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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    It's not who I've heard of, it's who I know.
    YOU are the one that brought up who you have or have not heard of as well as what you have or have not heard of buddy.

    The lesson here: In the future you should avoid telling people not to do something simply because you havn't heard of it.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    YOU are the one that brought up who you have or have not heard of as well as what you have or have not heard of buddy.

    The lesson here: In the future you should avoid telling people not to do something simply because you havn't heard of it.
    So if someone you have heard of but never personally met told you to jump of bridges to improve your squats....would you do it?
    Go Big or Go Home!
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    So if someone you have heard of but never personally met told you to jump of bridges to improve your squats....would you do it?

    You obviously lack sufficient mental capacity.

    Sorry to bother you.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You obviously lack sufficient mental capacity.

    Sorry to bother you.
    No thanks for bothering me I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.

    There are no shortcuts. There is just consistency, determination and goals that will get you to where you want to be.

    Don' think that milk is your "scrawnyness" problem.
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    No thanks for bothering me I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.

    There are no shortcuts. There is just consistency, determination and goals that will get you to where you want to be.

    Don' think that milk is your "scrawnyness" problem.
    Did you bother to think before you type?

    GOMAD is not a magical answer to his problem. It's a method of increasing weight gains by increasing the amount of calories you intake through the day by drinking a gallon of milk each day. Some of us enjoy having options other than food to achieve 4000 calorie days. Milk is a cheap and very convenient source of calories and protein.
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    No thanks for bothering me I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.

    There are no shortcuts. There is just consistency, determination and goals that will get you to where you want to be.

    Don' think that milk is your "scrawnyness" problem.
    Right then.

    You know NOTHING about Rip, and NOTHING about the effects about drinking a gallon of milk a day. Why say that you should not do it?
    Do your reading before you say "Do not do it". However I do believe that "consistency, determination and goals" are very important.

    Sliurius (and brooks928) have a read:
    GOMAD:
    http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-sq...n-gain-weight/
    Novice Effect:
    http://startingstrength.com/articles...t_rippetoe.pdf
    Starting Strength:
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

    Your'll be bigger and stronger than your'll ever be in your life.
    Enjoy
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.


    Consuming more calories to gain weight is simple stupidity?

    ROFL
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    Originally Posted by scottaii View Post
    Right then.

    You know NOTHING about Rip, and NOTHING about the effects about drinking a gallon of milk a day. Why say that you should not do it?
    Do your reading before you say "Do not do it". However I do believe that "consistency, determination and goals" are very important.

    Sliurius (and brooks928) have a read:
    GOMAD:
    http://stronglifts.com/gomad-milk-sq...n-gain-weight/
    Novice Effect:
    http://startingstrength.com/articles...t_rippetoe.pdf
    Starting Strength:
    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

    Your'll be bigger and stronger than your'll ever be in your life.
    Enjoy
    Marketing rep to sell more books????

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=113
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    Marketing rep to sell more books????

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=113

    No bodybuilder I know of drinks milk...much better sources of protein out there....without the fat, or the all too often lactose intolerence that accompanies it.

    Adults arent made to drink it...babies are.


    Cut the milk, you'll cut the fat....
    1 gallon whole milk contains 2400kcal, 200g carbs, 120g fat, 120g protein and lots of vitamins & minerals for a relative low price.

    This is a skinny 18 year old kid NOT a bodybuilder, he's trying to gain mass.
    This is a sure way to make sure he gets the cals he needs, most of the protein he needs, and a load of fat to help him gain some mass.

    If he were a bodybuilder, then this obviously wouldn't be suitable.

    Edit:
    Why would it be a marketing rep, its one of many programs out there.
    Its just one that I've had experience with and know its working.

    Edit edit: although reading over it, it does look like im trying to sell something hahah
    Its just that i really think it works
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    Never heard of him.
    That's because you lack knowledge and experience. It's hilarious when people talk about things they don't know about.
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    So if someone you have heard of but never personally met told you to jump of bridges to improve your squats....would you do it?
    If that person came back with better squats, wrote a book about it, and hundreds if not thousands of people had done the same thing with awesome results... Absolutely.
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    No thanks for bothering me I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.

    There are no shortcuts. There is just consistency, determination and goals that will get you to where you want to be.

    Don' think that milk is your "scrawnyness" problem.
    Ahhhhh haha thanks for that... please post again!
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    drink more milk
    Fixed.

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    With regard to milk (and dairy products in general): if you're having GI issues consuming X amount of dairy products per day and wish to increase your intake, Lactaid caplets are a viable solution. At 34, I can consume no more than two 12-ounce glasses of milk per day. Any more than that and I'll be squatting on the porcelain throne every 30 minutes. With Lactaid, I can down as much milk and eat all the dairy products I wish to consume without worries.
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    Originally Posted by nkh View Post
    Fixed.

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    Hey, at least you're trying to help people. However, going up against Mark Rippetoe will only put you further into the red.
    Haha nice
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    Originally Posted by Sliurius View Post
    What do you think about that?

    Morning: 3 eggs,cup of tea, sandwiches with salmon (sausage)
    Dinner: Dumplings stuffed with meat, porridge
    After work out: ~2 apples, pasta
    Evening: Fish with potatoes

    P.S. what kind of gainer would be better to me?
    you eat like a bird
    wtf
    eat 6+ times per day

    or at least double your portions

    i have gone from eating 8 times to 4 but i eat much more at each meal
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    Originally Posted by Sarevok459 View Post
    Curls, do curls all day.

    No really, curls.



















































    Try eating some ****ing food.
    I lol'd
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    Originally Posted by brooks928 View Post
    No thanks for bothering me I appreciated the simple stupidity people can believe that there is something, like milk, that can solve all your problems and get you to pack on the pounds.

    There are no shortcuts. There is just consistency, determination and goals that will get you to where you want to be.

    Don' think that milk is your "scrawnyness" problem.
    Rippetoe..Jim Wendler...Arnold...

    try drinking a gallon of milk a day....see what kind of results you get....probably better than what you are getting now
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    Wow thanks. i didn't noticed that my biceps became bigger thanks for help. The milk works!!! THANKS AGAIN.
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    Originally Posted by Sarevok459 View Post
    Try eating some ****ing food.
    eating food will not affect a true ecto, without more. the "more" is a solid workout routine. then, the ecto's body will have a reason to gain some weight, in the form of lean muscle.

    from one ecto to another, (in 7 years i've gone from 125 to 175), lift hard and eat as much as you can.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You obviously lack sufficient mental capacity.

    Sorry to bother you.
    Too funny, ahh. My day just got better, thank you.
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    Originally Posted by boathead View Post
    eating food will not affect a true ecto, without more. the "more" is a solid workout routine. then, the ecto's body will have a reason to gain some weight, in the form of lean muscle.

    from one ecto to another, (in 7 years i've gone from 125 to 175), lift hard and eat as much as you can.
    I had a pretty similar transformation in my college years.

    Though I will say if he started eating a 5000 calorie diet he would definitely gain weight regardless of whether he works out or not. Obviously he wants to gain muscle weight though not fat weight so he's going to work out
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    use fitday.com to track your calories make sure u get alot of protien if u wanna clean bulk and for simply bulking ive been eating alot of peanut butter and ancient grain bread.
    each sandwich is 52g of carbs, 22g of protein, and 25g of fat (good Fat)

    add 2-3 sandwiches a day to you diet and your good to go.
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    I think you should forget about tracking and all that OCD BS. I suffer from it, and its only holding me back. Here is some advice from someone who couldnt gain a pound in a month to someone who got 7 in under a month, and could probably put one more.

    Also forget the GOMAD if you don't like it, some people can't stomach the milk. Also forget the low fat **** - it will hold you back. Get plenty of fats in, enough protein and moderate carbs.
    If you don't go the tracking route, get equal grams fats, proteins and carbs. Go for 22calsxbodyweight if you are lean. If you are hungry, eat. If you are not hungry, eat. If you feel sick, eat. If you feel like throwing up, stop eating. Start eating again in 3 hours.

    However if you do decide to go the tracking, here is what helped me the most recently is this -
    CARBS
    2g carbs per lb bodyweight (If you do low volume, like SS, start off with less, if you feel always tired, use more, carbs = energy).

    Protein
    1-1.5 grams per lb bodyweight. I think 1.5 is more than enough and most people who say they get more than this are overestimating or do it for only one day, and slack the next, or are extremely active. It is also activity dependent. I was getting 250 grams when I was off work (running, walking, gym, etc), then when I came back, it made me sick. Try it, you will see.

    Fats
    This is coming from a person who got his fat intake close to 0 - GET YOUR FATS. Without them, you won't grow, period. If are like me, switching from now fats to, well some fats, expect to lose body fat and gain muscle. I go for about 0.9-1g per lb bodymass. Sources? Best and cheapest ones are eggs (I eat about 20 in a week, and I'm still alive, so I woudnt worry about it), next ones I'd recommend nuts - peanuts, coconuts are good. Last but not least - CHEESE =) Yum. This is the alternative to GOMAD, except goes a lot easier on the stomach.

    Don't eat too much fats in the evening - you wont sleep. If your appetite dies (high fat will do that), reduce fats, increase carbs a bit, reduce fats - that will keep you hungry =)


    Good luck.

    Cheers,

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    In defense of the guy saying NOT to drink milk... he looks to be in better shape than those of you saying it's a good idea...
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    Originally Posted by supern0va View Post
    In defense of the guy saying NOT to drink milk... he looks to be in better shape than those of you saying it's a good idea...
    I didn't want to come outright and say that but I am glad someone has a brain in their head that sees where I am coming from.

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    In defense of the guy saying NOT to drink milk... he looks to be in better shape than those of you saying it's a good idea...
    So that means drinking milk is "just plain dumb." After all, he's "never heard of that," so it can't be right.

    This argument wouldn't pass a grade 9 critical thinking stink test.
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    Originally Posted by supern0va View Post
    In defense of the guy saying NOT to drink milk... he looks to be in better shape than those of you saying it's a good idea...
    So that's all it takes to have your internet opinion outweigh legendary strength coaches these days? Look good posing for a camera? Interesting.
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    So that means drinking milk is "just plain dumb." After all, he's "never heard of that," so it can't be right.

    This argument wouldn't pass a grade 9 critical thinking stink test.
    I said drinking a gallon of milk a day would be plain dumb, not drinking milk is plain dumb. I personally drink 2 glasses of milk a day.

    I mean it's up to you whether you would like to drink a gallon of milk a day. Just keep in mind that drinking too much on a consistent basis daily, promotes cancer growth.

    So take your pick....a gallon of milk or just simply eat more.
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    Just keep in mind that drinking too much [milk] on a consistent basis daily, promotes cancer growth.

    Oh really.
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