did you ever notice this? my cousin just started lifting with me. he is six foot something and 280 lbs and never worked out before. wow, he is strong as an ox. he was throwing up the same weights as my buddy i train with that has been doing it for years. one other thing is he comes in the next day not even very sore. im a smaller framed guy but i remember when i first started i hade to work at it much harder at it.
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03-31-2010, 07:28 AM #1
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Some people are just naturally strong
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Yes, just as some people have a natural genetic predisposition to run a marathon.
The following is straight out of my Physiology text book, not bro-science or brotacular:
The majority of people have a balance of type I red (STMF) and type II white (FTMF) muscle fiber. Those that can seemingly 'smell iron and gain lean muscle mass' tend to be more predominately type II white muscle fiber. Type II is categorized as large, strong, bulky, but with low endurance. Type I is smaller, weaker, but far more enduring.
There are actually three main types along with Type IIa, Type IIb, and Type IIc/Type D muscle fibers as well but, let's keep this simple...
My professor described it with this analogy... think about a chicken, it has Type I red muscle fiber on it's legs, very enduring, with the ability to walk around and pace quickly for an extended period of time around the coop. The breast tissue is Type II white, very large and strong, able to support a ballistic burst to flap it's wings fly away and escape from the wolf but, it can't fly for a long distance, it weakens quickly.
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I've noticed the same thing about some people just being naturally strong. I am putting on size all over my body but still can't bench anywhere near what some of the smaller, lighter guys do at my gym. Funny thing is though, I deadlift a LOT more.....of course that's easy to do when most of them don't deadlift or squat! LOL
Oldsuperman put it the best. He doesn't care if he's the strongest one at the beach, he just wants to look like the strongest! Myself, I'd be happy with a little of both.
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Well, not so much a hybrid but you're most likely predominantly Intermediate muscle fiber type, whereas you're fast twitch but also high-myo oxidizing... I tried to keep it smile in what I typed above but, if you read the highlighted scans above, you can read a bit about Intermediate as well.
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Yeah, you're right form is key. I started out curling 40lb back in October, I can do 90lb clean (without jerking or momentum) 10x and 100lb clean 3x.
But, I had one friend,who is half my size, screwing around with me because he could curl 100lb 10x.. but of course he's jerking, swinging, and exploding with momentum... almost half dead-lifting the weight up to a curl.
Sure, if this was a power-lifting contest and not body building... yeah... but, come on now!Taught by Dr. Squat himself back in the late 90s
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i'm naturally strong for my size, hence the reason i went into powerlifting for awhile. benched 200, squatted 250 deadlifted 350 - during my first power cycle lol. strength doesn't necessarily equate to muscularity however. otherwise, i'd be huge. darn.
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trans4mation -- same here. I have been lifting for approx 3 years now. Only this morning my regular personal trainer is running in a newbie -- skinny small guy -- and he was benching same as me. My personal trainer and I have acknowsledged -- that Chest is my weakest area. What a bummer. But come Squat / Deadlift --- they can eat my dirt. =)
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04-02-2010, 07:19 PM #30
I live in Tn and there are lots of farmers, mechanics, and just junkyard strong guys here like 6'6" 250lbs of nothing but hard working grain fed beef eating guys. They might be 25 or 65 it doesnt matter.
AND whats funny is they never workout...they nave have any real injuries and eat s%^..BUT you wouldnt want to mess with them at all...although you might out run them..lol
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