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    Tren/Epi stack suggestions please.

    Im going to throw out the 1-andro rx Ive been using, maybe take it in small doses with Tren and Epi to help with the estrogen issues tren may cause.

    Anyways can I get a suggestion on how to stack Tren and Epi for maximum results, Im taking a cycle support also and Im a decent sized guy if that matters, I also have a heart rate and blood pressure monitor I keep with me because im a nerd and like to keep track of how certain supplements actually affect me.

    Let me timing and dosages that are suggested, Thanks.
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    Well when are u working out?

    I am going to guess u plan on taking it 30 epi 90 tren right?
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    Originally Posted by BlackStallion10 View Post
    Well when are u working out?

    I am going to guess u plan on taking it 30 epi 90 tren right?
    Im thinking about that yes. I work out in the afternoon at around 4pm.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    Im thinking about that yes. I work out in the afternoon at around 4pm.
    btw just to add, I have A LOT of tren, so I could dose more without a problem... so if the dosing is made 90mg a day because thats what a normal bottle of tren comes as, that isnt an issue with me. I know some people have dosed double this amount.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    btw just to add, I have A LOT of tren, so I could dose more without a problem... so if the dosing is made 90mg a day because thats what a normal bottle of tren comes as, that isnt an issue with me. I know some people have dosed double this amount.
    It is the most common dosing. I actually like the idea of upping the Epi but I love Epi. I think 90 should be good bc that can be some tricky stuff. The sides are very fickle with it. Take some Vitex and 1-carboxy to deal with prolactin issues.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    Im thinking about that yes. I work out in the afternoon at around 4pm.
    Id say 1 of each upon waking.

    1 epi 1 hour before lifting.

    2 tren 1 hour before lifting.

    the rest of ur epi post workout.
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    Originally Posted by BlackStallion10 View Post
    It is the most common dosing. I actually like the idea of upping the Epi but I love Epi. I think 90 should be good bc that can be some tricky stuff. The sides are very fickle with it. Take some Vitex and 1-carboxy to deal with prolactin issues.
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    I believe the Saw Palmetto is what helps with the Prolactin issue. That is two servings and I take one serving in the AM and one in the PM.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    Do you think Anabolic Innovations - Cycle Support will be ok?

    Red Yeast Rice 1200 mg
    Silymarin (Milk Thistle Extract) 1000 mg
    NAC 1200 mg
    Hawthorn Berry 1000 mg
    Saw Palmetto 300 mg
    Policosonol 20 mg
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    Idebenone 100 mg

    I believe the Saw Palmetto is what helps with the Prolactin issue. That is two servings and I take one serving in the AM and one in the PM.
    This is totally sufficient support for tren and epi.
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    THanks for the information so far guys, I appreciate as much information as possible to help maximize my results. Im giving reps to anyone who helps me
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    Do you think Anabolic Innovations - Cycle Support will be ok?

    Red Yeast Rice 1200 mg
    Silymarin (Milk Thistle Extract) 1000 mg
    NAC 1200 mg
    Hawthorn Berry 1000 mg
    Saw Palmetto 300 mg
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    Nettle Root 250 mg
    Idebenone 100 mg

    I believe the Saw Palmetto is what helps with the Prolactin issue. That is two servings and I take one serving in the AM and one in the PM.
    LOL thank for that. Saw Palmetto is most commonly used for proSTATE health. Did a quick search and SP can cause proLACTIN stimulation.

    I am taking AI's Cycle Support now so I am by no means knocking it. Just need to get some support supps for prolactin while taking tren.
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    Originally Posted by BlackStallion10 View Post
    LOL thank for that. Saw Palmetto is most commonly used for proSTATE health. Did a quick search and SP can cause proLACTIN stimulation.

    I am taking AI's Cycle Support now so I am by no means knocking it. Just need to get some support supps for prolactin while taking tren.
    The support of Prolactin from Saw Palmetto happens only if you're a woman.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    The support of Prolactin from Saw Palmetto happens only if you're a woman.
    Rather be safe than sorry when it comes to prolactin gyno and pick up some Vitex that cost like $7 for a bottle TOPS.
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    Originally Posted by BlackStallion10 View Post
    Rather be safe than sorry when it comes to prolactin gyno and pick up some Vitex that cost like $7 for a bottle TOPS.
    Cool, I can just go to the vitaminshop I guess?
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    Im going to throw out the 1-andro rx Ive been using, maybe take it in small doses with Tren and Epi to help with the estrogen issues tren may cause.

    Anyways can I get a suggestion on how to stack Tren and Epi for maximum results, Im taking a cycle support also and Im a decent sized guy if that matters, I also have a heart rate and blood pressure monitor I keep with me because im a nerd and like to keep track of how certain supplements actually affect me.

    Let me timing and dosages that are suggested, Thanks.
    Have you taken either compound before? Can't really help you till I know your cycle history.

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    Do you think Anabolic Innovations - Cycle Support will be ok?

    Red Yeast Rice 1200 mg
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    NAC 1200 mg
    Hawthorn Berry 1000 mg
    Saw Palmetto 300 mg
    Policosonol 20 mg
    Celery Seed Extract 150 mg
    Nettle Root 250 mg
    Idebenone 100 mg

    I believe the Saw Palmetto is what helps with the Prolactin issue. That is two servings and I take one serving in the AM and one in the PM.
    All cycle supports are underdosed in my eyes. Tren is the harshest non-methylated ph there is and epi is methylated. This is a very strong stack. Not as strong as say sd/tren, but I'm a firm believer in just buying the individual components in cycle assists/supports and dosing them more adequately for each cycle's needs.

    Originally Posted by eyecntreed View Post
    This is totally sufficient support for tren and epi.
    I totally disagree, respectfully.
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    Originally Posted by BlackStallion10 View Post
    Rather be safe than sorry when it comes to prolactin gyno and pick up some Vitex that cost like $7 for a bottle TOPS.
    or p-5-p
    I got big by re-racking your weights....

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    Originally Posted by WyldByll View Post
    or p-5-p
    I just picked up some Vitex.

    also so weight gainer just because I need to make sure I get in a good amount of calories and protein per day. I have meal replacements and whey powders also.
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    Originally Posted by ElbowBiter View Post
    I just picked up some Vitex.

    also so weight gainer just because I need to make sure I get in a good amount of calories and protein per day. I have meal replacements and whey powders also.
    Yeah, but what's your cycle history like?

    If you've never done either compound, I would just do the tren at 90/90/90/90. It's pretty harsh on your body and endocrine system. It's best to see how your body reacts to a compound on it's own before stacking, especially w/ tren or sd.

    Cycle assists/supports are barely strong enough for a weak epi cycle let alone tren and def not for the two stacked.

    Here's an even better question: What's your pct look like?
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    Ya tren is one of tricker PH/DS to figure out and it seems like everyone can react different to it.

    Ya lets see some past and a PCT plan man.
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