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    a properly done cycle of test is safer and easier on the body than the majority of oral PH's that are legal to buy.

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    Originally Posted by harisharma50 View Post
    Short-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are illegal because many of their effects are adverse--and they take hold quickly. They can cause tumors on the liver, jaundice and high blood pressure. They cause testicles to shrink, can cause infertility, and can cause men to develop breasts and lose their hair. In women, they can disrupt the menstrual cycle, cause the facial hair to grow and the voice to deepen. In adolescence, they can do all of these things as well as stunt growth.
    Short-Term Psychological Effects
    Steroid users are also susceptible to "roid rage." Symptoms include feelings of paranoia and jealousy, extreme aggression and irritability. Steroid users also have a dangerous feeling of invincibility, which can lead them to make poor decisions.
    Long-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are also illegal because in the long term, they take a serious toll on the heart. They raise "bad" cholesterol and lower "good" cholesterol. This causes a buildup of plaque in the arteries that restricts blood flow to the heart. If blood cannot reach the heart, the user may suffer a heart attack. If blood cannot reach the brain, the user can suffer a stroke.


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    This is all true but at the same time there are is a lot of "can" and "if"' in this statement. Anything that is not natural "can" produce an ill effect and that goes with everything from aspirin to narcotics.

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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    a properly done cycle of test is safer and easier on the body than the majority of oral PH's that are legal to buy.

    logic fail.
    Can you please aware me on 'test'.
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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Can you please aware me on 'test'.
    testosterone. you inject it for gainz
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    Originally Posted by harisharma50 View Post
    Short-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are illegal because many of their effects are adverse--and they take hold quickly. They can cause tumors on the liver, jaundice and high blood pressure. They cause testicles to shrink, can cause infertility, and can cause men to develop breasts and lose their hair. In women, they can disrupt the menstrual cycle, cause the facial hair to grow and the voice to deepen. In adolescence, they can do all of these things as well as stunt growth.
    Short-Term Psychological Effects
    Steroid users are also susceptible to "roid rage." Symptoms include feelings of paranoia and jealousy, extreme aggression and irritability. Steroid users also have a dangerous feeling of invincibility, which can lead them to make poor decisions.
    Long-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are also illegal because in the long term, they take a serious toll on the heart. They raise "bad" cholesterol and lower "good" cholesterol. This causes a buildup of plaque in the arteries that restricts blood flow to the heart. If blood cannot reach the heart, the user may suffer a heart attack. If blood cannot reach the brain, the user can suffer a stroke.


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    Overdose symptoms may include stomach pain, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, loss of appetite, hair loss, peeling skin, tingly feeling in or around your mouth, changes in menstrual periods, weight loss, severe headache, muscle or joint pain, severe back pain, blood in your urine, pale skin, and easy bruising or bleeding.

    I should mention those are the possible side effects from misusing multivitamins.
    here is the link drugs.com/mtm/multivitamin.html (post count too low to post actual link, sorry)

    In the grand scheme of things steroids, used safely and responsibly by healthy adult males only (21+ at least) are in no way worse than many legal drugs. The point being that there is no reason for them to be classified as a CIII controlled substance.

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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    and while we're on the subject can somebody tell me the most efficient/powerful steroid or one with the worst side effects as well as milder types cuz im curious. not gonna use though.

    the worst ones are the orals: black market pills/ prohormones/ designer steriods...
    Yep

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    they aren't legal here. . .

    or at least I was sure they weren't untill now

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    Originally Posted by uberMunk View Post
    Overdose symptoms may include stomach pain, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, loss of appetite, hair loss, peeling skin, tingly feeling in or around your mouth, changes in menstrual periods, weight loss, severe headache, muscle or joint pain, severe back pain, blood in your urine, pale skin, and easy bruising or bleeding.

    I should mention those are the possible side effects from misusing multivitamins.
    here is the link drugs.com/mtm/multivitamin.html (post count too low to post actual link, sorry)

    In the grand scheme of things steroids, used safely and responsibly by healthy adult males only (21+ at least) are in no way worse than many legal drugs. The point being that there is no reason for them to be classified as a CIII controlled substance.
    Originally Posted by HumpStrap View Post
    the worst ones are the orals: black market pills/ prohormones/ designer steriods...
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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Can you please aware me on 'test'.
    Testostrone Enanthate aka test e

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    Originally Posted by 1sickZ06 View Post
    Testostrone Enanthate aka test e
    theres different "types" brah

    test e
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    test prop
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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    a properly done cycle of test is safer and easier on the body than the majority of oral PH's that are legal to buy.

    logic fail.
    This is extremely true. Black magic, warrior, Tren when it was legal, all methylated orals that put major strain on the liver. The oil injectable testosterone doesn't pass through the liver at all.

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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Can you please aware me on 'test'.
    testosterone. the sh*t your body is suppose to produce naturally. its extremely deadly and will kill anything is touches












































    wait what

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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    testosterone. you inject it for gainz
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    Testostrone Enanthate aka test e
    Thanks brahs.

    I always wonder who started the smear campaign against steroid use for bb'ing and why it was done. Surely there is a tonne of money to be made from it for pharmaceutical companies if they were able to sell it for 'recreational use'. If only pfizer threw a few million dollars to a goverment body here and there, Im sure it would be legalised in no time.
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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    theres different "types" brah

    test e
    test cyp
    test prop
    true, I find that test e seems to be the most popular overall.

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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Thanks brahs.

    I always wonder who started the smear campaign against steroid use for bb'ing and why it was done. Surely there is a tonne of money to be made from it for pharmaceutical companies if they were able to sell it for 'recreational use'. If only pfizer threw a few million dollars to a goverment body here and there, Im sure it would be legalised in no time.
    the main push was its use in sports and then the media/gov had to scare the general public like they tried to do with marijuana in the 60's(maybe it was the 70's) with comical videos such as "reefer madness". Gotta keep the ants in line somehow....

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    Originally Posted by HumpStrap View Post
    the worst ones are the orals: black market pills/ prohormones/ designer steriods...
    i meant like dianabol, deca durabolin, trenbolone, etc.

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    Originally Posted by 1sickZ06 View Post
    true, I find that test e seems to be the most popular overall.
    different esters (types) are best suited for different cycles. longer 10-12+ week cycles are test e, while shorter "blast" cycles of 6-8 weeks are generally test prop. dont quote me on that but im pretty sure..
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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    i meant like dianabol, deca durabolin, trenbolone, etc.
    anything oral = through the liver = potential for liver damage
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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Thanks brahs.

    I always wonder who started the smear campaign against steroid use for bb'ing and why it was done. Surely there is a tonne of money to be made from it for pharmaceutical companies if they were able to sell it for 'recreational use'. If only pfizer threw a few million dollars to a goverment body here and there, Im sure it would be legalised in no time.
    I've actually heard that Test is not very profitable for pharmacies to make. Not sure exactly why, haven't done the research. Even though Aids patients seem to respond very well to test/steroid treatment, I don't believe it's widely used/prescribed because of the fact that it's not profitable for the pharmacy companies.

    Although if it was legalized i'm sure they could tax the hell out of it and jack the price up and still make a killing.

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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    i meant like dianabol, deca durabolin, trenbolone, etc.
    the answer in in your question



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    this is not the place for quality info
    Yep

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    anything oral = through the liver = potential for liver damage
    and heart damage
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    Originally Posted by Ted Nugent View Post
    different esters (types) are best suited for different cycles. longer 10-12+ week cycles are test e, while shorter "blast" cycles of 6-8 weeks are generally test prop. dont quote me on that but im pretty sure..
    Thats right. Also I think test props are usually stacked with low doseages of deca or dbol while test e is usually cycled by itself. But I'm not sure if theres even any logic to that statement because it all comes back to what the individual is doing and if they are abusing or not.

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