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    What's the difference between "total carbs" and "of which sugars"?

    Aren't all carbs turned into sugars eventually?
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    Originally Posted by The_Reaper View Post
    Aren't all carbs turned into sugars eventually?
    Complexity of the carb.

    Glycemic index.

    Insulin.

    something something.

    If it didnt matter, id add sugar to my shakes instead of oats.
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    Originally Posted by StrongFace View Post
    Complexity of the carb.

    Glycemic index.

    Insulin.

    something something.

    If it didnt matter, id add sugar to my shakes instead of oats.
    It doesn't. The only difference is micronutrients.
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    satiety is a HUGE issue for the normal person IMO


    but those of us on a set diet and possess will power it is not as big of an issue
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    Originally Posted by The_Reaper View Post
    Aren't all carbs turned into sugars eventually?
    Right, they do change into glucose.

    If you've ever done carb-up/refeed, there is certain carb/sugar that won't replenish muscle glycogen, instead the liver.

    Ignore this, read post#6 Fructose is found most of time in fruits, this sugar goes straight to liver. Ignore this, read post#6

    Sucrose on nutrition labels under carbs, half goes to liver & other to muscle glycogen.

    Dextrose (don't see often), goes to muscle glycogen 100%.

    Beneficial to regulate lepins & other hormone during long duration of dieting, also mental boost. Of course filling the muscle for intense power workout the next day.

    My view point of it carb refeeds currently.
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    Originally Posted by Vietgoboi View Post
    Right, they do change into glucose.

    If you've ever done carb-up/refeed, there is certain carb/sugar that won't replenish muscle glycogen, instead the liver.

    Fructose is found most of time in fruits, this sugar goes straight to liver.

    Sucrose on nutrition labels under carbs, half goes to liver & other to muscle glycogen.

    Dextrose (don't see often), goes to muscle glycogen 100%.

    Beneficial to regulate lepins & other hormone during long duration of dieting, also mental boost. Of course filling the muscle for intense power workout the next day.

    My view point of it carb refeeds currently.
    Fructose not being able to replenish muscle glycogen is a myth.

    http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...ract/81/4/1495
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    Fructose not being able to replenish muscle glycogen is a myth.

    http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...ract/81/4/1495
    Yay! Now I have a better reference to show for that fact.

    That is another myth people need to learn about. Fructose is merely an inferior source for glycogenesis, not an impossible one.
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    Just another reason to eat more good tasting fruits this summer
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    Originally Posted by rhizome View Post
    Fructose not being able to replenish muscle glycogen is a myth.

    http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...ract/81/4/1495
    Thanks, I change my post.

    It does replenish muscle glycogen, but not same potential as regular glucose.

    Fructose -> more goes to liver, some to muscle glycogen, seeing how the rating on the study showed. (correct me if I got the concept wrong).
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    Originally Posted by Vietgoboi View Post
    Thanks, I change my post.

    It does replenish muscle glycogen, but not same potential as regular glucose.

    Fructose -> more goes to liver, some to muscle glycogen, seeing how the rating on the study showed. (correct me if I got the concept wrong).
    Correct, for instance, on a carb up, heavy doses of fructose lead to poorer gylcogenesis vs. heavier glucose doses.
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