It's very IMPORTANT to stay healthy now .

[Tatfree]

With the Government Take over of health care, it's a very good reason to drop those extra pounds and keep that heart in tuned.

Get ready for our health care to be ran like the Post office and DMV

By the way congress voted that they do not have to have the same health care as us... GEEEZ I WONDER WHY....

Now I must go run on that treadmill

[rob440]

Moved to the misc section in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1......

[K26]

In before the move

[mharrislove]

What? Sorry, this is the section where bodybuilding and fitness is discussed. No, problem...

The misc section is just two doors down the hall...then take the first turn to the right...

[x-trainer ben]

With the Government Take over of health care, it's a very good reason to drop those extra pounds and keep that heart in tuned.

Get ready for our health care to be ran like the Post office and DMV

By the way congress voted that they do not have to have the same health care as us... GEEEZ I WONDER WHY....

Now I must go run on that treadmill

Cough, Ahem, and why the hell were you not doing this before the bill was passed? Prevention is a hell of a lot cheaper than repair!

[erikjh]

glad they passed it but thats just me.

[tmonkey]

i agree ....
it will be a mess and wrong forum

[DeathtoToasters]

in before move!!

[Karl_Hungus]

glad they passed it but thats just me.

Yeah, me too....I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when more people get covered with fewer doctors available to cover them. I am also thrilled with the idea that every medical procedure now has to be cleared with some government constructed regression equation rather than by my doctor! I'll also be sitting back and eating popcorn while watching this ever expanding financial black hole suck away dollar after dollar into the ether, with nary a clue as to where it went, how it was spent, and what it was for. The government has done so well financially managing other entitlement programs like social security and medicare, that this new government health care plan is bound to be a success!

[timross13]

^^^^^This! I am encouraging my smoking friends here at work to take more smoking breaks so they can pay for my healthcare. What's next, the Big Mac tax?

[Byakuya]

the OP could've approached this differently, but he does raise a good point.. just makes me glad I don't have the same habits as most Americans.. I need to convince my wife to start exercising..

[ghvy1122]

My biggest concern are for those with pre-dispositions already. No matter how well I take care of myself (type 1 diabetic), what happens when I'm in my 60s, 70s, 80's (if I make it that long) and I need a procedure or some form of special treatment. Now it has to be approved by a bearucrat (sp?), or some government equation?

Not seeking sympathy, but just trying address those of us who DO take care of ourselves who already have genetic predispositions.

It doesn't all fall under the umbrella of simply taking better care of yourself.

[Karl_Hungus]

My biggest concern are for those with pre-dispositions already. No matter how well I take care of myself (type 1 diabetic), what happens when I'm in my 60s, 70s, 80's (if I make it that long) and I need a procedure or some form of special treatment. Now it has to be approved by a bearucrat (sp?), or some government equation?

Yep. Basically a cost/benefit calculation will be employed -- how many quality years you are likely to live (based on some regression equation with your variables input) will be weighed against the cost of the procedure. If you don't come up favorably, then no procedure for you.

[IronCharles]

In before Logan's Run becomes reality!

[Old-Time-Lifter]

Yep. Basically a cost/benefit calculation will be employed -- how many quality years you are likely to live (based on some regression equation with your variables input) will be weighed against the cost of the procedure. If you don't come up favorably, then no procedure for you.

What I want to know is how long before your contribution to society becomes a part of the equation? Obviously, (sarcasm) two more years for a politician is more valuable than 2 years for a bricklayer............. just say'in.

[ghvy1122]

LOL.. Iron. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Great movie by the way!

[ghvy1122]

What I want to know is how long before your contribution to society becomes a part of the equation? Obviously, (sarcasm) two more years for a politician is more valuable than 2 years for a bricklayer............. just say'in.

I get what yer sayin.. but to make note, politicians don't fall under the new health care plan. Nor do they pay taxes. Taxes in the amount of roughly $500 Billion to support the new plan.

[K26]

I get what yer sayin.. but to make note, politicians don't fall under the new health care plan. Nor do they pay taxes. Taxes in the amount of roughly $500 Billion to support the new plan.

If you thought healthcare was expensive before, wait until you get the bill for your "free" healthcare!

[jugglingfreak]

If you thought healthcare was expensive before, wait until you get the bill for your "free" healthcare!

[Tyrbolift]

My biggest concern are for those with pre-dispositions already. No matter how well I take care of myself (type 1 diabetic), what happens when I'm in my 60s, 70s, 80's (if I make it that long) and I need a procedure or some form of special treatment. Now it has to be approved by a bearucrat (sp?), or some government equation?

Not seeking sympathy, but just trying address those of us who DO take care of ourselves who already have genetic predispositions.

It doesn't all fall under the umbrella of simply taking better care of yourself.

When did a law to prevent discontinuing insurance due to pre-existing conditions turn into "the government bureaucrats must approve treatment of pre-existing conditions?"

[Marius_Ursus]

In before Logan's Run becomes reality!

The story of Logan's Run started with the Eugenics practice of encouraging voluntary abortions.

Just sayin'.

[Tatfree]

I believe this topic needs to be in this section. There are many reasons we all go to the Gym and eat right. Some do it for the opposite sex, Some do it to feel better about themselves, and some do it for their health. I posted this because it's a very important reason to take care of yourself. You DO NOT,I repeat DO NOT want to have to go to the hospital for anything when this bill comes into effect. If you don't believe me go ask someone from Canada or England how there universal healthcare has worked out for them.

How would you feel instead of making your appointment a month or two in advance you have to make it a year in advance ? Or go to the Emergency room and instead of 2-3 hour wait it's 12 hours.

Listen to me know and believe me later ( Old Saturday night live skit )

[chodan9]

I believe this topic needs to be in this section. There are many reasons we all go to the Gym and eat right.

I can see your reasoning but you know this will degenerate into a political discussion, which is outside the scope of the main forum. you had to know it would happen

[IronCharles]

What a bunch of helpless little whiners we have become as a society. 200 years ago, you'd be lucky if they had a little whiskey for you to drink before 5 guys held you down to cut off your gangrene infested leg with a rusty saw. Today, millions are crying like spoiled little toddlers because they might have to wait a little longer for treatment or pay some higher insurance premiums. Some family out in the plains of the old west watching their sole provider slowly dying from (then) untreatable internal injuries would have loved to have even a fraction of the health care we take for granted today.

[Old-Time-Lifter]

The story of Logan's Run started with the Eugenics practice of encouraging voluntary abortions.

Just sayin'.

[Marius_Ursus]

What a bunch of helpless little whiners we have become as a society. 200 years age, you'd be lucky if they had a little whiskey for you to drink before 5 guys held you down to cut off your gangrene infested leg with a rusty saw. Today, millions are crying like spoiled little toddlers because they might have to wait a little longer for treatment or pay some higher insurance premiums. Some family out in the plains of the old west watching their sole provider slowly dying from untreatable internal injuries would have loved to have even a fraction of the health care we take for granted today.

Those pioneers had a kind of liberty that few living today will ever know.

[Hikemike]

What a bunch of helpless little whiners we have become as a society. 200 years age, you'd be lucky if they had a little whiskey for you to drink before 5 guys held you down to cut off your gangrene infested leg with a rusty saw. Today, millions are crying like spoiled little toddlers because they might have to wait a little longer for treatment or pay some higher insurance premiums. Some family out in the plains of the old west watching their sole provider slowly dying from untreatable internal injuries would have loved to have even a fraction of the health care we take for granted today.

Gotta spread it around a bit...........

[Tyrbolift]

Gotta spread it around a bit...........

Sounds pretty socialist to me...

Why can't we just rep the same person a thousand times?

[K26]

Sounds pretty socialist to me...

Why can't we just rep the same person a thousand times?

Because that wouldn't be fair to those who, while less insightful, need rep points too. Someone once said' "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". It's about time America started in that direction.

[Marius_Ursus]

Because that wouldn't be fair to those who, while less insightful, need rep points too. Someone once said' "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". It's about time America started in that direction.

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not.