CLandry View Post
    Why would it be bad to work the most important part of your body? YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO CARDIO, doesn't matter if you're bulking/cutting especially if you're an endo then you seriously need to hit the cardio atleast 3 times a weak of low-medium intensity 30minute sessions.
    thanks..I normally go for a jog when I first wake up.
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    I usually do a little bit of cardio after I lift. Though lately I havent cause I get in cardio at school in gym class so yea...
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    Originally Posted by Pbstar13 View Post
    I usually do a little bit of cardio after I lift. Though lately I havent cause I get in cardio at school in gym class so yea...
    I normally go for a 30min jog on my off days.
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    Originally Posted by Madmaximillion View Post
    I normally go for a 30min jog on my off days.
    Keep doing it man.

    The muscle break down crap is a load of bull.

    Keep doing that cardio and keep your heart healthy. I made the mistake of putting on a bunch of weight without any cardio and my heart is giving me **** for it.

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    Originally Posted by CajunPballer View Post
    Keep doing it man.

    The muscle break down crap is a load of bull.

    Keep doing that cardio and keep your heart healthy. I made the mistake of putting on a bunch of weight without any cardio and my heart is giving me **** for it.

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    please do explain am curious!
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    Originally Posted by Pbstar13 View Post
    please do explain am curious!
    Muscle breakdown is extremely inefficient and in itself takes energy. To use muscle as an energy source it must be broken down into aminos, then stripped of the amine group so the useful CHO's can be used, then those CHO's have to be turned into glucose where it can THEN be used as energy.

    The body would much prefer to use the glycogen already stored and ready for use in the muscles, as well as the fat that only has to be stripped of the glycerol which can be used for energy.

    Using muscle is somewhat of a last resort. There is speculation that the body starts getting rid of muscle to make you lighter so as to make the job easier, but I don't really buy that.

    Long story short, there are too many mechanisms for energy for the body to resort to the least efficient of them all. Do cardio, it's good for your heart. Don't do it on lifting days, however.


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    Originally Posted by CajunPballer View Post
    Muscle breakdown is extremely inefficient and in itself takes energy. To use muscle as an energy source it must be broken down into aminos, then stripped of the amine group so the useful CHO's can be used, then those CHO's have to be turned into glucose where it can THEN be used as energy.

    The body would much prefer to use the glycogen already stored and ready for use in the muscles, as well as the fat that only has to be stripped of the glycerol which can be used for energy.

    Using muscle is somewhat of a last resort. There is speculation that the body starts getting rid of muscle to make you lighter so as to make the job easier, but I don't really buy that.

    Long story short, there are too many mechanisms for energy for the body to resort to the least efficient of them all. Do cardio, it's good for your heart. Don't do it on lifting days, however.


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    No I meant please explain how your heart was giving you **** lol. BTW thanks anyways thats was intersetng.
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    Originally Posted by Pbstar13 View Post
    No I meant please explain how your heart was giving you **** lol. BTW thanks anyways thats was intersetng.
    Oh, I get winded easily, and running isn't really possible right now. I can only run 4 laps around 3 basketball courts before I have to stop and take a short break.
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    I don't do cardio if that means anything.
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    Originally Posted by CajunPballer View Post
    Oh, I get winded easily, and running isn't really possible right now. I can only run 4 laps around 3 basketball courts before I have to stop and take a short break.
    Oh gotcha! I guess the only thing to do is build up to more.
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    Originally Posted by CajunPballer View Post
    Muscle breakdown is extremely inefficient and in itself takes energy. To use muscle as an energy source it must be broken down into aminos, then stripped of the amine group so the useful CHO's can be used, then those CHO's have to be turned into glucose where it can THEN be used as energy.

    The body would much prefer to use the glycogen already stored and ready for use in the muscles, as well as the fat that only has to be stripped of the glycerol which can be used for energy.

    Using muscle is somewhat of a last resort. There is speculation that the body starts getting rid of muscle to make you lighter so as to make the job easier, but I don't really buy that.

    Long story short, there are too many mechanisms for energy for the body to resort to the least efficient of them all. Do cardio, it's good for your heart. Don't do it on lifting days, however.


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    very good post, but please could you explain why not to do cardio after lifting as ive been considering it.
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    Originally Posted by danny6488 View Post
    very good post, but please could you explain why not to do cardio after lifting as ive been considering it.
    Because weight lifting is an anabolic process, and cardio is catabolic. You don't want to force your body to be catabolic when it should be anabolic (post workout when the body starts recovering).

    I've seen many guys do some light-moderate cardio for about 10 minutes post workout. That should be fine. Just save the more intense cardio for your off days.
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    Originally Posted by danny6488 View Post
    very good post, but please could you explain why not to do cardio after lifting as ive been considering it.
    I don't see the big deal unless your gonna do like two hours of it..but a good 30mins wouldn't be bad..next time your in the gym look at who is doing cardio and you will see people that are ripped doing some.
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    Originally Posted by CajunPballer View Post
    Because weight lifting is an anabolic process, and cardio is catabolic. You don't want to force your body to be catabolic when it should be anabolic (post workout when the body starts recovering).

    I've seen many guys do some light-moderate cardio for about 10 minutes post workout. That should be fine. Just save the more intense cardio for your off days.
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    I don't see the big deal unless your gonna do like two hours of it..but a good 30mins wouldn't be bad..next time your in the gym look at who is doing cardio and you will see people that are ripped doing some.
    cheers guys and i was talkin about a low intensity 30 mins at max on the bike or something, beacuse my split looks like

    mon - upper
    tues - lower
    wed - off
    thurs - upper
    fri - lower
    sat - off
    sun - off

    i dont really want to do cardio on the weekend so that just leaves wed my only cardio day but cardio after the workout isnt an option ill have to do it on the weekend

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    For me I just do 10 minutes medium intensity on the treadmill to warm up before I do any lifting.

    That's just to avoid injury.
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    Why wouldn't you do some sort of cardio it's just overall good for your health.
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    I am not the right person to post here since I am on a double edged effort to lose weight and gain muscle but losing weight is a priority. I will give my 2 cents anywayze. What I noticed is if I am giving in equal efforts of both my body feels fine, better actually. But every now and then I go a week or two focusing on just one of those things ( just a way to mix things up)...so during the week I only do weights and no cardio my body feels a lot heavier and muscles and back ache a lot more

    ... so yea to answer your question cardio is deftly good. Bodybuilding is not natural you are forcing your body to grow beyond its original mass (same with obesity) so you need to give your skeleton and bones a break by reducing fat. They dont want to have carry out extra baggage all day
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    Originally Posted by ya5er View Post
    I am not the right person to post here since I am on a double edged effort to lose weight and gain muscle but losing weight is a priority. I will give my 2 cents anywayze. What I noticed is if I am giving in equal efforts of both my body feels fine, better actually. But every now and then I go a week or two focusing on just one of those things ( just a way to mix things up)...so during the week I only do weights and no cardio my body feels a lot heavier and muscles and back ache a lot more

    ... so yea to answer your question cardio is deftly good. Bodybuilding is not natural you are forcing your body to grow beyond its original mass (same with obesity) so you need to give your skeleton and bones a break by reducing fat. They dont want to have carry out extra baggage all day
    im sorry but thats the most stupid thing ive ever heard, when you lift weights your muscle fibres tear then your body uses protein to repair the micro tears and overcompensates and add a little more on to adapt to that certain weight. how that is not natural i don't know its just the bodys way of adapting of the stress/demand its put under

    exactly the same principle with wolffs law and bones
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