Hey all.. I haven't been on here in a while, but as we all know it's getting to be cutting season and i'm just wondering since I tend to be a little sensitive to caffeine if there is one out there that doesn't cause a lot of the jitters people get with them?
Other question would be... why does the caffeine in a fat burner help so much? Why not just drink some diet soda or something that has caffeine a few times a day? Not to sound dumb but it seems like the majority of the fat burners out there have caffeine as the main ingredient.
Also curious if anyone out there has ever tried a stimulant fat burner along with a stimulant free one or just added CLA and Sesamin to it? If so, what were your results?
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03-17-2010, 10:53 PM #1Registered User
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Thermogenic that doesn't cause jitters?
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03-18-2010, 09:29 AM #2Registered User
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any insight here? I have done the typical CLA, Fish oil, Sesamin stack 2, 2, 1 respectively 3 times daily and while I think it helped, I considered throwing a thermo in there somewhere. I've heard the San Tight is a slow release capsule, would that maybe help a bit?Originally Posted by Methodical4u
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03-18-2010, 10:04 AM #3THE OG
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The caffeine in fat burners are at a much higher dosage (200mg+) than what you will find in say diet soda. Caffeine blunts hunger and appetite. Thats why most fat burners have it.
You dont need these fat burners. Total waste of money - IMO. Take in less cals than you burn, do cardio, resistance training, and be consistent with your diet. Takes patience and dedication.BRAINS & GAINS
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03-18-2010, 10:06 AM #4Registered User
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well yeah I realize that the training and diet is where it's mostly at, which i'm already doing. I'm just interested in a little extra help... just to take it off a little bit faster you know?Originally Posted by PBateman2
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03-18-2010, 10:13 AM #5Registered User
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It doesn't just go away In a week or 2 it takes time and dedication. You have to fully understand that some weeks you will lose and some week you won't. Its the ups and downs. As for fat burners. They're not needed only thing I've ever notived them to help is increased enegry b4 I went to the gym. I now stick to a ec stack 4 weeks on 2 weeks off cost me 17. Bux compared to 50-60 for a fat burner that truly doesn't burn fat.Originally Posted by Methodical4u
You start with an intention, but you must constantly remind yourself to keep applying enough focus to achieve that outcome. Follow through. When you've given enough attention to the matter, you"ll have the result...
Feb1 to may1 challenge
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03-18-2010, 10:15 AM #6THE OG
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Ive never used any fat burners so I cant comment. I would just increase my training intensity. If that didnt work then drop calories as well.Originally Posted by Methodical4u
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03-18-2010, 08:17 PM #7Registered User
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lol guys I appreciate the advice, but i've already previously lost 50 lbs so I know what the cardio and calorie deficit is for. I am simply asking if those out there know of a fat burner that is effective and if they have used it with a CLA, Sesamin, Fish oil stack and if so what the results are for. You can say fat burners don't help, but CLA has been proven to lower bodyfat without changing diet at all over the course of a years time in tests. I am sure other fat burners have had the same type of results so please only post if you have experience with my actual question and not lessons in losing fat. I respect you all, but if you haven't used them you don't know what you are talking about.
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03-18-2010, 08:24 PM #8Registered User
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im actually using Scorch stacked with Vaporize (which is sesamin and fish oil)Originally Posted by Methodical4u
I was a little worried on whether it would give me jitters or not, but it didnt. Just gave me nice clean energy.
As far as results I have no idea, I just started using this stack about 4 days ago.
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03-18-2010, 08:47 PM #9Registered User
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do me a favor and PM me when you start to see results one way or the other... or just post it here.Originally Posted by Lezgetitdone
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03-18-2010, 09:04 PM #10Registered User
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Oxy elite pro is good. No jitters for me
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03-18-2010, 09:44 PM #11Great hair, decent ass
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I have had good success with two products from 1st Phorm:
1-Db and Thyro-DRIVE.
I bought them together as the company sells them this way. The 1-Db does have stims in it, but I have not had the jitters at all. The thyro-drive works with your thyroid and both produce a thermogenic effect. Check em out. www.1stphorm.com"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
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03-18-2010, 10:06 PM #12Registered User
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what sort of price did you pay on these?Originally Posted by otterakl
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