Orange triad.

[bobby55]

the main reason why im looking at orange triad over opti-men is the joint support. i get uncomfortable feelings in my shoulders and knees sometimes during workout, and knee pain is common throughout the day. its noting major just a little annoyance.

but it is 2x the price of opti-men. so is orange triad worth it?

[Massa007]

answer to your question is: NO!

the joint-complex is fundamentally underdosed. Invest in another product specifically for joints, or - this worked for me - go for ~2g EPA and 2g DHA per day (>10 caps of standard fish oil) for some time and feel the wonders of these fatty acids

[bobby55]

answer to your question is: NO!

the joint-complex is fundamentally underdosed. Invest in another product specifically for joints, or - this worked for me - go for ~2g EPA and 2g DHA per day (>10 caps of standard fish oil) for some time and feel the wonders of these fatty acids

okay, and by EPA and DHA you are referring to omega 3,6,9 fatty acids?

because i dont think it says anything aboout omega fatty acids in orange triad, their joint complex is Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate

[Recawn]

okay, and by EPA and DHA you are referring to omega 3,6,9 fatty acids?

because i dont think it says anything aboout omega fatty acids in orange triad, their joint complex is Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate

I'll have to disagree with massa, the dosage in the joint & flex complex's for orange triad are your standard dosages for joint supps. And no orange triad doesnt contain any fatty acids, EPA and DHA are present in omega 3 and can be found in any generic fish oil supp.

I'd recommend doing something like this with OT:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cl...angetriad.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/fish.html

Or if you wanted opti-men:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/fish.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/men.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sport/jointv.html (very good joint supp)

Controlled labs also does a fish oil product (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cl...e-oximega.html) although a regular fish oil product will get the job done.

[homerunrbi]

Orange Triad has worked for my joint problems.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Orange Triad has worked for my joint problems.

yup, orange triad plus orange oximega fish oil and you are golden for joints. add in the full oximega kit and you have pretty much all your foundational basics covered with just two products at 30 bucks per month

[pu12en12g]

so is orange triad worth it?

For the hard training athlete, absolutely

[dopamine72]

OP try cissus, that is a very good joint supp

[ItsAboutForm]

No offense to the reps, but OT is over hyped simply as a result of Controlled Lab's having like 5 or 6 dif reps on the forums all the time. In my opinion, Orange Triad's joint support is insufficient and from what I've seen, is a placebo effect.

Orange Triad
333mg joint support per pill. You need 6 pills to reach the serving size, which only amounts to 2mg joint support.
Joint Compex™ 2000mg **

Animal Flex (as an example, not what I use) - Same number of servings, but slightly cheaper, and you take a single packet to get 5mg joint support, rather than 6 pills to get 2mg. Additionally, it's joint support has a more diverse complex of ingredients.
Joint Construction Complex 3000mg *
Joint Lubrication Complex 1000mg *
Joint Support Complex 1000mg *


I would say two things from my opinion based largely on research and trying different products.
1) If you want something like joint support, get it as a standalone product in addition to your multivitamin. I always say, why pay $30 for two halves combined when you can pay $40 for two wholes separately. Dont stick me under a shower and tell me its raining. People like to pay for "combined products", when all too often this combining results in products that offer insufficient amounts of the things that they've combined.
2) If you want an unbiased opinion, don't look for it from a company rep.

Again, this is all my opinion. You should wait for responses from a lot of people before you make a decision. Just do me a favor and don't fall prey to the "group-think", whatever you decide.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

OP try cissus, that is a very good joint supp

cissus makes a great addition to a joint support stack.

No offense to the reps, but OT is over hyped simply as a result of Controlled Lab's having like 5 or 6 dif reps on the forums all the time. In my opinion, Orange Triad's joint support is insufficient and from what I've seen, is a placebo effect.

Orange Triad
333mg joint support per pill. You need 6 pills to reach the serving size, which only amounts to 2mg joint support.
Joint Compex™ 2000mg **

it has 2 complexes for joint support, so its 3550mg per dose for joints. most joint support products that are fully dosed are in this realm (more is not always better as I am sure you are aware, the key is to get to the levels where you see benefits and that is where OT is dosed)

the feedback says it works. if you havent tried it, how can you say differently?

[ItsAboutForm]

i have tried it, but i've found standalone products to work better (i don't think that's too hard to believe). and again, no offense, but all too much of this "feedback" comes from threads saturated with posts from people who have "CONTROLLED LABS" in their signatures. i'm not going to doubt that controlled labs makes some quality and innovated products, i've tried some, liked some, didn't like some. you guys definitely have a fan group, but I think it's a direct result of you being walking commercials. im not trying to insult you or to troll, but most reps are in this section answering questions about their products that only they might know as a result of their connection to the company, but a lot of what you guys are doing out here is straight advertising... and well... there IS a 'company promotions' section for that

okay, and by EPA and DHA you are referring to omega 3,6,9 fatty acids?

because i dont think it says anything aboout omega fatty acids in orange triad, their joint complex is Glucosamine Sulfate And Chondroitin Sulfate

no need for 6,9 fatty acids, here is a good reasoning stolen from another fish oil website:

"The typical diet contains a disproportionate amount of omega-6 and although some omega-6 is good, excessive amounts can promote a broad range of degenerative disease including heart conditions, arthritis and immune system dysfunction. Common sources of omega-6 in the diet include cooking oils, baked goods, cereals and red meat. Aside from omega-3 and omega-6, your body can produce all other types of omega fats including omega-9 and omega-7. These fatty acids are also plentiful in a typical diet."

Just supplement Omega-3.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

i have tried it, but i've found standalone products to work better (i don't think that's too hard to believe). and again, no offense, but all too much of this "feedback" comes from threads saturated with posts from people who have "CONTROLLED LABS" in their signatures. i'm not going to doubt that controlled labs makes some quality and innovated products, i've tried some, liked some, didn't like some. you guys definitely have a fan group, but I think it's a direct result of you being walking commercials. im not trying to insult you or to troll, but most reps are in this section answering questions about their products that only they might know as a result of their connection to the company, but a lot of what you guys are doing out here is straight advertising... and well... there IS a 'company promotions' section for that

you are entitled to your opinion, but the feedback is from users not from reps. all store feedback listed here is 100% paying customers:

http://reviews.bodybuilding.com/Cont...s/Orange_Triad

[URBANSK1]

OP try cissus, that is a very good joint supp

absolutely!!! i stand by cissus 100%!! My chronic shoulder pain has been COMPLETELY relieved and i've never been happier.

[Neopragmatist]

No offense to the reps, but OT is over hyped simply as a result of Controlled Lab's having like 5 or 6 dif reps on the forums all the time. In my opinion, Orange Triad's joint support is insufficient and from what I've seen, is a placebo effect.

I´m not sure why you think the joint complex in OT is underdosed--maybe for someone who does half-serving to cut down the cost. But the amount of those common joint complex ingredients are fairly typical and standard. Sure, it doesn´t have this bombardment of every single joint support ingredient known to man found in Animal Flex, but Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM are fairly cut and dry in terms of their role.

I do agree with you on the fact that I rather take my joint support separately. And I know often times when companies formulate products, they like to throw in underdosed ingredients just to make their product seem more complete and versatile rather than being functional. But what makes Orange Triad (and Animal Pak for that matter) stand out from the typical rest is the fact that they are more than just vitamins and minerals. It may not be practical or arousing to you (and for me), but for many of us especially in this bodybuilding community, having that combination with joint support (and digestive, performance, or what have you) is enticing. And then there are products like Essentials that give you everything in one bottle, but I think that´s just taking the idea and going overboard.

And let´s not forget OT is not just about joints--it´s also a multivitamin. I´m very picky with MV formulations but OT is actually one of the better formulated MV out there; chelated minerals, mixed tocopherols & tocotrienols, methylcobalamin...Sure, there´s room for improvements, but I give them props for reformulating the forms and some of the doses to make it better.

fyi, I don´t use any of CL products (though I have in the past) and I do understand your frustrations. I too get annoyed by few of the company reps and their desperate and pathetic attempts to make a sales pitch or have something worthless to say just to get their name out at every chance they get, but that´s the nature of business and most of them are good people and they are more helpful and than harmful. You´re free to say whatever, but don´t hold grudges--it´ll only bring yourself down.

[JLT]

Interesting.. Cissus did nothing for my achey shoulders.. Ot is the only thing I have taken so far that has helped.

[homerunrbi]

yup, orange triad plus orange oximega fish oil and you are golden for joints. add in the full oximega kit and you have pretty much all your foundational basics covered with just two products at 30 bucks per month

best combo on this site. cougheastersalecough coughoximega/greenscombocough

[cervasa1977]

Interesting.. Cissus did nothing for my achey shoulders.. Ot is the only thing I have taken so far that has helped.

I am with you OT has done wonders for my shoulders

[seriouslifter]

answer to your question is: NO!

the joint-complex is fundamentally underdosed. Invest in another product specifically for joints, or - this worked for me - go for ~2g EPA and 2g DHA per day (>10 caps of standard fish oil) for some time and feel the wonders of these fatty acids

YES TRUE! i switched to animal pak and flex!

[whiplash948]

Orange Triad really didn't do much for me in terms of joint support... and gave me a terrible breakout of acne that I'm still trying to recover from

[ItsAboutForm]

I´m not sure why you think the joint complex in OT is underdosed--maybe for someone who does half-serving to cut down the cost. But the amount of those common joint complex ingredients are fairly typical and standard. Sure, it doesn´t have this bombardment of every single joint support ingredient known to man found in Animal Flex, but Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM are fairly cut and dry in terms of their role.

I do agree with you on the fact that I rather take my joint support separately. And I know often times when companies formulate products, they like to throw in underdosed ingredients just to make their product seem more complete and versatile rather than being functional. But what makes Orange Triad (and Animal Pak for that matter) stand out from the typical rest is the fact that they are more than just vitamins and minerals. It may not be practical or arousing to you (and for me), but for many of us especially in this bodybuilding community, having that combination with joint support (and digestive, performance, or what have you) is enticing. And then there are products like Essentials that give you everything in one bottle, but I think that´s just taking the idea and going overboard.

And let´s not forget OT is not just about joints--it´s also a multivitamin. I´m very picky with MV formulations but OT is actually one of the better formulated MV out there; chelated minerals, mixed tocopherols & tocotrienols, methylcobalamin...Sure, there´s room for improvements, but I give them props for reformulating the forms and some of the doses to make it better.

fyi, I don´t use any of CL products (though I have in the past) and I do understand your frustrations. I too get annoyed by few of the company reps and their desperate and pathetic attempts to make a sales pitch or have something worthless to say just to get their name out at every chance they get, but that´s the nature of business and most of them are good people and they are more helpful and than harmful. You´re free to say whatever, but don´t hold grudges--it´ll only bring yourself down.

thanks you bring up good points, and don't worry I have no reason to hold a grudge.

I am with you OT has done wonders for my shoulders

[JLT]

thanks you bring up good points, and don't worry I have no reason to hold a grudge.

What's your point.. I'm not a CL rep, is my statement null as well? I don't see why you are crying about the reps on here, the supp section is pretty much ran by company reps, not limited to CL.

[pu12en12g]

Wow strong hate.... I guess it's another example of how you can't please everyone

[NY Muscle]

Good stuff, been on it for over a month, joints feel greet and I do not need to take a separate multi vit and joint complex. I was taking Animal Flex previously for joints.

[Hellcraft]

If you want a multi-vitamin, why don't you judge it based on it's vitamin profile?

[rgc1279]

OT is great, easy to swallow too (which was a big deal for me).

[CoryGunz]

OT is great, easy to swallow too (which was a big deal for me).

Thats what she said?

[Dracoy]

Good stuff, been on it for over a month, joints feel greet and I do not need to take a separate multi vit and joint complex. I was taking Animal Flex previously for joints.

Thanks for the support!

[mchoodie]

I take OT along with fish oil and it does the trick for me. Cissus is also a great product though.

[JLT]

You think 1k rep points is a lot either? lol. I don't think either of our points really matter. You're mad because someone disagrees with you over the internet, which is pretty sad. As I told you, I don't need to post a picture of myself to prove I know what I'm talking about to a stranger over the internet. Stop trying to get a picture of me, it's getting a little creepy now...

Really they don't.. But your the one that took the initiative to neg me, followed up by a message 12 hours later saying you will continue to neg me. Your obviously upset, otherwise you wouldn't continue to respond. I just find it hard to take anyone who posts here seriously about bodybuilding advice when they can't even put a picture of themselves up. Usually the people who don't have pictures are self proclaimed know it all's, that don't look like the stepped foot in the gym.

Anyways I'm done crapping in this thread, you're now on ignore.

Edit: This is the only post I'm going to leave in here.. Deleted the rest of mine, decided this wasn't the place to crap up a thread.

OT is solid /thread

[ItsAboutForm]

Really they don't.. But your the one that took the initiative to neg me, followed up by a message 12 hours later saying you will continue to neg me. Your obviously upset, otherwise you wouldn't continue to respond. I just find it hard to take anyone who posts here seriously about bodybuilding advice when they can't even put a picture of themselves up. Usually the people who don't have pictures are self proclaimed know it all's, that don't look like the stepped foot in the gym.

Anyways I'm done crapping in this thread, your now on ignore.

LOL convenient how you leave out the part where after I negged you, you not only cried about it on the forums, but hypocritically (yet again) negged me back and cried about it through the neg. I sent you a message explaining why you got negged. The purpose of a neg is to constructively criticize. Learn and profit. And please, stop trying to get a pic of me, I'm straight...

Controlled Labs has no avatar. Does that mean he has no idea what he's talking about? No, I think we can agree he knows what he's talking about. Does it mean he isn't in shape? No, that would be a baseless assumption. In reality, there is no correlation between physical form and knowledge in the area of bodybuilding. Do you realize how many trainers/nutritionists/clinical dieticians/supplement manufacturers don't bother to take care of themselves despite their pletheora of knowledge on the topic? Walk into any gym and it's likely you'll find 1 or 2 trainers who aren't in shape themselves, despite being very good at their job.