My rpn Havoc cycle , have a look

[justdoit08]

Hi

i have been doing my research on my second ph, i have mostly been using Tuned sports website as its soo helpful and saves on making threads on here. Ive also been researching through google on other forums etc.

My goal on this cycle will be to increase my strength and LBM while cutting down on bodyfat as much as possible. Ill be increasing my calorie and water intake as much as possible on cycle.


dosing like above will make me use exactly one bottle for one month, i still am unsure about running it for 4 , 5 or 6 weeks?

On cycle:

Rpn HAVOC
cel assist + liv 52 (preloading both 10 days)
Orange triad multi and joint supplement
taurine 5g a da just to keep away any pumps as i hated them on hdrol
zma

Pct:

Nolva 20/20/20/10
Creatine
test booster, i dont know which one to choose, out of bio forge, act xtreme, t bol,
Maybe a cortisol control product (unsure as of yet if its worth buying)


I have some questions though:

what dosage do i run the liv 52?

what test booster do i choose out of all these that will help my test get back up in pct?

Have i missing anything, ive thought about this a long time but even then i might have missed something out?

[bucknut22]

liv 52 as directed on the bottle (for preloading, some cheap milk thistle should suffice).

If using nolva (Not gaspari Novadex xt) then test booster really unnecessary. If you want to add it on thats fine, i dont think its gonna make a huge difference.

Nolva, creatine, and maybe a pre-workout for lethargy are the only supps you really need during pct.

[2high2die]

I'd always suggest using something else alongside a serm in case it is bunk. This only applies to the research chemicals and not the prescription grade.

[bucknut22]

Assuming you got the SERM from a reputable source, you should be okay, but a natty test booster cant hurt.

[justdoit08]

liv 52 as directed on the bottle (for preloading, some cheap milk thistle should suffice).

If using nolva (Not gaspari Novadex xt) then test booster really unnecessary. If you want to add it on thats fine, i dont think its gonna make a huge difference.

Nolva, creatine, and maybe a pre-workout for lethargy are the only supps you really need during pct.

so you think instead of cel cycle assist, i should just use liv 52 and milk thistle?, what about b.p etc as i had a bp problem on hdrol..

[justdoit08]

Assuming you got the SERM from a reputable source, you should be okay, but a natty test booster cant hurt.

well i used the same nolva on my hdrol cycle and i was up and running after pct, so i got half left over sealed in a container so im going to use the same one now, but never hurts to add in a test booster, just dont know which one to choose LOL

[zeebodybuilder]

Hi

i have been doing my research on my second ph, i have mostly been using Tuned sports website as its soo helpful and saves on making threads on here. Ive also been researching through google on other forums etc.

My goal on this cycle will be to increase my strength and LBM while cutting down on bodyfat as much as possible. Ill be increasing my calorie and water intake as much as possible on cycle.


dosing like above will make me use exactly one bottle for one month, i still am unsure about running it for 4 , 5 or 6 weeks?

On cycle:

Rpn HAVOC
cel assist + liv 52 (preloading both 10 days)
Orange triad multi and joint supplement
taurine 5g a da just to keep away any pumps as i hated them on hdrol
zma

Pct:

Nolva 20/20/20/10
Creatine
test booster, i dont know which one to choose, out of bio forge, act xtreme, t bol,
Maybe a cortisol control product (unsure as of yet if its worth buying)


I have some questions though:

what dosage do i run the liv 52?

what test booster do i choose out of all these that will help my test get back up in pct?

Have i missing anything, ive thought about this a long time but even then i might have missed something out?

That looks like the kindA Stack Shafiq would run??

Send Shafiq a Pm if you got any more Questions...

[bucknut22]

so you think instead of cel cycle assist, i should just use liv 52 and milk thistle?, what about b.p etc as i had a bp problem on hdrol..

hawthorn berry can help with the bp, but if you have cel cycle assist use that during cycle. I honestly think its a waste to run that pre cycle, but thats just me.

I used thermolife T-bol when I was running an OTC PCT, the girlfriend enjoyed, but i don't really know how well it worked. I wouldn't recommend doing it OTC PCT (more knowledgeable now), but if you want to use your serm and a test booster like tbol that should be fine.