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    Why are steroids illegal? (serious)

    Seriously, instead of wasting thousands of dollars on inferior supplements, we should be able to legally purchase steroids and see better results in a shorter time span. I realise there are side affects, but nothing worse than binge drinking or smoking, yet cigarettes and alcohol are still legal.

    Im guessing its because there isnt a 'steroids lobby' donating millions of dollars every year to government parties in return for certain favours.
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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Seriously, instead of wasting thousands of dollars on inferior supplements, we should be able to legally purchase steroids and see better results in a shorter time span. I realise there are side affects, but nothing worse than binge drinking or smoking, yet cigarettes and alcohol are still legal.

    Im guessing its because there isnt a 'steroids lobby' donating millions of dollars every year to government parties in return for certain favours.
    they are legal in mexico just sayin

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    I agree. I think there should be a clinic in which you can go too and have them administered and dosed correctly. By doing this it would prevent much of the abuse and stigma associated with them. In my opinion roids are no different than plastic surgery or getting a botox injection as most people are doing them to improve their looks and not to gain an advantage at sports/competition. Also it should be regulated for a certain age and you must meet certain physical requirements to recieve them.

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    u shud be glad 50% of the gym community aren't using them liek they would be if they were legal
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    Originally Posted by 1sickZ06 View Post
    I agree. I think there should be a clinic in which you can go too and have them administered and dosed correctly. By doing this it would prevent much of the abuse and stigma associated with them. In my opinion roids are no different than plastic surgery or getting a botox injection as most people are doing them to improve their looks and not to gain an advantage at sports/competition. Also it should be regulated for a certain age and you must meet certain physical requirements to recieve them.
    Exactly. There is a heroin shooting clinic in Sydney to ensure that the junkies dispose of the needles the correct way and ensure some level hygiene as well. If the government can advocate an act such as shooting heroin, I cant see why they wont have something similar for steroids.

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    u shud be glad 50% of the gym community aren't using them liek they would be if they were legal
    Why is that?

    NB - no one in my gym does steroids. Its the p*ssiest gym in all of London. We dont have a bench press or a squat rack. Just three adjustable benches, smith machine and cables and maximum weight on the db's is 22 kgs.
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    because idiots who dont know how to use them ruin it for the ones who know wtf they're doing and are responsible

    and while we're on the subject can somebody tell me the most efficient/powerful steroid or one with the worst side effects as well as milder types cuz im curious. not gonna use though.

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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Exactly. There is a heroin shooting clinic in Sydney to ensure that the junkies dispose of the needles the correct way and ensure some level hygiene as well. If the government can advocate an act such as shooting heroin, I cant see why they wont have something similar for steroids.



    Why is that?

    NB - no one in my gym does steroids. Its the p*ssiest gym in all of London. We dont have a bench press or a squat rack. Just three adjustable benches, smith machine and cables and maximum weight on the db's is 22 kgs.
    what the **** are you doing there then?

    and they are legal in the UK

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    Originally Posted by andrew28 View Post
    because idiots who dont know how to use them ruin it for the ones who know wtf they're doing and are responsible

    and while we're on the subject can somebody tell me the most efficient/powerful steroid or one with the worst side effects as well as milder types cuz im curious. not gonna use though.
    Don't think you'll get a good response here, plenty of other places for good info. Also side effects greatly vary from person to person.

    Watch the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster for a lot of good information (shows both pros and cons)

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    Originally Posted by gladiator123456 View Post
    they are legal in mexico just sayin
    they are legal for sale their but there use is against the law....................LULZ!!!!

    if you are an athlete where steroids are sanctioned against, you may be prosecuted if you test positive for.

    the reason its legal .............. many foreigners travel to mexico specifically for "juice".

    there was a thread where san diego miscer's would take a trip to tijuana ever week or two solely to get their "fix".

    since its legal to buy in mexico, and legal to use if not competing in sports(also they are foreigners). they are outside the jurisdiction for prosecution from their native country and mexico.

    i've been to tijuana many times and i've never seen anybody buy juice at the pharmacies.

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    what the **** are you doing there then?

    and they are legal in the UK
    over the counter legal and legal for private use are 2 differnt things

    you can guarentee in the UK there will be big interest in steroids if they were allowed over the counter, the same way all the gym noobs buy up all the exotic supplements they can find
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    Originally Posted by inb4 View Post
    what the **** are you doing there then?

    and they are legal in the UK
    are they?? O.o
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    Seriously, instead of wasting thousands of dollars on inferior supplements, we should be able to legally purchase steroids and see better results in a shorter time span. I realise there are side affects, but nothing worse than binge drinking or smoking, yet cigarettes and alcohol are still legal.

    Im guessing its because there isnt a 'steroids lobby' donating millions of dollars every year to government parties in return for certain favours.
    It's because a lot of the major people who can change this sort of thing drink and smoke, and they don't lift any kind of weights at all. Therefore, how can we out-do them and look better than them?

    They will not have ANY of that, unless.....



    Arnold for president!!!

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    They are legal in most western country's I think. We even have a steroid clinic here in holland.

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    Originally Posted by morris_kg View Post
    It's because a lot of the major people who can change this sort of thing drink and smoke, and they don't lift any kind of weights at all. Therefore, how can we out-do them and look better than them?

    They will not have ANY of that, unless.....



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    Arnold can't be president fyi.....not born native to america...

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    Arnold can't be president fyi.....not born native to america...
    Is that actually a rule?

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    Originally Posted by inb4 View Post
    what the **** are you doing there then?

    and they are legal in the UK
    My mate is the operations manager and I pay next to nothing. It has served me well so far (gotten back in to lifting 4 months ago) but I will be moving to a better gym in the next 2 months.

    Legal as in I can buy it at a pharmacy for bb use?

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    They are legal in most western country's I think. We even have a steroid clinic here in holland.
    Can it be purchased for bb purposes though?
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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    My mate is the operations manager and I pay next to nothing. It has served me well so far (gotten back in to lifting 4 months ago) but I will be moving to a better gym in the next 2 months.

    Legal as in I can buy it at a pharmacy for bb use?



    Can it be purchased for bb purposes though?
    I'm from UK and I wanna know this. lul
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    Originally Posted by JOOOST View Post
    Is that actually a rule?
    •Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.

    •One must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.

    •Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.

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    Originally Posted by FM1 View Post
    Can it be purchased for bb purposes though?
    you can't just buy them in the store. But if you can find them it's completely legal to do so. I believe you can just order them online.

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    a lot of false info about how bad they are and dumb govt

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    William N Taylor is a large reason why steroids are illegal. I've been reading through some of his books on steroids. In one book he lists "increased appetite, increased time spent going to the gym, flexing in the mirror" as signs of steroid use. I put the book down for a few weeks after I read that when I realized this is the dumba** that pushed for steroids to be a controlled substance.

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    Seriously, instead of wasting thousands of dollars on inferior supplements, we should be able to legally purchase steroids and see better results in a shorter time span. I realise there are side affects, but nothing worse than binge drinking or smoking, yet cigarettes and alcohol are still legal.

    Im guessing its because there isnt a 'steroids lobby' donating millions of dollars every year to government parties in return for certain favours.
    Short-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are illegal because many of their effects are adverse--and they take hold quickly. They can cause tumors on the liver, jaundice and high blood pressure. They cause testicles to shrink, can cause infertility, and can cause men to develop breasts and lose their hair. In women, they can disrupt the menstrual cycle, cause the facial hair to grow and the voice to deepen. In adolescence, they can do all of these things as well as stunt growth.
    Short-Term Psychological Effects
    Steroid users are also susceptible to "roid rage." Symptoms include feelings of paranoia and jealousy, extreme aggression and irritability. Steroid users also have a dangerous feeling of invincibility, which can lead them to make poor decisions.
    Long-Term Physical Effects
    Steroids are also illegal because in the long term, they take a serious toll on the heart. They raise "bad" cholesterol and lower "good" cholesterol. This causes a buildup of plaque in the arteries that restricts blood flow to the heart. If blood cannot reach the heart, the user may suffer a heart attack. If blood cannot reach the brain, the user can suffer a stroke.


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    ive always wondered about their illegality.

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    Originally Posted by 1sickZ06 View Post
    •Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.

    •One must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.

    •Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.
    I understand the rule of having to have been a resident for 14 years but don't really understand the other 2. I mean point of a democracy is that the people choose who becomes president right. So if the majority of people think somebody born abroad or under 35 is most fit to become president then he should be able to.

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