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    Question Gaspari Nutrition size on

    In the past few months of researching for creatine i have heard that gaspari size on is one of the top creatines on the market. Then the Size On Maximum Performance came out and i decided to get that instead of the original Size on. I did not see much results from the Size on Maximum Performance so should i try original size on or move on to try another creatine such as Green Mag, cell mass, and cell tech?
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    Bro, your 16. So im not going to recommend creatine to you. But sizeon is a great one so maybe it was your training or food intake that led to you not feel anything
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    Originally Posted by jordansrt View Post
    Bro, your 16. So im not going to recommend creatine to you. But sizeon is a great one so maybe it was your training or food intake that led to you not feel anything
    LOL, whats wrong with a 16 using creatine?

    OP just stick to creatine mono for now.
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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    LOL, whats wrong with a 16 using creatine?

    OP just stick to creatine mono for now.
    I think it is an automatic response from supplement reps.
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    Originally Posted by papi93 View Post
    I think it is an automatic response from supplement reps.
    lol, prob right, cause my high school football coach and strength coach recommended creatine to us while playing football. Nothing that I have ever read show it to negatively impact someone at that age.
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    Taking creatine for a few months isn't gonna make you huge. Make sure your diet is in check and keep lifting hard!!
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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    LOL, whats wrong with a 16 using creatine?

    OP just stick to creatine mono for now.
    Nothing is wrong with taking creatine, but most supplement labels says 18 or over do they not?
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    Originally Posted by jordansrt View Post
    Nothing is wrong with taking creatine, but most supplement labels says 18 or over do they not?
    Touche...but I am not a rep therefor I fully recommend he use creatine.
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    Originally Posted by Achilles_1986 View Post
    Touche...but I am not a rep therefor I fully recommend he use creatine.
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    Originally Posted by jordansrt View Post
    lol and for that i rep you
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    Originally Posted by blakeatorres View Post
    In the past few months of researching for creatine i have heard that gaspari size on is one of the top creatines on the market. Then the Size On Maximum Performance came out and i decided to get that instead of the original Size on. I did not see much results from the Size on Maximum Performance so should i try original size on or move on to try another creatine such as Green Mag, cell mass, and cell tech?
    1 - you're 16, so the product is not recommended for you
    2 - if your stats are correct, you are very thin. I'm guessing this is more a function of inadequate caloric intake and poor diet than any supplement.
    3 - training program could be spotty too, as without proper calories or exercise stress, your body has no need to change.
    4 - don't change your supplement - change your diet and training.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    2 - if your stats are correct, you are very thin. I'm guessing this is more a function of inadequate caloric intake and poor diet than any supplement.


    So you assume his macros are low, and his diet is lacking in essential vitamins and minerals based on a teenager's height and weight? How were you able to deduce this based on his stats? Just curious, cause I would "assume" his metabolic rate is through the roof, and we don't know his history, so health could play a role.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    1 - you're 16, so the product is not recommended for you
    2 - if your stats are correct, you are very thin. I'm guessing this is more a function of inadequate caloric intake and poor diet than any supplement.
    3 - training program could be spotty too, as without proper calories or exercise stress, your body has no need to change.
    4 - don't change your supplement - change your diet and training.
    all true. it's not magic. if you aren't eating enough at your weight, you aren't going to see a thing. you're young and underweight you need to worry more about eating to gain. unrelated but I'm starting mine next week and and excited as hell about it. hoping for big gains from it
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    1 - you're 16, so the product is not recommended for you
    2 - if your stats are correct, you are very thin. I'm guessing this is more a function of inadequate caloric intake and poor diet than any supplement.
    3 - training program could be spotty too, as without proper calories or exercise stress, your body has no need to change.
    4 - don't change your supplement - change your diet and training.
    I think thats its stupid that reps have to post this about age.

    OP post your training and diet and daily routine.
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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post


    So you assume his macros are low, and his diet is lacking in essential vitamins and minerals based on a teenager's height and weight? How were you able to deduce this based on his stats? Just curious, cause I would "assume" his metabolic rate is through the roof, and we don't know his history, so health could play a role.
    No matter what your metabolic rate is, slow or fast, its some quantitative number. If you're not gaining weight, you're not exceeding that number?
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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post


    So you assume his macros are low, and his diet is lacking in essential vitamins and minerals based on a teenager's height and weight? How were you able to deduce this based on his stats? Just curious, cause I would "assume" his metabolic rate is through the roof, and we don't know his history, so health could play a role.
    5'9" and a buck thirty is very lean. I would assume he was looking for weight gain, not fat loss from SizeOn. Since he didn't gain weight, it's a simple deduction that he wasn't eating enough.

    Calories consumed vs calories expended by metabolic processes. It's a simple equation.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post

    Calories consumed vs calories expended by metabolic processes. It's a simple equation.
    Not necessarily, because some high school athletes can expend up to 2,000 kcals daily. You didn't ask him his activity level. You simply assumed; especially since he doesn't qualify as a potential Gaspari consumer due to age.
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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post
    Not necessarily, because some high school athletes can expend up to 2,000 kcals daily. You didn't ask him his activity level. You simply assumed; especially since he doesn't qualify as a potential Gaspari consumer due to age.
    Activity level is part of the bodys metabolic process. It really doesn't matter what his activity level is. He clearly is eating at or below maintenance level if he can't gain weight.

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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Activity level is part of the bodys metabolic process. It really doesn't matter what his activity level is. He clearly is eating at or below maintenance level if he can't gain weight.

    Are you really not understanding this or just trying to pick a fight?
    Activity level is not part of the body's metabolic process. I certainly hope you're not a paid Gaspari employee, and merely an online rep. That's nutrition 101, bro. Physical activity expenditure is separate, because everyone's levels vary. Most individual's usually make up 10ish%, but it can certainly differ.
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    Originally Posted by blakeatorres View Post
    In the past few months of researching for creatine i have heard that gaspari size on is one of the top creatines on the market. Then the Size On Maximum Performance came out and i decided to get that instead of the original Size on. I did not see much results from the Size on Maximum Performance so should i try original size on or move on to try another creatine such as Green Mag, cell mass, and cell tech?
    Dude sizeon blows and well depending on what flavour you get, the grape tastes like ass lol.

    Try out Purple-K, its in a capsule so its a lot easier to take, and u just take it before and after ur workout, easy enough eh?

    Ive done two bottles of it, they are decent price for a good amount of capsules, i believe its 40$ for 130 capsules ?

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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post
    Activity level is not part of the body's metabolic process. I certainly hope you're not a paid Gaspari employee, and merely an online rep. That's nutrition 101, bro. Physical activity expenditure is separate, because everyone's levels vary. Most individual's usually make up 10ish%, but it can certainly differ.
    Regardless what his physical activity level is, he obviously is not eating enough. Bottom line. Whether or not outside physical activity is metabolic process or not, it needs to be accounted for in the caloric surplus. If he burns 2,000.. and another 1,000 in intense activity. Than he should be eating minimum 3500+. I believe in the phrase "there's no such thing as a hard gainer, just someone who doesn't eat enough".
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    Originally Posted by dpressma View Post
    Regardless what his physical activity level is, he obviously is not eating enough. Bottom line. Whether or not outside physical activity is metabolic process or not, it needs to be accounted for in the caloric surplus. If he burns 2,000.. and another 1,000 in intense activity. Than he should be eating minimum 3500+. I believe in the phrase "there's no such thing as a hard gainer, just someone who doesn't eat enough".
    The point I was making before you white knighted, was the fact that Physical Activity Energy Expenditure is part of Total Energy Expenditure, and NOT Resting Metabolic Rate.

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    ANYWAY, I just didn't think it was very professional for Iceman to dismiss this kid because he states that Size-On didn't "work." Give the guy better nutritional direction, and offer help. Don't just belittle him by saying his macros are low and his diet is poor. Help him, elaborate and give him ideas on how to better his diet. Just don't insult him and send him on his way because he's not 18 and Size-On didn't work. He's a paying customer regardless of age. Attitudes like these are exactly the reason this site is going downhill.
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    The point I was making before you white knighted, was the fact that Physical Activity Energy Expenditure is part of Total Energy Expenditure, and NOT Resting Metabolic Rate.

    Thanks though.
    OK. Well ITT before you gave yourself a pat on your back about knowing exercise is part of total energy but isn't accounted in resting metabolic rate (bravo genius) they were discussing why he wasn't seeing results. Who cares if it's separate? I think you missed the whole point of the thread. Sizeon may have not worked because he is just plain not eating enough to account for his TOTAL ENERGY EXPENDITURE. Creatine won't do jack unless diet is at least decent, and seeing as how he is a little light at his height, it stands to reason there isn't enough of a caloric surplus.

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    OK. Well ITT before you gave yourself a pat on your back about knowing exercise is part of total energy but isn't accounted in resting metabolic rate (bravo genius) they were discussing why he wasn't seeing results. Who cares if it's separate? I think you missed the whole point of the thread. Sizeon may have not worked because he is just plain not eating enough to account for his TOTAL ENERGY EXPENDITURE. Creatine won't do jack unless diet is at least decent, and seeing as how he is a little light at his height, it stands to reason there isn't enough of a caloric surplus.

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    More insults, exactly what I was referring to. Thanks for contributing to the downfall of this site.
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    More insults, exactly what I was referring to. Thanks for contributing to the downfall of this site.
    If you feel so strongly about this than send me a PM and we can disucss it there rather than ruining what could have been a helpful thread. I don't see how that's what you were referring to though seeing as how you insulted my first post when there was nothing wrong with it whatsoever. Just saying.

    TO OP... Are you focusing on compound lifts or are you doing mostly isolation movements? Compounds are going to build you a strong base to work off of, and are the exact types of power movement lifts that a product like Sizeon, Mag, or Synthesize could help you on.
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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post
    The point I was making before you white knighted, was the fact that Physical Activity Energy Expenditure is part of Total Energy Expenditure, and NOT Resting Metabolic Rate.

    Thanks though.
    I never said resting metabolic rate. I said metabolic processes. There is a difference. How do you think your body generates the energy for activity? Metabolic processes.

    Sheesh...nit picking to an extreme degree, FTL.

    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post
    ANYWAY, I just didn't think it was very professional for Iceman to dismiss this kid because he states that Size-On didn't "work." Give the guy better nutritional direction, and offer help. Don't just belittle him by saying his macros are low and his diet is poor. Help him, elaborate and give him ideas on how to better his diet. Just don't insult him and send him on his way because he's not 18 and Size-On didn't work. He's a paying customer regardless of age. Attitudes like these are exactly the reason this site is going downhill.
    I've been a member and a rep for quite a while now. I've learned that it's generally best to give people a general idea type answer and if they are interested, they ask further questions. I have a lot of ground to cover and not a lot of time, so I try to be as efficient as possible and as "to the point" as possible. It allows me to help more people that way.

    But I do appreciate your criticism and will take a more sober look at my posts to ensure they are treating all members with respect and attention.

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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    I never said resting metabolic rate. I said metabolic processes. There is a difference. How do you think your body generates the energy for activity? Metabolic processes.

    Sheesh...nit picking to an extreme degree, FTL.



    I've been a member and a rep for quite a while now. I've learned that it's generally best to give people a general idea type answer and if they are interested, they ask further questions. I have a lot of ground to cover and not a lot of time, so I try to be as efficient as possible and as "to the point" as possible. It allows me to help more people that way.

    But I do appreciate your criticism and will take a more sober look at my posts to ensure they are treating all members with respect and attention.

    Either preach the good news, or help OP out. I could care less what you think or know when your customer service is severely lacking.
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    Originally Posted by steve_81 View Post
    Either preach the good news, or help OP out. I could care less what you think or know when your customer service is severely lacking.
    Again, thanks for your (unsolicited) opinions, but generally my customer service is pretty good. get compliments on it all the time. Really the only ones who have issues are those who have an issue with our company in general. Your recent post history is pretty telling in this regard.



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