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    Idebenone vs Ubiquinol vs Coq10

    Which is better to get and why?
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    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    Which is better to get and why?

    What benefits of CoQ10 are you hoping to see or for what reason do you want to take it? Or is it for someone else?

    The best form to take depends on several factors, including age as far as I know.
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    ubiquinol is the superior form.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    What benefits of CoQ10 are you hoping to see or for what reason do you want to take it? Or is it for someone else?

    The best form to take depends on several factors, including age as far as I know.
    please elaborate (srs)
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    What benefits of CoQ10 are you hoping to see or for what reason do you want to take it? Or is it for someone else?

    The best form to take depends on several factors, including age as far as I know.
    fat oxidation mostly
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    What benefits of CoQ10 are you hoping to see or for what reason do you want to take it? Or is it for someone else?

    The best form to take depends on several factors, including age as far as I know.
    Anti-aging, mitochondrial health, antioxidant, heart health? But I am sure you know the benefits of it Maybe someone young and healthy doesn't need it as much, but I agree age and other factors will come into effect.
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    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    The difference in fat oxidations rates is insignificant.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    The difference in fat oxidations rates is insignificant.
    but wouldn't bioavailability be a factor?
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    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    but wouldn't bioavailability be a factor?
    co q10 has to be converted to an active antioxidant in the body.Ubiquinol is the active antioxidant,so it is much better.However someone younger can get away with supplementing with co q10.

    even at my young age I still pay the money for ubiquinol for many reasons.
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    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    but wouldn't bioavailability be a factor?
    Ubiquinol is better than any old Co-Q10, but I have a hard time reasoning it would have made a significant difference. In any case, the problem with thinking that study provides support for greater fat burning (albeit insignificant if that were the case) is that HR was used to establish the intensity. HR is notorious for being inconsistant / imperfect for fine tuning uniform intensity and energy expenditure especially at the substrate level. In other words, at 100 bpm one person could be working harder or not than the next person. With the small sample size all it takes with the luck of the draw that a few are working harder at a lower HR and a few have a higher HR but not working as hard and the gap shows up. Unfortuately they provided none of the detailed RE information. I wonder if people from Nitto Pharmaceutical Industries, who supplied the supplements, were there helping out
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    Ive always used Idebenone, but Ive always wondered how it compared to Ubiquinol. Ibedenone is very hard to come by.
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    Originally Posted by Zachattack43 View Post
    Ive always used Idebenone, but Ive always wondered how it compared to Ubiquinol. Ibedenone is very hard to come by.
    i use coq10...........I'm missing something aren't I?
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    not missing anything with ibedenone.
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    Originally Posted by bloodsimple1234 View Post
    not missing anything with ibedenone.
    but who sells it now?
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    Originally Posted by Zachattack43 View Post
    but who sells it now?
    is it still included in cycle support? I know CN use to sell it too.
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    Originally Posted by bloodsimple1234 View Post
    is it still included in cycle support? I know CN use to sell it too.
    I think you can only get it directly from their site.
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    Originally Posted by Zachattack43 View Post
    but who sells it now?
    it was on sale yesterday on wheycheap.com for 24.99
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    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    it was on sale yesterday on wheycheap.com for 24.99
    which brand? Im pissed I missed that.
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    Originally Posted by Zachattack43 View Post
    which brand? Im pissed I missed that.
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    Ubiquinol is prolly the overall better choice. I will research it again later on today.
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    Ubiquinol is one of the few supplements I use everyday year round (Aloe vera gel/ juice, Acai juice and EGCG are 3 others). Its involved in so many healthy mechanisms that its hard for me to find a good reason to not take it or spend the money.
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    Cool

    Originally Posted by Zachattack43 View Post
    Ubiquinol is prolly the overall better choice. I will research it again later on today.
    agreed 100%


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    Ubiquinol is one of the few supplements I use everyday year round (Aloe vera gel/ juice, Acai juice and EGCG are 3 others). Its involved in so many healthy mechanisms that its hard for me to find a good reason to not take it or spend the money.
    I thought I was the only one who uses ubiquinol and aloe vera juice all year round!!
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    I've been using 1 cap of Primaforce Idebenone every two days for the past year. Just ran out and debating whether to continue or switch to Ubiquinol. Any new studies supporting one over the other?
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    Originally Posted by Valenzuelatech View Post
    I've been using 1 cap of Primaforce Idebenone every two days for the past year. Just ran out and debating whether to continue or switch to Ubiquinol. Any new studies supporting one over the other?
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    I switch from ubiquinone to ubiquinol and never notice any difference. Just make sure you get Kaneka for CoQ10, they are like the Creapure for creatine.
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    Originally Posted by wildthings View Post
    I switch from ubiquinone to ubiquinol and never notice any difference. Just make sure you get Kaneka for CoQ10, they are like the Creapure for creatine.
    Thats what ive been taking ( ubiquinol from kaneka). However idebenone can be found in bulk which obviously is cheaper. Cant find to many comparisons.

    I will most likely stick with ubiquinol.

    also- i doubt you would "feel" any noticeable difference from taking one or the other. Hell, i don't feel a difference taking ubiquinol what so eva

    Im surprised there isnt much discussion of Ubiquinol on these boards, its benefits are nothing short of impressive to say the least.

    edit: my fault-you said ibiquinone, not idebenone
    I would rather use ubiquinol as well (active form), but i agree, i doubt you would feel any difference.

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