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    Eating Vs Not Eating

    I was down to about 1350 cals per day. This is what I calculated to lose 2lbs per week.

    People freak out when I tell them this, and they give me advice on how I should eat more and do cardio.

    So my question is, whats the difference between eating 1350 cals per day
    or eatin 1900 cals per day and burning off 550 cals with some cardio?

    Either ways its 1350 cals.

    This type of diet has worked very well for me (down 25 lbs) but I have noticed that I am getting stuck so I have ramped my cals up to 1600 and will add some light cardio.

    Just wondered if there really is a difference or not.
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    such a calorie deficit can be good for weighloss. However, with such a deficit, you are losing a lot of muscle too. Whenever you lose weight at such a rapid pace, it's hard not to lose muscle along with fat.
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    Originally Posted by cmurray View Post
    such a calorie deficit can be good for weighloss. However, with such a deficit, you are losing a lot of muscle too. Whenever you lose weight at such a rapid pace, it's hard not to lose muscle along with fat.
    So eating 1900 and burning 550 helps preserve more muscle mass than just eating 1350 to begin with? How/Why?
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    I'd do whatever is easier for you, cardio has good health benefits but if you'd rather not do it then eat at 1350. And if you're stuck why not stay at 1350 and add light cardio?
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    Why not just go at a slower pace? You will preserve more muscle and be able to enjoy more food daily.

    Provided that you have enough protein and lift heavy, muscle loss will be minimized.
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    I notice when I do cardio, my strenght goes down when I lift weights.

    Despite a low cal diet, the weights I lift have increased. Though I am unable to work out sets to dall all areas of the body. My shoulders are lagging because of this. Just no energy.
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    Originally Posted by skydve76 View Post
    I notice when I do cardio, my strenght goes down when I lift weights.

    Despite a low cal diet, the weights I lift have increased. Though I am unable to work out sets to dall all areas of the body. My shoulders are lagging because of this. Just no energy.
    Eat more food then(carbs preferably), you are in a pretty big deficit, of course you are going to be low on energy.
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    Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift View Post
    Eat more food then(carbs preferably), you are in a pretty big deficit, of course you are going to be low on energy.
    Of course! My original goal was to drop that nasty fat, and I have done most of it. Now I am basically going for vanity so maybe I should slow it down.

    I think I'll stick with 1600 cals, does that sound more reasonable?
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    Originally Posted by skydve76 View Post
    Of course! My original goal was to drop that nasty fat, and I have done most of it. Now I am basically going for vanity so maybe I should slow it down.

    I think I'll stick with 1600 cals, does that sound more reasonable?
    try 1800. A little more fat and a good 75g of carbs or so

    you will feel WAY better
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    Originally Posted by skydve76 View Post
    So eating 1900 and burning 550 helps preserve more muscle mass than just eating 1350 to begin with? How/Why?
    Take everything in with grain of salt bro. What the point of upping the calories? You'll be burning that **** off with cardio, which leads you back to point A w/ same deficit or less (cardio doesn't accurately burn the same amount, the less you weight the less calories burned).
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    Personal preferences on upping the calorie intake & than reducing it again with cardio, I find it a pain, but whatever...

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    I did low cals and to much cardio at one stage and ended up putting the weight back on and then dropped it again at a slower rate and at the same scale weight I looked alot better that before as I probaly lost muscle and then put the weight back on and gained it back and cut the fat off only the 2nd time round.

    Do you wanna be a skeleton whaen your finished and eat really low cals or do you wanna be lean?

    Also your at 177lbs already so you can't drop that much more even if you have a small musle frame under the fat so 1lbs a week at your points is excalty what I would be happy with
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    Originally Posted by Dominikm View Post
    I did low cals and to much cardio at one stage and ended up putting the weight back on and then dropped it again at a slower rate and at the same scale weight I looked alot better that before as I probaly lost muscle and then put the weight back on and gained it back and cut the fat off only the 2nd time round.

    Do you wanna be a skeleton whaen your finished and eat really low cals or do you wanna be lean?

    Also your at 177lbs already so you can't drop that much more even if you have a small musle frame under the fat so 1lbs a week at your points is excalty what I would be happy with
    I'm hoping to get to 170. I was at 205 so my original goal was to "lose fat, and I don't care what it takes". Now that I did that, may be time to reformulate a plan.

    Thats why I was asking in here about eating more and doing cardio.

    BTW, I lost 25 lb in about 5 months so while that is a good loss, it wasn't a "fast loss", so I think I can keep it off assuming I don't have health issues. going to a doctor in May for that.
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