it passed...
what you think?
edit: btw for the idiots who keep saying the votes tommorow...thats for show. vote is already counted and tabulated. The president and the leaders of congress have been on tv for the past hour or longer saying healthcare reform is going to happen. Its over.
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Health care passed...history is being made guys
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The legislation would ban the insurance industry from denying benefits or charging higher premiums on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions. The Congressional Budget Office predicts the bill will reduce deficits by $130 billion over the next 10 years, an estimate that assumes lawmakers carry through on hundreds of billions of dollars in planned cuts to insurance companies and doctors, hospitals and others who treat Medicare patients.
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the vote isnt til tommorow...heres a simple breakdown of what it'll do
Eliminating caps: If you buy a policy, a health care company will not be able to place a lifetime -- or annual -- cap on how much they will cover. This is will be especially important for those diagnosed with serious illnesses, such as cancer, who face steep medical bills.
Pre-existing conditions: The Senate bill includes $5 billion in immediate support to provide temporary coverage to uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions. The money would help you until the new health care exchanges in the Senate bill are put into effect in 2014.
Children and pre-existing conditions: Another thing that's going to be very important, CNN Senior Political Analyst Gloria Borger said, is that there will be no exclusion of children with pre-existing conditions.
Dependent children: Your children will be covered until the age of 26.
"Children who are over 21 and may not have a job that pays their health insurance can still be on your policy," Borger said. "That's very important to a lot of families."
Small business tax credits: Those tax credits are aimed at helping small businesses buy health insurance for their employees. Tax credits of up to 50 percent of premiums will be available to firms that offer coverage, according to the Senate's plan.
Preventive care: All new insurance plans, Obama said, will be required to offer free preventive care in order to "catch preventable illnesses and diseases on the front end."
Appeals process: A new independent appeals process will be set up for those who feel that they were unfairly denied a claim by their insurance company.
Help for seniors: If you fall into the Medicare Part D Drug Benefit coverage gap, dubbed the "donut hole," you will receive $250 to help pay for prescriptions.
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I expect to see the stock market drop within the following weeks-months as a short-term consequence to this bullsh*t.
Long-term, we're talking increased taxes and increased unemployment. Government is now going to have to tax hard-working Americans even more in order to ensure that people who do not even want to work/survive on their own can have a free-ride and get free amenities from the government.
Corporations will see higher taxes (which were already going to be higher due to the need to reduce deficit) in order to fund this bullsh*t. On top of that, businesses will need to layoff employees to cut costs.
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pretty sure it didnt,..doenst matter neway..there going to pass it if u like it or not
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USA spends more on healthcare per person than any other country but has the 35th best healthcare.
It's time for a change.Last edited by Large_Emu; 03-20-2010 at 01:57 PM.
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You're not aware. This 2,000 + pages bill is carte blanche. Taxes will skyrocket to fund into the government. The government will then subsidize insurance companies. Insurance companies still profit since claims can still be denied (due to no tort reform). In fact, they might even profit more if taxes are hiked to reduce the deficit. Doctors who are specialists will see a salary decrease. PPV's will also decrease in sub-specialties like physical therapy/pharmacist/optometry.
In other words, we still pay high prices either way, but in a different format. Except, now the government gets an even bigger share of the pie.
This bill is not single payer. It's a scheme to make the government richer, the people poorer, and insurance companies will still bank."Knowing is not enough, one must apply" ~ Bruce Lee
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