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    Health care passed...history is being made guys

    it passed...

    what you think?

    edit: btw for the idiots who keep saying the votes tommorow...thats for show. vote is already counted and tabulated. The president and the leaders of congress have been on tv for the past hour or longer saying healthcare reform is going to happen. Its over.
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    the vote is tomorrow dip****
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    Originally Posted by deathmessiah View Post
    the vote is tomorrow dip****
    vote tommorow is for show only....it's been passed

    do some research
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    Originally Posted by NJ187 View Post
    it passed...

    what you think?
    please aware the retards like me on how this will affect me

    i already have great healthcare and insurance btw
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    Originally Posted by nick1990 View Post
    please aware the retards like me on how this will affect me

    i already have great healthcare and insurance btw
    The legislation would ban the insurance industry from denying benefits or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. The Congressional Budget Office predicts the bill will reduce deficits by $130 billion over the next 10 years, an estimate that assumes lawmakers carry through on hundreds of billions of dollars in planned cuts to insurance companies and doctors, hospitals and others who treat Medicare patients.
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    Not sure why so many A Merry Cans are so scared about nationalised healthcare.


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    Originally Posted by Episoad View Post
    The legislation would ban the insurance industry from denying benefits or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. The Congressional Budget Office predicts the bill will reduce deficits by $130 billion over the next 10 years, an estimate that assumes lawmakers carry through on hundreds of billions of dollars in planned cuts to insurance companies and doctors, hospitals and others who treat Medicare patients.
    will my current insurance be affected in anyway?
    It is through the gov anyway btw (mom works for post office)

    How much will this raise taxes at every level?
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    Originally Posted by NJ187 View Post
    it passed...

    what you think?

    lol about bloody time, welcome to the the civilised world America.
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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    Not sure why so many A Merry Cans are so scared about nationalised healthcare.


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    Originally Posted by Large_Emu View Post
    Not sure why so many A Merry Cans are so scared about nationalised healthcare.


    IT'S NOT THAT BAD GUYS!!! WE ACTUALLY QUITE LIKE IT HERE IN THE UK!!

    STOP PANICING!!
    because you don't mind paying for other people's problems, americans do.
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    Originally Posted by nick1990 View Post
    please aware the retards like me on how this will affect me

    i already have great healthcare and insurance btw
    you're going to lose your insurance in the next couple years, your taxes will increase, your new insurance will be further controlled by the gov't and limit what you have covered. also, your grandparents will likely die sooner now. (srs)
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    Originally Posted by nick1990 View Post
    please aware the retards like me on how this will affect me

    i already have great healthcare and insurance btw
    the vote isnt til tommorow...heres a simple breakdown of what it'll do

    Eliminating caps: If you buy a policy, a health care company will not be able to place a lifetime -- or annual -- cap on how much they will cover. This is will be especially important for those diagnosed with serious illnesses, such as cancer, who face steep medical bills.

    Pre-existing conditions: The Senate bill includes $5 billion in immediate support to provide temporary coverage to uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions. The money would help you until the new health care exchanges in the Senate bill are put into effect in 2014.

    Children and pre-existing conditions: Another thing that's going to be very important, CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said, is that there will be no exclusion of children with pre-existing conditions.

    Dependent children: Your children will be covered until the age of 26.

    "Children who are over 21 and may not have a job that pays their health insurance can still be on your policy," Borger said. "That's very important to a lot of families."

    Small business tax credits: Those tax credits are aimed at helping small businesses buy health insurance for their employees. Tax credits of up to 50 percent of premiums will be available to firms that offer coverage, according to the Senate's plan.

    Preventive care: All new insurance plans, Obama said, will be required to offer free preventive care in order to "catch preventable illnesses and diseases on the front end."

    Appeals process: A new independent appeals process will be set up for those who feel that they were unfairly denied a claim by their insurance company.

    Help for seniors: If you fall into the Medicare Part D Drug Benefit coverage gap, dubbed the "donut hole," you will receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions.


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    shutup ******* stay out of our business
    I'm just saying it's not that bad and anyway your healthcare is fuked up as it is you might as well try it to see if things improve.

    Originally Posted by American Psycho View Post
    because you don't mind paying for other people's problems, americans do.
    errrr.... i don't think you quite understand how it works.
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    because you don't mind paying for other people's problems, americans do.
    ninja edit i ALMOST got u
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    Thumbs down

    I expect to see the stock market drop within the following weeks-months as a short-term consequence to this bullsh*t.

    Long-term, we're talking increased taxes and increased unemployment. Government is now going to have to tax hard-working Americans even more in order to ensure that people who do not even want to work/survive on their own can have a free-ride and get free amenities from the government.

    Corporations will see higher taxes (which were already going to be higher due to the need to reduce deficit) in order to fund this bullsh*t. On top of that, businesses will need to layoff employees to cut costs.





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    Originally Posted by nick1990 View Post
    will my current insurance be affected in anyway?
    It is through the gov anyway btw (mom works for post office)

    How much will this raise taxes at every level?
    Well I believe, under the new legislation, you will be able to stay on your parents health insurance policy until age 26. Which will save you some serious dough. Especially, since its the post office which has some of the best health benefits you can get.
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    Originally Posted by nick1990 View Post
    please aware the retards like me on how this will affect me

    i already have great healthcare and insurance btw
    Massive new taxes, throughout your adult life, to cover the massive new government spending this "reform" will trigger.
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    pretty sure it didnt,..doenst matter neway..there going to pass it if u like it or not
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    Originally Posted by American Psycho View Post
    because you don't mind paying for other people's problems, americans do.
    ss payments brah we been doing em for long time paying for old ppl so they can drive around in fast cars with no job. If it's so bad you need to be out on the streets fighting brah you sitting at your pc like a coward lol
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    USA spends more on healthcare per person than any other country but has the 35th best healthcare.

    It's time for a change.
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    Not sure why so many A Merry Cans are so scared about nationalised healthcare.
    Well, for one thing: This bill won't enact "nationalized health care". So, please don't comment on topics you don't understand, Mmmm-Kay?
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    Originally Posted by Teenytinyboo View Post
    lol about bloody time, welcome to the the civilised world America.
    You're not aware. This 2,000 + pages bill is carte blanche. Taxes will skyrocket to fund into the government. The government will then subsidize insurance companies. Insurance companies still profit since claims can still be denied (due to no tort reform). In fact, they might even profit more if taxes are hiked to reduce the deficit. Doctors who are specialists will see a salary decrease. PPV's will also decrease in sub-specialties like physical therapy/pharmacist/optometry.

    In other words, we still pay high prices either way, but in a different format. Except, now the government gets an even bigger share of the pie.

    This bill is not single payer. It's a scheme to make the government richer, the people poorer, and insurance companies will still bank.
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    Waiting on the public option.

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    Originally Posted by ScubaStevo View Post


    Nice red herring *******. I dont agree with the healthcare but your attempt to divert the argument is stupid.

    Oh yeah, the red herring failed also cuz it's wrong!







    Back to the topic, the bill sucks for my generation and our taxes
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